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14. September 2006 @ 09:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes I'm in the process of doing it right now, i figured if I'm going that nice of a set i might as well get exactly what i want.

update , i called Best Buy and theres no problem at all other than thay have to order the 60" so it will be a few days .it ended up being 3099.00 about 800.00 dollars more than the 50" i hope its worth it

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14. September 2006 @ 15:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
just came back from best buy and the 55" was less than the 50" at $2299, $100 less than the 50".
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wow the 55" was 2850.00 a couple weeks ago. man i can't wait to see that 60" in my living room yeahhh!!!!!!!!!!!
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eatsushi , i finally got the 60" a couple days ago and WOW!!! this baby is great it drawfs the 50" I'm very happy i exchanged it for the 60". next is to update my surround sound system.

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10-12 feet is fine for a 60" 1080p set. When your watching HD matirial of course. On a 50" 1080p set you want to be about 5-7 feet away to see all the extra detial. Any further back and you might as well buy a 720p set.

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Ced , heres the recomened veiwing distance for the SXRDs

50" 6.6 feet
55" 6.8 feet
60" 7.0 feet

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Where did you get your numbers? I find that giving a range is better than an exact number because the source isn't always 1080i/p. Watching a 480i source on a 60" tv sucks at 7 ft. while HD (720 or 1080) looks fine.

Using this calculator I get these numbers

Viewing Distance Calculator:
http://www.myhometheater.homestead.com/v...calculator.html

60" watching 1080i/p: 7.8 ft. max.

60" watching NTSC: 20.9 ft. max.

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50" watching 1080i/p: 6.5 ft. max.

50" watching NTSC: 17.4


I have found myself talking about resoltion vs distance alot with my customers this week. Marketing has got everyone looking for a 1080p set. There is just no reason to invest in a 1080p 50" if your sitting 15 feet away. You will only see mabye 720 lines if not less.

Ced

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Ced those numbers are out of the Sony manual
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Cool. Do you get my point or not? I'm not saying Sony is wrong I'm just saying thats only one number. There are different specifications that have different requirements and opinions on what distance will give a person the best viewing experience (i.e. THX). Some specifications are strict (i.e. SMPTE) and stick to what the human eye's threshold is while other specifications believe people want to be fully immersed.

Even on the awsome SXRD sets 480i/p doesn't look great from the same sitting position as 1080i/p. 480i/p can look good on a big screen though if your far enough away as to not see the lack in detail. Thats if the source is digital anyway.

What none of those numbers examine is how much scalling/up-converting impacts the viewing distance with non-HD matirial.

Ced

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on one of my calibration discs it gave me a good judgment of distance when watching SD sources. Basically the distance you should sit when watching SD is 3x the diagonal of your TV so for the 50A2000 that would be 150" or 12.5 feet. Of course with HD sources you can sit much closer.
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Ced, Yes i understand, your numbers are more on the money than Sony being your breaking down the 780 vs 1080 res. i am going to invest in a Upconvert DVD player right away plus a new receiver so i can take advantage of the HDMI output .any brands you recommend? the samsung looks good i not going with HD-DVD just yet. and when do you work Ced
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27. September 2006 @ 06:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@aabbccdd: Congrats on your new display.

"The emergence of a single, high-definition format is cause for consumers, as well as the entire entertainment industry, to celebrate."
-Craig Kornblau, president of Universal Home Entertainment Feb 19, 2008
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Thank You !! I love it!!!
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Upconvert DVD player: One of the Oppo models
http://www.oppodigital.com/

Receiver: Yamaha HTR-6090BL (or better)
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/produ...65&CTID=5000400

Also don't forget to buy a screen cleaner that doesn't contain any alcohol or ammonia like this product...
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?...d=1069297113224

Ced

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Ced thanks for the info . i was going with the Yamaha or Denon anyway . this Denon looks pretty good also

http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3255.asp

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From looking at the two I think that the Denon is the better because it is THX Ultra 2 certified although the Yamaha supports HDMI 1.2a while the Denon only supports 1.1. The only difference is SACD support via HDMI for the Yamaha (the Denon uses its Denon link to pass SACD digitally).

