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problem with dvd decrypter
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LoNgOnG
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16. July 2006 @ 11:26 |
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ive been using DVD Decrypter for a while and its work al this time but this past month when i have been burning games the same way i do they havent been working with any games i do. can someone show me how to get this to work agian or show me a different program to see if it works?
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16. July 2006 @ 12:34 |
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ive been using DVD Decrypter for a while and its work al this time but this past month when i have been burning games the same way i do they havent been working with any games i do
you are not giving too much information here... what doesn't work, DVD Decrypter, your burner, the PS2?
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16. July 2006 @ 13:53 |
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well, you obviously dont know what isnt working right. or else you wouldnt be asking for help. but you should explain how the backups arent working, what mod you are using, and any recent changes to your pc setup that might have contributed to the problem.
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LoNgOnG
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16. July 2006 @ 16:28 |
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all the games that i use DVD Decrypter on now has very slow loading times then it freezes and ive been using the same DVD+R i used to use nothing has changed
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16. July 2006 @ 16:37 |
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do u mean slow loadin times wen loadin a game, if so what make discs are they cos if there cheap media they will of been slowly killing ur laser which might start causin slow loadin times
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LoNgOnG
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16. July 2006 @ 20:00 |
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im using memorex DVD+R x16
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16. July 2006 @ 20:03 |
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that'll be one of the problems, that's not good media. have a look in the sticky for what to use
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16. July 2006 @ 20:57 |
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And I bet he's burning the games too slow. Burn at half the rated media speed to obtain best results.
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17. July 2006 @ 03:41 |
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Get rid of the Memorex for a few good reasons.
1. they are the worst discs on th planet.
2. Even if they work the dye will wear out and they will stop working
3. The cheap dye over time will also wear out your laser
Verbatim & Taiyo Yuden would be my top 2 choices.
If you buy them in stores then you should be able to at least find the Verbatim Datalife 8X DVD-R somewhere
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17. July 2006 @ 09:11 |
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have you tried your old backups lately. see if they run choppy. if so, then your ps2 lens needs cleaning. if they work fine then check your dma mode for your burner. see if it got reset to pio mode.which can happen from time to time. you may have to reinstall/update your firmware if its your burner thats acting up.
the fact your using memorex shouldnt matter seeing that they worked before. DVDR quality is mainly based on the compatibilty with your burner. there are burners that work very well with memorex.
and if the die does fade then the DVDR would become unreadable before it would strain your laser out. dvdrs ruining your ps2 is just a theory and really hasnt been proven conclusively.
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LoNgOnG
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17. July 2006 @ 15:28 |
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My old back-ups work fine. And now i have uninstalled DVD Decrypter and do not have any other burning program to burn any games. can someone give me the install for DVD Decrypter or another program for burning games?
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17. July 2006 @ 15:32 |
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LoNgOnG
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17. July 2006 @ 16:09 |
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i burned it at half speed with a different media and it still isnt working its still the same as before
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17. July 2006 @ 20:12 |
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check your dma mode for your burner. see if it got reset to pio mode.which can happen from time to time. you may have to reinstall/update your firmware if its your burner thats acting up.
its starting to sound like your burner is the problem.using your burner over a period of time may cause it to go alittle haywire. problems like reseting the dma (direct memory access) or the firmware gets screwed up and needs to be reinstalled/updated. hell, you might need to clean your burner's lens.
and then again, it just might be some problem games that are hard to burn in the first place. what games are you having trouble with?
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LoNgOnG
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17. July 2006 @ 20:28 |
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how do i check my dma and stuff... im having trouble burning alot games mostly EA sport games like NCAA Football 07 and NFL head coach but i dont think its because its EA its not working every game i do
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 17. July 2006 @ 20:33
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17. July 2006 @ 21:44 |
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Okay hold up. He hasn't confirmed he's using quality media, it's way too early to blame the hardware (i.e. burner). What kind of media are you using? What's the Media ID? To check if your burner is in DMA mode, use this link.
http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/checking%20DMA.pdf
The Media ID of the disc is what's important, not the manufacturer.
91. Q. What is the Media ID of a DVD and how can I find it?
A.The Media ID of a DVD is the true measure of it's quality. It contains prerecorded info about the disc's manufacturer. The quality of the disc will vary depending on the media code. The media code isn't visible on the disc or the packaging. To check the media ID, Open DVD Decrypter, insert your disc, and check what it says under Media ID or Manufacturer ID. You can also use a program called DVD Identifier which is very useful. You can find it here: http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/
Compare the Media ID to this link: http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
Huge List of Media ID's (Thanks to DogBomb): http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/155431
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LoNgOnG
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17. July 2006 @ 22:10 |
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I did the DMA thing and I checked the Media
Im using whats below
Manufacturer ID : [CMC MAG]
Media ID : [M01]
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 17. July 2006 @ 22:11
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17. July 2006 @ 22:14 |
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Yeah the Media is the problem. Pick up some 8x Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim's.
