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yeababy
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15. September 2003 @ 02:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
is earth station 5 as good as blocking as they state
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Maphisto
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16. September 2003 @ 05:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Yep you do need peerguardian as zonealarm wouldnt have a list of ips to block!
Actually the reason he isn't seeing any ip's blocked is because he is running zone alarm which will block all Ip's that try to send information to your computer if there isn't a program telling zone alarm that it is waiting for data from that Ip address.

However The ip blocker program would be good for p2p programs that might allow RIAA to access your computer by sending you a bad file. Not really sure how all the RIAA tricks work, havn't heard much about them yet.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 27. October 2003 @ 20:35

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8. October 2003 @ 10:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The just simply download a song and take the ip address they got it from and make rediculous claims about how much money this user has cost them!
Powa
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27. October 2003 @ 11:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just as a heads up, don't download anything related to Black Cat MP3 Protector, its a trojan dropper which puts a trojan in your internet explorer folder. Probably made by the RIAA.

I tried the program, and then a week or so later I noticed some strange stuff going on, and found tskmgr32.exe trying to connect to the internet, so I submitted that to Symantec, and now 2weeks later they've updated their virus definitions to combat it.



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27. October 2003 @ 20:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hehe interesting head's up Powa! :-)

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10. November 2003 @ 16:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can solve all of this without having to install any software on your computer.....

AnonX gives you privacy on the Web by masking your network identity through our Anonymous Proxy Service.

Supported Software: Explorer, Netscape, Kazaa, Morpheus, Freenet, Emule, Gnutella, Imesh, Shareaza, BitTorrent, Limewire, Trillian, AIM, MSN Messenger, Yahoo Messenger, IRC, WSFTP, CuteFTP, Windows Media Player and Real Player

visit http:[url]http://www.anonx.com]Anonx[/url]
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13. November 2003 @ 16:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
errr... IRC isnt a program.

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28. November 2003 @ 01:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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AnonX gives you privacy on the Web by masking your network identity through our Anonymous Proxy Service.
Do you have to use your own proxy list?? If so, good luck on finding a good Socks5 proxy cause without one, ur not gonna get good results!

anonxsurf
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28. November 2003 @ 12:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i've been using it myself and haven't had any problems with speed or anything of that nature. it mask my host and ip address.
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28. November 2003 @ 13:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok so, so how much is it? + average speed? + do they promise they wont supply your information if they are subpeona'd??
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1. December 2003 @ 13:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Who's the RIAA?

...Royal Institute of Anal Artificers?

Also, as well, too even, when software on a computer "phone's home, it is not getting the bill payers' permission and therefore strictly speaking you could claim the price of the call from the deviant software company, non?

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1. December 2003 @ 14:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just to let you know, IP blocking and "anonomous proxy" techniques are useless. Yes I said useless. Reason?
For IP blocking, RIAA isn't that stupid enough to reveal their IP addresses to public. Heck, they aren't the ones who are scanning the net! Do you think a company employee which scans for p2p users reveal their own IP address? Nah, in fact, what they might do is post bogus IP addresses claiming it's the RIAA PEOPLE scanning your computer! Anyway, the IP addresses are not valid. Don't argue. No proof was shown.
For Annomous Proxy, let me tell you that this is a waste of your time. Hmmm, a public anamous proxy first of all would be bogged down by P2P users which makes the server slow. Second, there are speculations that even the RIAA or the MPAA might be hosting their own proxy servers for innocent p2p users to use, they will get the who activities of the p2p users.

My choice? There is no perfect security in p2p world. It might take a thousand years, but people can crack any type of encryptions in an unlimited amounts of time. Your best bet is using freenet or WASTE which uses heavy encryption transmission for every transfer of files and protocals. I also recommand using private small DC++ network which keeps strict on who can join the network. Because of the strict rule, RIAA or MPAA might have a hardtime getting in.
anonxsurf
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2. December 2003 @ 11:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well for starters, I'm not with RIAA or what ever the hell their initials are. The only thing I have done is built the website for www.anonx.com of which I was using the service during their testing phases. TDKYO mentions that once a lot of users get on the proxy it slows down, due to disclosures and patent pending technology, I cant say how, but they have found a way for this to work. Another person ask if they capture cc information. Since they are using paypal, they are not capturing any personal information on their servers. The only thing on their servers is user name, login and whether the account is active or not.

