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Overlord
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21. October 2006 @ 19:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok so i have a 2 pentium ii slots with 300mhz each, im looking to upgrade to pentium 4 with 2ghz and i was wondering if it would go in the same slot, from what ive seen it wont and i was wondering if anyone has a suggestion on where to go from here. i have more than enough ram, and im looking to use it for games.

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21. October 2006 @ 19:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok 1st it wont fit since the slots r different and the motherboard wont support a p4 speed

so to use the p4 u need a new motherboard another power suppply new ram and a new video card if u havent bought the pentium 4 i would buy one of those intel core 2 duo also what games do u plan to play?

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21. October 2006 @ 20:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you mean Slot 1, no. You might not be able to upgrade them with 500 MHz chips let alone P4s.

P4s are a world apart. They need fan cooling, a different socket, even their own separate power supply in the form of a 4-pin plug, meaning you can't even reuse your old power supply.

-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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21. October 2006 @ 20:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks guys, I was thinking of mostly roms, and diablo 3 when it comes out, so i should get a new motherboard and transfer all my RAM and video card. Then i would need a new psu (if im correct) because mine is too old. my question is which motherboard should i get, and can someone reccomend a tutorial site for how to put the motherboard in the case? anything else i need? Thanks again
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21. October 2006 @ 20:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
might want to get a new computer instead as i can get this for $290Can plus tax but no windows.
INTEL P4 CELERON-D 326 CPU 2.6ghz
P4 MAINBOARD
512 M DDR400 RAM
32M SHARED VIDEO CARD
80GB 7200RPM HARDDRIVE
52X32X52 CDRW
32BIT SOUND CARD
1.44 FLOPPY DRIVE
10/100 NETCARD
ATX MID TOWER
W/300W POWER SUPPLY
KEYBOARD/MOUSE/120W SPEAKER
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21. October 2006 @ 20:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
old pc uses sdram ,now p4 mobo uses ddr or the latest ddr2 , you cannot use them
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21. October 2006 @ 20:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'd go with a much larger power supply (>400W at least) and a DVD burner, but otherwise that's a good price if you're on a budget. Consider also:

Pentium 805 about $90
GIGABYTE GA-8I945GZME-RH motherboard about $58 w/ integrated graphics
Corsair DDR2 512Mb $57
NEC ND-3550a DVD burner $20 after rebate at Tigerdirect.com
Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3250824AS 250GB SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive $75
Powmax CP769PL ATX Mid-Tower Case w/ 400Watt PS $30 at Tigerdirect

This comes in about $30 more but with a faster 250 Gb hard drive, DVD drive, and faster, dual-core CPU rather than a Celeron.

You can get an XFX GeForce 6200/128MB PCI-E card for $45 at tigerdirect and an extra stick of memory, which is the only upgrade to the this system I would make if I were buying it. BTW, you apparently can overclock that 805 to 4 GHz, though I wouldn't go nearly that far.

-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.

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21. October 2006 @ 21:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks a lot guys youve been great, but if i do get that motherboard, can i put my RAM (over 400) in it and my ati radeon video card etc, in the motherboard, the reason i want to so bad is cause its all great and fast, but 300 mhz is pathetic, even i know that. and when i get the motherboard how would i go about putting my windows xp in it? sorry guys im real new to hardware

Thanks again
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21. October 2006 @ 21:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ram, no as it is sdram with 2 key notches on bottom whereas new boards use either ddr ram with 1 notch or ddr2 ram. what videocard is that as i presume is an agp slot card?
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21. October 2006 @ 21:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
actually it is PCI, so i know i can put that in
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21. October 2006 @ 21:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes but it is slow. if get new system or new board that has integrated video which is better than pci video but not as good as agp or pci/e
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21. October 2006 @ 21:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
now im confused, i was looking for RAM and i pulled this up( http://cgi.ebay.com/256mb-Micron-PC2100-...tem140044355027 ) and it says ddr but i see 2 pieces on the bottom. ill get back to this tomorrow. thanks to everyone who is helping me out
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21. October 2006 @ 21:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
those are ddr ram as they have 1 notch in bottom.
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22. October 2006 @ 02:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Your old pc uses SD-Ram Most likely PC100 seeing the FSB on the P2 is 100mhz or 66mhz not 133mhz you will need new ram no matter what unless you break the slot showing it in and then turning it on and noticing smoke comming out, I doubt you will go for the 2nd option so you only have one left buy new ram the ram aint very expensive 79au here for 512mb DDR1








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22. October 2006 @ 05:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ill most likely gebuy more ram, now the last step, when i get the new motherboard, how would i install bios/OS? a website with a nice tutorial with pics would be nice, ive looked but couldnt find one simple enough for me. Thanks to everyone
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22. October 2006 @ 08:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
bios is the permanent memory of the motherboard. it is the os that you will have to install plus all your other programs. what size is your current hd?
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22. October 2006 @ 08:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well i have a 30gb and 13gb so that isnt a whole lot, at first i just wanted to get a new processor, but that led into building a whole new computer. so is it simple to install windows xp? i have the cd
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22. October 2006 @ 08:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
pretty well yes if you have loaded an os before. just follow what it asks & don't put a password in if you don't need one.
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22. October 2006 @ 10:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok thanks, now on to the technical crap in my other thread! thanks guys you really helped a lot
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