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Carpefile
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11. October 2004 @ 08:12 |
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You could also(and IMHO should) try ANts. Its anon and encrypted, making it the closest thing to foolproof protection there is.
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dzindzin
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29. October 2004 @ 12:58 |
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there is a way to share files without fear on any network. here is what you have to do:
1 zip (rar or do some other compression to a file)
2 protect compressed file with password.
3 rename *zip , *rar or other compression format file you just made to something stupid- *me, *bu, *pir or whatsoever
4 make a file name unattractive, for example:
hnejghwreooif4njhfe5
5 for extra security slice file into 2 parts- one very small, just a few kilobytes or megabytes. -
in that way it will be not readable by any program as long as you don't have a missing file part.
benefits of this?
well you won't get any letters from RIAA or MPAA, you will not get sued, you can share such files ON ANY NETWORK! i mean file sharing is legal so far , is it? as long as you not infringe with coopyright:). well in order to prove othervise they will have to hook to something- file name won't work, if they will download file, they will not be able to see what is it. so GOOD LUCK FOR THEM!:)
well there is only disadvantage- users loose search function... you are not able to search for some files you want...
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rule of thumb-
RIAA and MPAA is after big networks. I downloaded tons of stuff on edonkey network. but only recently got 2 MPAA sh**** letters. WHY? it is because kazaa was destroyed, edonkey network is in first place by user number and file amount.
I doubt if RIAA and MPAA will go after lets say XXYY network and software, as long as it will be not based on existing networks- like edonkey, fastrack or something well known.
antip2p filters don't work. might be they help a litlllllle bit, but doesn't protect at least 50%.
i doubt if someone in RIAA will use official RIAA ip. they can setup a tracking from any computer, with any ip... i don't think they so stupid.
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pero
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1. November 2004 @ 05:01 |
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To rename file and so on, then it could be impossible to share or get that you want.
For now the best solution is to use Peer guardian but that is not 100%. You never know which IP RIAA is using, like you said.
When we will stop downloading we will be sure everything is ok and it is legal.
You get two emails? Uff. I got one but I wish I didn`t. My friends told me, they all get that kind of messages. This is one of the ways how to scare people to stop DL.
One thing I have to say by the way. Try to download only one or two movies at time and when you will get them, remove them from share. Share the less files as you can or just fake files.
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Carpefile
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1. November 2004 @ 08:29 |
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Share the less files as you can or just fake files.
Kinda sorta defeats the whole purpose of filesharing doesn't it? If people take your advice, then the RIAA/MPAA/BPI etc. have already won. End of p2p.
Maybe instead you could try an app/network that actually provides some protection to its users by encrypting the data transferred, hiding your identity, etc.
Admittedly most of these are not as easy to use as Kazaa, and the guis are not very flashy, but they are much safer than simply relying on peer guardian to block out the bad guys.
Check out apps like Waste,Zultrax, ANts, Mute. They all provide protection to their users, so you can actually Promote P2P by SHARING.
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hairyfrog
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2. November 2004 @ 20:55 |
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I DL stuff sometimes. I get a bit annoyed when the music/film/software industry announce in the press and media that they're going to take someone to court, or that they're clamping down, etc...
But, you should take into account these things when you get a bit shakey in the knees, and start sweating and worrying:
This is all in the scenario 'What if I'm taken to court..?'
1.. When you go on P2P, you should keep dummy files: You cannot get sued for a *.txt file that's been renamed to *.MP3
2.. When you've got it move it from your shared folder: Move the file from your shares, & build a cr*ppy text file with some random words in it, rename to the same you've just DL'd & move to your shares , & make all sharing info the same as the original. Because, it's alright DLing the file, but the spooks have to proove that that is the file you have on your system (eg, what about hackers that route pathways through ppl's systems: it could be that someone has used your internet connection to get a file from somewhere else - that's not your fault. So, spookies have to proove you have their file on your system.) This is why you make dummies.
3.. If someone wants something from you: Put it in your shares by all means - but only share with your mates. Only have a few items in there at one time, and make the majority cr*ppy text files renamed.
4.. You agree to allow ppl access to your SHARES: This means that anyone has legal access to items in your shares(legal access, means you allow them to take a copy of what's in there... not, that what's in your shared folder is legal.) Now, you must remember that only your shares are accessable; anywhere else on your system is considered hacking as the spooks will have to use hacking methods to poke around outside your shares.
