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l34merik
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30. November 2006 @ 09:50 |
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@GTR35
alrite I'll brush you up on a little bit of history on why AMD's are named like that.
Back when P4 were out, they had high clock speeds that AMD processors couldn't reach like 3.4ghz. Don't take me wrong, the AMD's were more efficient though so something like a 2.6 ghz Althon 64 could compete circles around the 3.4GHz P4.
The average consumer didn't know about efficiency though. To them they thought getting the higher clock speed would mean better perfermance even if it's from different manufacterers. So AMD's market was really bad because they only had around ~2.2GHz while Intel had around ~3Ghz. So that's when the marketing guys thought of a name for their AMD models so people would have a better understanding of how fast their processors were.
Lets say for example, the 3400+.
The 3400 represents the intel equivalent of 3400mhz or 3.4Ghz. That means this processor is the same or about the same as a P4 3.4ghz.
The + represents that it's an AMD processor. I think the + is just marketing.
They also had althons and semprons. The 2400+ was meant to compete with the P4 2.4GHz and the sempron 3100+ competes with a 3.1ghz celeron.
The AMD name maketing is kind of outdated now because duo core and core 2 duo came out. Because a althon 5000+ is suppose to be an intel equvalent of a 5ghz P4 not a 5ghz Pentinum D or Core 2 duo. I would only use this system to compare to P4's or among other AMD processors.
I think that's about it, I'm in a hurry so there is a lot of mis-spellings and stuff, but I think what I said is understandable right?
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30. November 2006 @ 10:09 |
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Originally posted by l34merik:
@GTR35
alrite I'll brush you up on a little bit of history on why AMD's are named like that.
oooooo...ok i c now...why they do that...so my sempron 3100+ is like celeron...ok i c thnx
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30. November 2006 @ 14:35 |
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it will urinate from a great height all over a celeron, sorry but it will.
my semp 3400+ @2.41ghz benchmarks higher than a 3.2ghz pentium. ok its oced and the p4 will go higher, but how many celerons will bench higher than an athlon?
i realy would like to know as i cant seem to find any bench results for the celerons to compare with.
my 3dmark06 cpu score - 927 points
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woodTHING
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30. November 2006 @ 18:22 |
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30. November 2006 @ 19:12 |
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Really I am nobody... But the old athrons rocked [well so does the next '64'] but the semprons in my opion are weak and are designed for the mases- I had a athron 2.2 and w/ out knowing ran it at 75% heat... my God for a 6 mth time no Intel would handle that- ran daul screens and many progrms.... I laugh now but I really did not know intill WELL someone helped me LOL the old athrons are worth keeping- they are power dogs, where the semprons in my opinion where desiged to do different- but they lacked ...unlesds you OC
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l34merik
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30. November 2006 @ 19:29 |
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Yea I was really planning on getting an Althon 64 X2 but then Core 2 Duo came out. Ask me 6 months ago and I would've said AMD was the best but now I would say Core 2 Duo because they're about the same price, but the performance is killer plus they overclock like crazy too.
@marsey99
Well that sempron is like a 3.4 celeron and overclocked, I would guess it would be at around 3.9Ghz celeron. But I don't really think it could beat a 3.2 P4 w/ HT. Maybe but once you overclock the P4 the sempron would lose that's for sure. I am curious though, you should get PCMark05 and post a screenshot.
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l34merik
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30. November 2006 @ 19:31 |
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Oh yea I forgot, if you're willing to wait for a little bit, you could get AMD's quad core over Intel's quad core. Theoretically, AMD's quad core is true quad core while Intel's is just two dualcore dies on a chip (or something like that) so AMD will get the perfermance clown back later.
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30. November 2006 @ 19:51 |
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ya I would argee... Itel has the upper hand now... I beleive AMD is holding out due to... WELL WHO KNOWS LOL... but really I am loyal to no one... The best for the lest- is my moto!!!
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30. November 2006 @ 21:17 |
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hahaha...i just want a new rig...that i can play games and media on wif no problem...but it looks like Intel can cure my problem...
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30. November 2006 @ 22:17 |
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yep... so far spec's speacking Itel will do... but you never know when the botton will fall- paid $365 for my chip... two mouths later or so, Itel came out with their stuff and my chip went to $185- could get cheaper if I really looked now, but thats how it goes-Damn wish I had more money LOL
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30. November 2006 @ 22:47 |
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ya...i want a rig that can last bout 5 years...or maybe 3 years before i upgrade it again...
SEX
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1. December 2006 @ 00:05 |
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1. December 2006 @ 00:13 |
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yes that case looks cool...it should be able to cool ur rig down to -2c...
SEX
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1. December 2006 @ 01:58 |
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i edited a few posts on page 2 as the page margins were out, then i found a couple malformed newegg url's. as you were people :)
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1. December 2006 @ 06:41 |
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Motherboard: ASUS-A8N32 SLI 1GB Memory ChiefMax-PSU 550w Dual XFX 6800xt Audigy2-zs Platinum Thermaltake BigTyphoon Modified with a 110cfm silverstone 120mm fan NEC 3550a Burner 5 case fans 300gb of networked space and dual crt screen's
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1. December 2006 @ 07:03 |
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damn...these mobo r good...but i still like aVGA/Asus 680i
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mmz16x
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1. December 2006 @ 07:07 |
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The best motherboard ive ever used is the ol p3b-f by asus old p3 board but stable as hell currently im running my a8n32-sli with a amd64 3200+ OC to 2.6ghz from 2ghz i will start using my new x2 when my thermal paste arrives in mail :P
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jackripp
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1. December 2006 @ 07:41 |
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Hey Guys I have a Dell XPS, its somewhat old I think it was a intel 4 3.6. How hard and or expensive would it be to upgrade the processor to say a quad core? Or duo core? Thanks I really appreciate any help.
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1. December 2006 @ 11:52 |
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@herrick
my new psu is not as stable for ocing as my old hiper was so i can now only get to 2.36ghz so now i only get 908.
but this was as high as it went with the hiper.
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mmz16x
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1. December 2006 @ 12:02 |
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jackripp is your p4 cpu a socket 775 or 478 u need 775 for core 2 i think and im guessing here that most boards being those in XPS are high end enough to if yours is 775 take a core 2 but i might be wrong in some small way or so gimme your model # of your XPS so i can better help you m8
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1. December 2006 @ 12:02 |
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Cool... as soon as I get a cooler for my CPU I am going to OC it- should beable to get 2.7 hopfully- what you think
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1. December 2006 @ 12:07 |
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pc building here, you want to get the artic cooling freezer 64 pro is the hsf you want to get.
overclocking here.
save the mods going ape.
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1. December 2006 @ 12:25 |
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thanks I will use that place when I am ready- that cooler was mentioned early to me and I have it on a list.... Need sound card first
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1. December 2006 @ 15:35 |
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@jackripp
you need to check with dell for compatibility with your mobo.
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1. December 2006 @ 17:56 |
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Originally posted by woodTHING:
ok i wanna upgrade my system a lil i was thinkin of goin for a new mobo and processor. im a lil bit on abudget thought like between $250-300. i went lookin on newegg for some stuff and pulled these off http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819115004
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813135026
the reviews of them look good but if theres nething better i could get for around the same price ill prolly go for that. and i also wanted to go for a sli board
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two things, Im not sure how old your current setup is but im guessing you have IDE hard drives and maybe an AGP graphics card. The new mobo you are looking at uses PCI-Express video cards, and will support 4 ide devices along with 4 SATA. Just makin sure your other old products will be compatible.
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