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black and white games!?
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raigen777
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5. July 2006 @ 11:36 |
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I have a PAL version of tomb raider legends and I want to know why it is displaying in 100% black and white.
Any clue why and how do i fix this. I am using magic keys and swapmagic.
slim american ps2
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sorry I see a thread on it now. I guess i will try to figure it out
Jamaal10 sensei! I did it! (he did the lee) This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 5. July 2006 @ 11:39
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5. July 2006 @ 12:07 |
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PAL and NTSC (american) consoles do that... you can force the video mode to be NTSC in swap magic, and then it should be fine, otherwise you need to patch the game from PAL to NTSC
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raigen777
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5. July 2006 @ 12:23 |
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wow how moronic of me. three times as sorry for asking such sillyness
thanks
Jamaal10 sensei! I did it! (he did the lee)
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5. July 2006 @ 13:25 |
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Umm - shouldn't that be setting the video mode to PAL dan? the console would already be set to normal/NTSC if an american model.
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5. July 2006 @ 13:27 |
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I thought you force the video mode of the game to be NTSC so it works on a NTSC TV? Can't remember exactly which way it is... haven't used swap magic for a while... but it's one of those two :)
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mobywalt
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5. July 2006 @ 13:47 |
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what about if you ps2 is chipped and not using swap magic
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5. July 2006 @ 15:36 |
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you can patch the game or use a TV that supports both NTSC/PAL
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raigen777
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5. July 2006 @ 19:44 |
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no you set it to the american side. NTSC
Thats how i did it anyway
Jamaal10 sensei! I did it! (he did the lee)
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5. July 2006 @ 19:47 |
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hmm ok well the point is you got it right I guess :)
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6. July 2006 @ 00:22 |
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ill contribute something so some others can find it useful.
ive noticed most PAL games released from less than 2 months ago have an option (after the ps2 white logo / black screen) there are 3 screen options before you play.
1. 50 < select this if you have PAL only tv.
2. 60 < select this for all tv with NTSC or multisystems.
3. 60 Progressive < this is for all those lucky people using Progressive scan tv/lcd systems. This Is the BEST of the three. component cable?
as for games that dont have this, forcing the game itself means you'll have to do another burn of the same disc and changing the value on the
example.
d:/SYSTEM.INF <<<edit with notepad
>BOOT2 = cdrom0:\SLPS_250.26;1
>VER = 1.00
>VMODE = NTSC <<<make this NTSC
>HDDUNITPOWER = NICHDD <<<this will not appear on games without HD support
then rebuild the images then burn. downside is that you'll a distorted pan image where the lower part of the game will not be displayed *_*
there are many ways but i didnt bother coz i play on my pc monitor via geforce vivo and it its "crap" but supports all regions. im too lazy to buy a comp/svid/ to vga converter ^_^.
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6. July 2006 @ 00:55 |
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You guys may be right about the settings, I haven't used them on mine very much at all because most of my games are PAL on a PAL console.. but the few times that I have had an NTSC game I've had to set it to video mode NTSC and it worked.
It doesn't make sense that if you've already got it in "normal" (which is NTSC mode on an NTSC console) that you would change it to NTSC (no change) to play a PAL game. Anyway, I'm not gonna argue about it, it just doesn't make sense.
That said, i'm glad you got it working... basically if one video mode doesn't work try the other if you're not sure of the game's video settings.. and if it still doesn't work then you'll have to patch it I guess.
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6. July 2006 @ 00:59 |
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Quote:
It doesn't make sense that if you've already got it in "normal" (which is NTSC mode on an NTSC console) that you would change it to NTSC (no change) to play a PAL game. Anyway, I'm not gonna argue about it, it just doesn't make sense.
That said, i'm glad you got it working... basically if one video mode doesn't work try the other if you're not sure of the game's video settings.. and if it still doesn't work then you'll have to patch it I guess.
Hey paddymail I'm not trying to start an argument with you here, but I think it's like this...:
You have a NTSC console, the game is PAL, so you set the video mode of the game (PAL) to NTSC to match with the console? I think what you are thinking is that you are trying to change the video mode of the console instead of the game?
... actually, I'm just confusing myself (and everyone else reading this) so I'll just leave it at that, what you said is right though, if one doesn't work try another :)
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6. July 2006 @ 01:31 |
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Yeah, I know what you mean dan.. it depends on what you're setting the video mode on.. i'm not arguing with you here, more that I'm arguing the theory of it.
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ou have a NTSC console, the game is PAL, so you set the video mode of the game (PAL) to NTSC to match with the console
If that was the case, all you'd have to do is leave the video mode in NTSC all the time, no matter where the game came from, see what I mean? what'd be the point in having a PAL mode on an NTSC swap magic as you'd never have a reason to use it?
cos what you're saying is.
NTSC mode will load PAL games.
NTSC mode will load NTSC games(obviously)
so when would you use the PAL video mode?
[edit] unless swap magic just made one program for both regions and that's why it has both video modes..
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 6. July 2006 @ 01:35
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6. July 2006 @ 01:34 |
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A couple of guesses:
1) You want to use NTSC console with PAL tv, so you force the NTSC games to be PAL (as opposed to forcing PAL games to NTSC)
2) The program is generic for both NTSC/PAL version of swap magic, so they don't need to reprogram it
Again, just my guesses :)
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