5.. In the event you are taken to court: Ask them to prove that the file you downloaded was their file, and that it was opened and used. Also, ask them why they were sharing the file in the first place ("ah, but the file I DL'd wouldn't open" "I think it was damaged" "are you sure it was the one you were sharing?"). These companies are all ready to share the music, ready to intice ppl to DL their files, so that they can take them to court.
6.. But, they took an 8 year old girl to court: And? Your point is? - The reason they took a youngster to court is that they can bully children & their parents easier than adults without their parents. I bet if you look at all the cases they've won, you'll find that the 'culprits' were threatened a bit and bullied into submission.
Basically, P2P sharing will always happen.
8D
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Wizz
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3. November 2004 @ 08:21 |
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lol....share networks won't last very long if everybody followed your advice...and shared fake files.I mean WTF?
Read the post previous to yours...It's a SHARE network,to download something you dont have,somebody else SHARED it....that's the fcking point...lol.
You are what's know as a LEECHER....you wanna suck the free files,take take take...and no give.
If you want to share just with your mate,burn it on a disk and give him it..lol.
And if your mates got a file that you want,where did he get it from?Somebody take a train and dropped it off at his house..lol,..no, he downloaded it on a SHARE network..because somebody else SHARED IT
I mean, do you get it?Has the penny dropped..?
I only share with my mates too....but i have three and a half milion of them..lol.
Look....if your all going to be shitty arses and pee your pants in fear of getting a letter...DON'T bother sharing,just leech away until the network is dead...then the RIAA have won already.
Leave the Superdooper Rock hard people like me ..lol,to take on the big boys.
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hairyfrog
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3. November 2004 @ 10:16 |
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lol....share networks won't last very long if everybody followed your advice...and shared fake files.I mean WTF?
Read the post previous to yours...It's a SHARE network,to download something you dont have,somebody else SHARED it....that's the fcking point...lol.
You are what's know as a LEECHER....you wanna suck the free files,take take take...and no give.
Leave the Superdooper Rock hard people like me ..lol,to take on the big boys.
Well, thx for your <RANT> it was great to read. 8D
That post is as from a legal point of view... ie, what if...., etc.
If you read the post carefully, you'll probably come to understand that it's aimed at ppl who are a bit shakey at the thought of sharing. It would seem obvious to many advanced sharers that this isn't the way to SHARE, and so wouldn't even bother with this advice AND would also UNDERSTAND that it is aimed at real NEWBIE P2P sharers.
Of course I share with others than my mates, and yes we all have 3.5 mln mates. But, I'm certainly not going to say who, or what, or why.
You really are calling the wrong person a LEECHER. And, I certainly know what they are, and can spot them miles off.
I am NOT going to announce to the whole world who I share with, what I share, and what I have on my system, or on CD, etc.
So, in repsonse to your question.... Has the PENNY dropped with you, too?
Hope this helps.
8D
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Wizz
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3. November 2004 @ 13:04 |
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Well...it was more the case of me,pissing myself laughing than a rant..
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1.. When you go on P2P, you should keep dummy files:
No...this is the worst thing you can do to a network...it clogs it up with useless hashes,its bad advice whether a noob is shitting himself or not.
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When you've got it move it from your shared folder:
Great :)...advise them to leech and ...er..not share?
Do you work for the RIAA or what?lol.
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If someone wants something from you: Put it in your shares by all means - but only share with your mates.
Only share with your mates?..this isn't a game of Trumps..;p
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Only have a few items in there at one time, and make the majority cr*ppy text files renamed.
lol....What's the point of creating fake files,the folder mayswell be empty,unless your looking for credits to increase your leeching.C'mon...jees.
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You agree to allow ppl access to your SHARES
ha,ha,ha...i'm going to have to change my pants shortly.
DO NOT allow people to see your share's...respect your own privacy and do not incriminate yourself by allowing someone to poke around your HD.
Unless your sharing 500mb txt files that is...lol.
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In the event you are taken to court
Is because the offence is distribution not downloading.
You were caught distributing copyrighted data and allowing anyone to see your share folder....and unlucky.lol.
[Quote]This is all in the scenario 'What if I'm taken to court..?'