6. Q. Where can I find good deals on legit Taiyo Yuden's and Verbatim's?
A. http://www.supermediastore.com
Great List of Merchants locally, online, in the U.K., etc:
http://www.digitalfaq.com/dvdguides/buyerguides/buymedia.htm
106. Q. Where can I find top notch Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim media locally?
A. This is somewhat of a crap shoot. Big manufacturer's like Fuji and Sony have at one point past or present payed Taiyo Yuden to manufacture media for them. The big companies slap their name on the label even though the discs were manufactured in Japan by Taiyo Yuden. These discs will always be made in Japan. Authentic TY media isn't made anywhere else. Even if it says Made in Japan on the label, there is no guarantee of getting authentic Taiyo Yuden media. You could still end up with Sony or Fuji media codes. Hence why I said this is a crap shoot. Places like Comp USA, Office Depot, Sam's Club, and Staples will carry Made In Japan branded discs. If you don't want to risk getting non TY discs, you can find 50 packs of Verbatim in the afore mentioned chain stores. There's a trick to spotting Taiyo Yuden's under the Sony label. Newer 8x Sony DVD+R's (Media ID: Yuden000T02) will have an octogonal spacer (piece of styrofoam) on top of the spindle. 16x Taiyo Yuden DVD-R's (TYG03) will also have an octogonal spacer on top of the 50 spindles. You'll still want to check to see if it says "Made in Japan" on the label, but newer batches of TY's can usually be identified by the octogonal spacer. One other alternative is the Made in Japan High Grade Maxell DVD+R's. They will say Made in Japan on the label and "High Grade" as well. These are excellent media. Remember when using DVD+R's, it's best you have a burner that supports booktyping/bitsetting, and a v.4 PS2 or later. Much thanks goes to kivory666 aka "docTY" for this information. He is indeed the Taiyo Yuden master. The best place to get authentic Taiyo Yuden media is from reputable online vendors like http://www.supermediastore.com http://www.rima.com http://www.meritline.com or http://www.newegg.com
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17. July 2006 @ 23:47 |
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i burned it at half speed with a different media and it still isnt working
how can it be the media if he has used the same media and his old backups work fine? and as you can see, he used a different media this time with the same result. and for christ sakes, ty and verbs arent the only dvdrs that work good. ive used just about every kind of DVDR and gotten all my games to work with them all. there is a slight quality difference in them based on the compatibilty with my burner. but not to the point where any of the dvdrs didnt work.
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18. July 2006 @ 04:42 |
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sui-cyco
why people, especially senior members, would still come here and claim that media makes no difference is beyond me.
MEDIA DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE! and 9 out of 10 people would agree.
There are different qualities of media on the market, as stated by many independent media write tests that can be found all over the internet. These are tested with various quality burners and most often give results that will show either good or bad no matter which burner was used. True, some burners do better with some media then others. But cheap quality media is still cheap quality media. Some just work better than others and there is no disputing that. Now on to the real problem.
The CMC Mag discs are certainly not your best choice. But i have used CMC mag myself with great success (Philip's 8X DVD-R)
EA Sports games have been known to give many people problems,
I have seen patches on the net that you can get and apply so that you have less problems burning EA Sports games.
If your firmware is up to date, and you have used media from this same batch before with success then it could very well be that your burner is just in need of cleaning, laser calibration, setting changes, or is just plain going dead.
I had a Sony burner that worked great for a few years, never failed me. Then one day it just started messing up on some games, while others it would burn perfectly fine. Even after cleaning the problem proceeded to worsen to the point where it even had problems reading the blank discs themselves. So I took it out and put in a $45
BenQ DW1655 and all has been well since.
Also as suggested, try rebuilding the game just for kicks and see if this helps the loading problems.
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18. July 2006 @ 05:04 |
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Try rebuilding the game ISO and then burn it to see if that makes a difference.. but yes I would go with better media, you're probably not paying that much less for the CMC mag discs than you would for verbatim or ritek g05/g04 discs.
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18. July 2006 @ 07:54 |
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@steimy
ive been here before and ive never liked how people were so quick to suggest getting better media as a solution. getting media that is more compatible with your burner can get some games to play better. but you have to know which works best and not always does this work. ive seen too many people drive themselves nuts trying to find the best media. people would go out and buy verbs and that didnt solve their problem. then they would go get ty's and that didnt work. mainly because their problem had nothing to do with the media. if people would have alittle patience and try to eliminate the less costly solution before going out and blowing money on media. there would be less people screaming that they burned another coaster and they desperately need help. just to have someone else come by and repeat that he should use better media after he already used three different kind. sorry that this was so long winded, but it gets alittle ridiculous with the "get better media" solution.
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18. July 2006 @ 09:11 |
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sui-cyco , first i will apologize for my crankiness this morning. I was a bit harsh.
I see your point and agree. It should not always be the first "end all-be all" of answers for games not working.
But when i see someone using Memosux media that will always be my first response. It is just not good. i would say the people who have had success VS the people who have had problems is about 10-1 against.
and unfortunately with this post i am not getting enough good information to be able to narrow anything down, which is why i am throwing anything i can think of out there. He said he tried different media, but did not list brands. If they are all cheap then media could possibly still be the problem.
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18. July 2006 @ 10:04 |
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a list of all the games that dont work would be helpful. ea games give alot of people trouble. mainly because most of them are over 4gb. so you'll be copying to the edge of the disc which causes problems. finding media that is very compatible with your burner could help. but like i said, that usually is a guessing game as all burners arent the same.
i would like to know if all the games that dont work are over 4gb? and the burn speeds used with each DVDR? and the max burn speed of the burner itself?
usually when games are running alittle choppy, you have to tweak something alittle bit. most of the time adjusting burn speeds works. or you could adjust your ps2 lens to read the dvdrs better.
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18. July 2006 @ 11:24 |
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@ Sui-cyco How does your rant help anything? Go through your posts here and reread them. They're off the wall. You've suggested four different things, without getting any feedback from LongonG. If you think I'm mistaken, then go back over your posts and see if he's tried any of your suggestions before you blindly move on to the next. CMC Mag is garbage, that's the most likely cause. If he tries quality media, everything else is in order, and it still doesn't work, then I'm mistaken. I don't think so though. You're not helping anything by blindly throwing out solutions, before LongonG even gets a chance to report back. This isn't personal, I just think you're hurting more than helping. Your intentions are good, I just feel your strategy needs revised. Anyway flame me if you want, seems to be the state of AD nowadays.
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