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LITEON SOHW-1633S Firmware Upgrade
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1. November 2006 @ 16:39 |
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I like and recommend the litey in my sig. As long as your drive recognizes and burns the media you're using ok, I don't see any reason for an upgrade unless you just want to.
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1. November 2006 @ 17:43 |
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@georgen
I have the same drive as yours and have the BSOY firmware on mine. It works fine with 16x disc.
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georgen
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1. November 2006 @ 18:31 |
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Mort81 and Larrylje,
Per Mort's suggestion, I performed the "1653S-CSOT Firmware upgrade on my LiteOn 1633S. After extracting all files in the RAR package, I used the executable, 1653.CSOT.patched-cf-fbd.exe (NOT the executable, 1653S-CSOT.patched-CF-fbd-mcled.exe, also in the package).
I then went ahead and burned a Memorex DVD-R, 16x disk. Unfortunately, the maximum burn rate (on this first disk) did not exceed, 8x; the same speed as with the LiteOn Firmware upgrade, BSOY.
I guess that's the speed I'll have to accept, at least on DVD-R, 16x media (don't know what the result on DVD+R, 16x media would be).
Thanks,
~g
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1. November 2006 @ 18:52 |
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Try some better media, verbatim or taiyo yuden for example. Did the flash take for sure? Is your drive now identified as a SOHW-1653S? Is your led red burn, green read now? I don't recommend burning 16x media over 8x, 12x max.
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georgen
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1. November 2006 @ 19:10 |
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Mort,
The flash definitely worked and yes, my drive is now identified as 1653S. However, I did not notice the LED colors when burning. I believe the color was only green but I'll be more observant next time.
Yes, I know that Memorex is not the best media, but that's the only 16x media I currently have (I have Tajyo Yuden but only 8x).
~g
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1. November 2006 @ 19:46 |
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I agree with MORT you should burn at half the rated speed of the disc anyway. Also better media.
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1. November 2006 @ 22:36 |
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Yanek
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6. November 2006 @ 08:32 |
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Hi Every One..
Have gotten some new Media Verbatims 16x and my Lite-On 1633s does not recognize them at all. Older slower 8x and lower media works fine..
Tried up dating the Firmware DR16BS0Y from Lite-On but get the following error.
Error Window
"No matched drive detected !
This utility is only for LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S drive.
Detected drives :
4-0-0-0 E:LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S BGS4"
I Removed/Unistalled the DVD driver under Device Manager,
and rebooted it came up the same way.
Trying the Omni Patcher but the Link is Dead or site Down,
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Software...x?ProgramId=334
Any Help Thanks,
Yanek
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6. November 2006 @ 09:17 |
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Yanek,
That firmware that you have now (BGS4) is not official lite-on firmware. Did your SOHW-1633S come preinstalled in your pc when you got it? It is probably some f/w provided by the pc manufacturer eg. dell, gateway, or emachines. You will need to look at the webpage of whoever makes your pc for a f/w update for your model drive or flash your drive with some patched official lite-on f/w. You should be able to flash it with the same f/w I provided for georgen upgrading it to a SOHW-1653S or you can use this patched f/w BS0Y - patched - crossflashing, multi-colored LED (for 1213S, 1613S, etc.) located here http://codeguys.rpc1.org/firmwares.html
Omnipatcher should also allow you to crossflash to official lite-on f/w. Here's another link http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=97590
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georgen
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11. November 2006 @ 11:38 |
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A follow-up to Mort81, Larrylie and others.
Subject: LiteOn 1633S with BSOY Firmware Upgrade, now a LiteOn 1653S.
1. Successfully burned three DVD's using Memorex DVD-R, 16x media (not my favorite media but all I had readily available). The maximum burn rate did not exceed 8.1.
2. Using Nero 6.0 (full edition) in Express Mode, attempted to copy one of the above DVD's. After several uncessfull attempts at creating an image onto the hard drive, it finally created the image. However, upon inserting a blank Memorex DVD-R, 16x disk, it failed on two consecutive attempts, somewhere around the 85% completion point. Of course, the disks had to be discarded.
3. Today I retried copying a DVD as above. Again, the image burn phase was successful, achieving a maximum burn rate of nearly 11x. However, this time, I inserted a Taiyo Yuden DVD-R, 8X blank disk and as I expected, Nero successfully copied the DVD.
So, what is there to be learned from this excercise?
A. Is it that Nero 6.0 will accept 16x media (after a "learn-in" process) but only copy 8x media, NOT 16x media?
B. Is it that Nero 6.0 doesn't like Memorex DVD-R, 16x and maybe will copy to another brand of 16x (such as Ritek or Taiyo Yuden)?
C. Or is there a later version of Nero that will eliminate the above annoyances?
Best regards,
georgen
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11. November 2006 @ 13:48 |
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Hi georgen
The burn speed & recognition of the media is controlled by the drive thru the firmware. The drive utilizes programs that you use like Nero which does a power calibration test for the power needed to burn and smart burn (LiteOn's support this & in Nero is usually enabled by default) which determines the burn speed.