If you've already thought of this scenario,then your filling your tracky bottoms with brown stuff already,and should cry off sick,as to leave the filesharing to the MEN.
Ok Hairyfrog...just a bit of fun..;p
If you want to advise people to leech and ruin networks with fake files,you destroy the network anyway,and the RIAA don't even have to bat a ball.
Now,has the penny dropped yet?
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amtm
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5. November 2004 @ 07:13 |
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i have to add something to this thread to get started software firewall sux you need a good router with nat funtion on top of that make sure you don't use the default ports switch them up then set up your port fowarding with the ports that you are using IE tcp udp then you need to download portowall and then blocklist manager make sure its up dated on a daily basis and protowall ip filter is incorpated in the options so it gets updated all the time now protowall will run as a service and take up hardly no resources what so ever I'm not knocking peerguridan but I've been using protwall for ever and have not had a problem hope this help just my 2 cents l8ter
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amtm
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5. November 2004 @ 07:13 |
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i have to add something to this thread to get started software firewall sux you need a good router with nat funtion on top of that make sure you don't use the default ports switch them up then set up your port fowarding with the ports that you are using IE tcp udp then you need to download portowall and then blocklist manager make sure its up dated on a daily basis and protowall ip filter is incorpated in the options so it gets updated all the time now protowall will run as a service and take up hardly no resources what so ever I'm not knocking peerguridan but I've been using protwall for ever and have not had a problem hope this help just my 2 cents l8ter
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Ishahmael
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18. November 2004 @ 04:13 |
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Questions:
1. I have a router. What security does that provide? I was told I don't need to have a software firewall (been using the built in firewall from service pack 2 for Windows XP) because the router's hardware firewall just makes it redundant. Should I shut off my Windows Xp firewall?
2. Does torrents/azureus leave you open to identification and tracking by the RIAA and MPAA or whoever? I am aware of safepeer for Azureus from the bluetack web site, which apparently works similar to peergaurdian except specific for Azureus.
3. What about mIRC, is using that any more private? Are mIRC or torrents/azureus any better for privacy than more commonly used kazaa or emule/edonkey
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chaoz
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6. December 2004 @ 19:14 |
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Does the RIAA and MPAA track you if you download files off IRC.
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ag22
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30. December 2004 @ 20:07 |
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P2Ps are dead guys. IRCs are bascially impossible to trac since they are hard to get into, and your ip address doesnt tell a damn thing. The IRAA can not track IRCs, and even if they figure out how they will have a hell of a time. Hard cord DLers belong to 3 IRCs. Each one has 50,000 people in it. Theres prolly 500,000 IRCs. They will have to trac 25 million users down. Impossible. These numbers are just guesses, well not even guesses, these numbers are BS, but do you think the IRAA is going to pay $50 a month for each IRC? They have no chance. P2P may be dead, but IRC is just getting started. Let the war continue! :-D
Compaq computer- $1200
Dell computer- $500
monitor- $150
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Xbox- $150
PSTwo- $150
Wirless kit- $50
The pain and frustration I go through with all of this Crap- priceless. Some things in life are free... others suck...
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pero
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3. January 2005 @ 03:39 |
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20. January 2005 @ 01:46 |
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Is there such thing as an I.P. cloaker/washer/hider etc.?
I Have an App which you can use to change your IP. I use it every time I download something. I hope It's doing it's Job lol. I have PeerGuardian, but It's like what everyone says, It's Not Totally Secure. I Guess There's no way to feel totally safe. Not yet Anyway.
-Mike.
PS. How Is Annoynomous File-Sharing Going atm? Is It Worth A Try?
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larytet
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9. February 2005 @ 15:06 |
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some ideas related to Anonymity (projetc on Source Forge)
http://i'manidiot.net/ edited by ddp
i tried anonx - my company firewall blocks access to the web site (thanks WebSense). this is just one of the long list of problems with proxy servers
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numbertwo
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5. March 2005 @ 21:27 |
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Has anybody here tried Proxy services like Anonymizer, Secure tunnel or Steganos Internet Anonym Pro. These programs bouce your Connection off of a Proxy Service so the enemy only sees the proxy address and not yours. I found this method gets around geo location that stop's content from going outside of specific arias.
Any Idea's
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