Ced

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great thanks for the info. probably going to get it within the next month or so plus the new dvd player
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Hey guys have been reading this post & it seems this is the one I need to read.

I had a Hitachi 51 in. rear projecton HD Ready TV that just went out on me.( had it for 3 years) I purchased it at Circuit City, & luckily purchased their Advantage Protection Plan.

I waited for 2 months to get my set repaired w/ no luck. They waited for the parts to come in from Hitachi. No luck on getting the parts in so, CC gave me back (in store credit)every single penny that I paid for it,3 years ago. Originally paid $2160 for it.

So I've been also my eye on the Sony KDS50A200. Right now CC has on sale for $2199. I have to get it @ CC of course, I saw earlier that someone said they saw the 55 in. for less or almost as much as the
50 ?
I will be viewing my TV from about 10-12 feet away.

I was trying to find out how, or where I could find the lowest price for the 55in. I know CC has a price match guarantee, but I wonder if thats just for retail stores, or will they match online stores as well ?

Have been looking at this TV for about a week now, in the store. Really like it but, the Standard definition(analog)signal looks like crap on it. I do receive HD channels(via Cable) & also do have an upconversion DVD player
( the OPPO OPDV971H, has been a great DVD Player )It has DVI output only, but I do have a DVI to HDMI adapter. Will that work, still upconvert ? because my current TV only has 1 DVI input & I'm using that currently w/ my HD box.

Would like to get some major input, from everyone here as soon as I can. I'm planning to make this purchase by this weekend, if not for sure by next weekend.

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dabig25, that set has 2 HDMI inputs so you should be ok

i got the 50 inch and exchanged it for the 60 inch and wow the 60 drawfs the 50 inch. Best Buy carries the Sony SXRD line also so check there for a price match. i think the guy that posted that price on the 55" didn't have the correct info i have never seen it that cheap. i know for sure CC can order you either model if they don't have it the 50" 55" or 60" go with the biggest set you can its worth the extra dollars. and the viewing distance isn't a problem here is what Sony recommends

50" 6.6 feet
55" 6.8 feet
60" 7.0 feet


SO go for the 60 inch if you can swing it i got mine for 3099.00 at Best Buy and CC will match that if that what BB is selling it for when your buying, theses are the best sets for the money on the market IMHO !! i don't think they can price match with online retailers

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aabbccdd

I just went to C.C & looked again at the Sony KDS50A2000 LCD(50 inch), on sale for $2199.

& also saw the Samsung HLS5687W DLP (56 inch )on sale for $2079.

I liked the picture quality on the Samsung better. The picture looked better even viewing at an angle.

I'm starting to lean toward the Samsung. They both are 1080p & both have 2 HDMI inputs.

I am a big Sony fan, don't get me wrong. But it seems like you get more w/ the Samsung @ a lesser price. The Samsung also accepts 1080p.

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amazon.com has it for $2350 including shipping but of course no 30 day return policy. It was me who saw the 55" at $2250 at a Fry's and BestBuy when I was shopping for the 50" and believe me it was real and that price at both stores (this was like a month ago). I asked the guy and they said it was normal in the area if everyone else was selling at the price. I honestly couldn't believe they had it next to a 50" which was $150 more.

I ended up returning my 50A2000 although it was great, just too big.
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VJbob

So what did you get instead ?

I have to purchase it @ CC, because I have a $2160 store credit.

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@VJbob

Are you sure it wasn't the KDF model instead of the KDS Sony 55in. model that you saw that cheap ?

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no trust me it was the SXRD A2000 but its a moot point since the sale is no longer offered.

I ended up going LCD and am pretty happy.
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Am planning on going w/ LCD as well.

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