These are done through out the burn process - reason the burn speed fluxates. Trying to achieve best results.
So your drive may do well with 16x media just not the ones you are using. Memorex uses different manufacturers so results may vary. Those 16x may have been made by Ritek or a # of other manufacturers.
Pop a blank in the drive then go to NeroToolKit>CD-DVD Speed>Disc Info tab. You'll see who the actually manufacturer is.
I'd stick w/ Taiyo or Verbatims.
If you using 6.0 then update to 6.6.0.18:
Package 1
http://httpdl1.usw.nero.com/software/Ner....0.18_no_yt.exe
Package 2 (recode, vision)
http://httpdl1.usw.nero.com/software/Nero6/NVE-3.1.0.21_no_yt.exe
The update probably won't help the Memorex burn though.
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georgen
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12. November 2006 @ 06:42 |
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Hi binkie7 and thank you for your informative follow-up.
I performed the Nero Speed Disc test and found that my "Memorex DVD-R, 16x" is really a "CMC Magnetics, 8x" media... surprise, surprise!!!
Furthermore, according to digitalFAQ.com, it is really very poor, 4th rate quality media. DigitalFAQ.com states:
"4TH CLASS MEDIA:
Pathetic garbage media, landfill material, about 0-50% success rate. These discs are pretty much only suited for preventing drink cup rings from forming on a table. Most of the time, these are ready-made coasters. If you can actually get a burner to acknowledge the disc, do not expect much. And if the burn actually succeeds, do not be surprised if a DVD-ROM or player chokes on the disc (read/play errors). Cheap prices, cheap junk quality."
So... I now have about 30 more coasters!!!
That said, knowing what you know about my firmware upgrade, would you be reasonably confident to say that either Taiyo or Verbatim 16X media would work, i.e., burn at 16X on my LiteOn 1633S, upgraded to 1653S ? As you no doubth know, price differences between 8X and 16X are significant. For your info, here are some prices on Inkjet Printable, DVD-R, 16X and 8X, 100-pack spindle media.
Taiyo Yuden
16X: $39 8X: $33
Verbatim "DataLifePlus" (presume highest quality???)
16X: $56 8X: $37
Ritek
16X: $29 8X: $26
These are the current prices from Rima.com, an online distributer I'm been using for some time and am quite satisfied with. As you can see, Ritek is significantly cheaper than the other two. Also know that in the past, I've used Ritek 8X without any failure (as well as Taiyo of course). However, now with my dirve upgraded to 16X, it would be nice to burn at the higher rate.
Your thoughts are very much appreciated.
georgen
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12. November 2006 @ 06:59 |
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@georgen
Again as suggested to you before and I will suggest it again on the speed of burning. Even tho you have 16x rated DVD's it is best to slow the speed down by half or at least 1 step down from the rated speed the media is.
If you have 4th class media then yes getting some 1st class media Verbatim/TY's should let you burn at the speed it is rated (Thats if your drive can burn at that speed) But it is recommended that you do not burn at Max speed on your media.
You could also check prices on the online media store that I go to which I have never had any problems with...
http://www.supermediastore.com
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12. November 2006 @ 07:10 |
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georgen,
Quote:
I performed the Nero Speed Disc test and found that my "Memorex DVD-R, 16x" is really a "CMC Magnetics, 8x" media... surprise, surprise!!!
And I wonder why you were having problems. Stay far far away from memorex (aka as memosux).
As a rule of thumb, most recommend burning at 1/2 the rated speed of the media. You can probably get away with burning high quality 8x rated media (verbatim or taiyo yuden) at 8x and high quality 16x rated media at 12x. I'm not saying you can't successfully burn 16x rated media at 16x, but everything needs to be just right and the chance for errors increases dramatically.
With that older drive I would not recommend burning over 12x (8x prefered). I have two very up to date drives, a 3.4 ghz cpu OC'd to 3.6 and 2 gb of corsair XMS dual channel memory and even I don't burn 16x rated media at 16x. 12x on occassion but usually 8x.
At least we made progress and your drive (after the crossflash) will now recognize 16x rated media. That's a big plus.
Some other very respectable online places to buy media are http://www.newegg.com/index.asp?DEPA=0 http://www.meritline.com/ and http://rima.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv Those prices you gave are way to high.
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georgen
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12. November 2006 @ 07:28 |
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Thank you Mort81, larrylie and binkie7.
I NOW get the message... do **NOT** burn at 16X!
Going forward, I'll pruchase 8X media (either TY or Verbatim), and burn at 8X, or purchase 16X media (TY or Verbatim), and burn at 8X (not even 12X... the difference in time is insignificant).
You've been most helpful... great having such a team!
georgen
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