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buying a new graphics card
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dreamer2
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8. September 2006 @ 19:50 |
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i want to buy a new graphics card. but i m confuse between x1300, x1600. that which one should i buy. i prefer ati because i already have ati card. please help thanks
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dreamer2
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8. September 2006 @ 20:00 |
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or which one is better geoforce 7800gs or ati x1600. thanks
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8. September 2006 @ 20:40 |
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To tell you the truth, you'd be better off with an nVida card in my opinion. Less wories and greater compatibility with more games being realeased. On top of that, you get more bang for your buck.
I would go with any nVidia card in the 7 series (7800 GT/GTX)
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9. September 2006 @ 07:58 |
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9. September 2006 @ 09:43 |
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7800 gs is better than 1600. the nvidia counterpart to 1600 is 7600. Id say 7600 is still better than 1600
X2 3800, A8n deluxe motherboard, 7800GT, Xion 2 case
2GB Patriot DDR 400, Audigy 2 ZS gamer, 400GB SATA RAID 0
games Im looking forward to: bioshock, SSBB, enemy territory quake wars, halo 3
currently playing: command and conquer 3, supreme commander, counter strike, shivering isles
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9. September 2006 @ 12:15 |
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It is. The X1600 pro is slow, but also cheap, significantly cheaper than the 7600 series, for some reason.
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9. September 2006 @ 21:59 |
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The price difference may have stemmed from the "product inferiority" factor lol. This may bae a bad time to bring this up but I never liked ATI. Especially since when I was new to computers and I asked for a 128 MB card and they gave me an X300 and shortly after I got it, I realised that the card couldn't even run Snood.
I still have it, longing for a money break as to buy a new one. That's why I'm going with nVidia. And to be honest, from what i've been hearing so far, the 6800/6800GT should serve you well. That's what i'm looking at buying (until the prices on the 7 series come down)
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9. September 2006 @ 22:09 |
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The 7800GS by far is better. But, if you want HDR with FSAA, ATi is the only way to go (x1800GTO is in the 7800GS's price range).
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dreamer2
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10. September 2006 @ 18:04 |
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i have sony pcv rs 530 g. with 3.2 mhz processor. does processor and motherboard make a big differnce if i install nvidia geoforce 7800gs.or only graphics card will do work for me. i m confused now to either buy full fluged pc with vista and directx compatability or buy a new graphics card. thanks for u help
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10. September 2006 @ 18:12 |
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Well, that depends on your intentions with the VGA upgrade. Modern games are far more videocard intensive and performance is based more like Videocard=75% CPU=25%, when five years ago performance it used to be closer to 50/50. If Vista/DX10 is what you're looking for, buy a lower-mid-range card now, like a 7600GT/x1600PRO (but, still a great upgrade) and wait for DX10 videocards to come out in the semi-near future.
When evolution selects its agents, it does so at a cost, makes demands in exchange for singularity, and you may be asked to do something against your very nature. This force, evolution, is not sentimental. Like the Earth itself, it knows only the hard facts of life's struggle with death. All you can do is hope and trust that when you have served its needs faithfully, there may still remain some glimmer of the life you once knew.
Dell GX240 P4 1.8ghz, 768mb PC133
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm
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Visiontek 9600xt 256mb
BenQ DW1640 (BSOB), LITEON LTD163 (GH5S-D)
Sony 8x DVD+R (YUDEN000T02)
Verbatim 8x DVD+R (MCC 003}
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dreamer2
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10. September 2006 @ 18:50 |
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dreamer2
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10. September 2006 @ 18:53 |
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i have 220watt power supply and geoforce 7600 recommends 300w. if i dont upgrade my power supply .it wil still run or not and if it will run its dangerous or nothing gona happen.upgrading to 350 is like 50$ more for me.
so i had to spend like 230 . i think. or i can just put new graphics card and run it
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10. September 2006 @ 19:13 |
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Videocards that require extra power will not work without it. As far as power supplies are concerned. This is one of the highest rated and also costs less than what you're expected to: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817153023
Don't let the price fool you, It's high-quality. Just read a few reviews.
When evolution selects its agents, it does so at a cost, makes demands in exchange for singularity, and you may be asked to do something against your very nature. This force, evolution, is not sentimental. Like the Earth itself, it knows only the hard facts of life's struggle with death. All you can do is hope and trust that when you have served its needs faithfully, there may still remain some glimmer of the life you once knew.
Dell GX240 P4 1.8ghz, 768mb PC133
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm
Visiontek 9600xt 256mb
BenQ DW1640 (BSOB), LITEON LTD163 (GH5S-D)
Sony 8x DVD+R (YUDEN000T02)
Verbatim 8x DVD+R (MCC 003}
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dreamer2
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10. September 2006 @ 19:17 |
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10. September 2006 @ 20:06 |
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The compatibility between micro-ATX and standard ATX come down generaly to the case you're using. If it's a slimline/low profile case, a standard ATX PSU may not fit. Do you know the model/make of your case?
After looking around, I notice you were looking for help for the same issue back in october. Tsk tsk, all that talking from people and absolutely no help. It looks like they just kept saying the same things over and over again and I'm sorry you've been having problems for so long.
Sadly, I can't seem to find any information, as to the dimensions of your computer's PSU. It was brought up that it is using a propitary form factor and thus, non-upgradable (from a "bolt-in" sense). Tho, if you can supply the dimensions of the PSU, we may be able to find something that will fit.