I'm just speaking from the testing that we did on the server and with a 100MB connection at 70% capacity, the servers didn't even nudge.
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2. December 2003 @ 12:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Just to let you know, IP blocking and "anonomous proxy" techniques are useless. Yes I said useless. Reason?
For IP blocking, RIAA isn't that stupid enough to reveal their IP addresses to public. Heck, they aren't the ones who are scanning the net! Do you think a company employee which scans for p2p users reveal their own IP address? Nah, in fact, what they might do is post bogus IP addresses claiming it's the RIAA PEOPLE scanning your computer! Anyway, the IP addresses are not valid. Don't argue. No proof was shown
IP addresses are easily got. Remember you can whois any ip address on the net. Also the RIAA couldnt just sign up to an average ISP and do that because they would be breaking the privacy rules the ISP set out! Also dont forget about the servers on eMule and other places who monitor what the users get up to and can easily spot odd things!!
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For Annomous Proxy, let me tell you that this is a waste of your time. Hmmm, a public anamous proxy first of all would be bogged down by P2P users which makes the server slow. Second, there are speculations that even the RIAA or the MPAA might be hosting their own proxy servers for innocent p2p users to use, they will get the who activities of the p2p users.
I wouldnt be a proxy guy either, especially not public anonymous proxies!
Wizz
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5. December 2003 @ 06:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi iv'e installed peer gaurdian .10...but its showing CP usage as 90% and above....this makes it unusable....is anyone else getting this???
ANX1234
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8. December 2003 @ 10:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey, I use AnonX and it works great. No loss of speed. If you don't believe then email the techsupport@anonx.com and have them set you up with a free trail. That's what convienced me.

PS. AnonX does everything they claim. It kick butt.
Carpefile
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10. December 2003 @ 07:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The new version of es5 due to be released employs a new protocol called "pxp" which will allow your computer to spoof ip addresses. You'll be able to appear to be anyone, like the whitehouse or even the RIAA. Won't need to use proxies anymore. I see that you have edited your starting post to say es5 is not to be trusted. What made you change your mind?
ANX1234
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10. December 2003 @ 21:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Spoofing does not work. Your ISP still know who you are and spoofing will cause alot of failed packets with any router built in the last three years. Spoofing was great 10 years ago it is not effective today.

Carpefile
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16. December 2003 @ 04:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Doesn't your isp have to know who you are to provide you with their service? Are you saying with the proxy service you are promoting your isp doesn't know who you are? Btw, spoofing is ineffective with any router that uses nat, as it simply translates your ip to the one assigned by your isp.
Wizz
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16. December 2003 @ 09:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think the writing's on the wall lads,it's getting pretty grim for P2P.What suprises me these days is how many nasty folks working for "The Industry" are actually attacking downloaders computers withe ICMP flooding or Syn attacks etc....+ all manner of trogens hidden away in them free files that they release themselves

No kidding some guy somewhere literally attacked my computer for weeks....I'd only used emule to upload a pic of my lovely wife in the noddy :)....sheesh.
{edit)OK she was holding 13 new mp3's by Atomic Kitten in her hand...:)

Be careful out there!

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 16. December 2003 @ 09:13

markusk
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17. December 2003 @ 00:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have a feeling that in the near future those massive communities which are available for everyone will disappear and private communities for smaller amounts of people will form up. This is mainly due to the fact that the people who have a lot to lose (hub hosters, big sharers) aren't overly interested in getting sued/jailed/fined. I see a big demand for secure p2p where all traffic is encoded.
ANX1234
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17. December 2003 @ 03:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Spoofing does not work because their is a random id associated with each packet that associates that packet back to you. If you try to spoof an address it will not bet sent back to you because the id does not match. In the past the id's were auto-incremmenting and you could guess with a 80% or better success rate, but now with random id's it is net to impossible.


With AnonX your ISP still knows who you are, but the packets from the AnonX servers are encrypted and look like a VPN style packet. In other words it looks like you are working from home NOT sharing p2p traffic. YOUR ISP CANNOT TELL WHAT YOU ARE SENDING/RECIEVING. It is the perfect solution.



Carpefile
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17. December 2003 @ 04:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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With AnonX your ISP still knows who you are, but the packets from the AnonX servers are encrypted and look like a VPN style packet. In other words it looks like you are working from home NOT sharing p2p traffic. YOUR ISP CANNOT TELL WHAT YOU ARE SENDING/RECIEVING. It is the perfect solution
This is pure spam. Buy a banner ad. :-#
ANX1234
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17. December 2003 @ 10:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   


Spam NOT.



Look I have been using AnonX for a while, and the only compliant that I have is the following:

I get a yellow light most of the time when connected to BT. I can still download at 100KB/s which is close to what I get when I don't use AnonX.

If you want to put something usefull on this thread tell me how to make the yellow light go green.







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Carpefile
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17. December 2003 @ 11:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Alright, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but it reads like ad copy to me.
Can't offer you any help with yer BT problem, as I use a p2p that includes verified ssl anonymous proxies as part of the FREE service it offers (at d/l speeds peaking over 300k). So that's all I use, ever. I don't want to get in a pissing contest with ya, so I'll just say I use what works for me and you use what works for you. Then we can still be cordial. K, I won't bug ya anymore.
 
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