*sigh* With that said, I'm left to suggesting one of two things:
1.) Use the best AGP video card that doesn't require extra power: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814103159
2.) Use a 5.25 bay video card power supply like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817153037
Looks like there aren't any inexpensive options to get any good performance. On the other hand, a 9600xt is a lovely upgrade from the 9200 I believe you're currently using.
When evolution selects its agents, it does so at a cost, makes demands in exchange for singularity, and you may be asked to do something against your very nature. This force, evolution, is not sentimental. Like the Earth itself, it knows only the hard facts of life's struggle with death. All you can do is hope and trust that when you have served its needs faithfully, there may still remain some glimmer of the life you once knew.
Dell GX240 P4 1.8ghz, 768mb PC133
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm
Visiontek 9600xt 256mb
BenQ DW1640 (BSOB), LITEON LTD163 (GH5S-D)
Sony 8x DVD+R (YUDEN000T02)
Verbatim 8x DVD+R (MCC 003}
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dreamer2
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10. September 2006 @ 22:10 |
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10. September 2006 @ 22:29 |
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The power supply you're looking at seems like it would work. There's a reviewer that states it works in their Sony Vaio, so I'd say it's a safe bet. The only concern would be the power draw. See, the 7600GS cards I see on newegg.com require 350watts @18amps, while the PSU you posted supplies 350watts @17amps. But, the 7600GS from CompUSA requires 300watts and doesn't specify the current draw.
Hrm, I'd say go for it and pic up the PSU and 7600GS (256mB version is fine and also cheaper on newegg.com).
When evolution selects its agents, it does so at a cost, makes demands in exchange for singularity, and you may be asked to do something against your very nature. This force, evolution, is not sentimental. Like the Earth itself, it knows only the hard facts of life's struggle with death. All you can do is hope and trust that when you have served its needs faithfully, there may still remain some glimmer of the life you once knew.
Dell GX240 P4 1.8ghz, 768mb PC133
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm
Visiontek 9600xt 256mb
BenQ DW1640 (BSOB), LITEON LTD163 (GH5S-D)
Sony 8x DVD+R (YUDEN000T02)
Verbatim 8x DVD+R (MCC 003}
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dreamer2
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11. September 2006 @ 07:59 |
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11. September 2006 @ 10:46 |
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Only the most modern games (read, Oblivion) really utilize videocards with 512mB of memory. It's been said that video cards manufactured a year or so ago with 512mB actually performed less than 256mB cards due to the the onboard memory controllers. All in all, today it's good to have 512mB cards since it won't have to dump its memory every so often to load up more textures/effects, unlike a 512mB card which will need to do it half as often.
Look at memory on video cards like memory for a computer, having more doesn't make it faster, per sae. It just keeps the computer from slowing down.
When evolution selects its agents, it does so at a cost, makes demands in exchange for singularity, and you may be asked to do something against your very nature. This force, evolution, is not sentimental. Like the Earth itself, it knows only the hard facts of life's struggle with death. All you can do is hope and trust that when you have served its needs faithfully, there may still remain some glimmer of the life you once knew.
Dell GX240 P4 1.8ghz, 768mb PC133
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm
Visiontek 9600xt 256mb
BenQ DW1640 (BSOB), LITEON LTD163 (GH5S-D)
Sony 8x DVD+R (YUDEN000T02)
Verbatim 8x DVD+R (MCC 003}
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12. September 2006 @ 02:14 |
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kshep, that wasn't ATI's fault, so how can you hold that against them?
Dreamer: It probably won't run with a 7600 in it, it will just shut down when you start playing a game.
With regard to video memory, check what type it is, 256MB DDR2 or GDDR3 is better than 512MB of DDR1.
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dreamer2
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12. September 2006 @ 10:40 |
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so u r saying that i cant put new graphics card and it will shutdown my computer. even if i upgrade power supply. some link or any reference.
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12. September 2006 @ 13:17 |
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if you get a better psu that is compatable with the gpu it will work. if your psu does not produce enough power for the gpu it will shut down.
can any1 tell me which agp card would give me the most punch for my pound, it will be running at 10/12 res and i would like as much eye candy as pos with out breaking the bank. i have also read that there an agp 6800 that u can unlock 4 extra pix pipelines ne1 know about that?
ne help would be great, thanks
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12. September 2006 @ 13:38 |
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so u r saying that i cant put new graphics card and it will shutdown my computer. even if i upgrade power supply. some link or any reference.
There isn't any reference, because it isn't true, dreamer. Sony doesn't use proprietary hardware watermarking like Dell and are compatible with whatever the software/hardware/chipsets will allow.
marsey99, This thread already covered the best AGP card to use (with suffient power).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143046
When evolution selects its agents, it does so at a cost, makes demands in exchange for singularity, and you may be asked to do something against your very nature. This force, evolution, is not sentimental. Like the Earth itself, it knows only the hard facts of life's struggle with death. All you can do is hope and trust that when you have served its needs faithfully, there may still remain some glimmer of the life you once knew.
Dell GX240 P4 1.8ghz, 768mb PC133
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm
Visiontek 9600xt 256mb
BenQ DW1640 (BSOB), LITEON LTD163 (GH5S-D)
Sony 8x DVD+R (YUDEN000T02)
Verbatim 8x DVD+R (MCC 003}
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12. September 2006 @ 13:46 |
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jallen thanks for that, and i know thats best money can buy but thats not quite what i asked. that card is nearly £400 and that is twice the price the rest of the components inside my case.
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