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25. September 2007 @ 17:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Is a LCD Monitor,pretty much the same as an LCD TV...

No...The Monitors are usually capable of Higher Resolutions...I have the 24" Gateway...Love it...I have a DTV-HD receiver Hooked up to it...Looks Great...A lot of people like the 30 Dell for a bigger Monitor..

I am looking at this Ram...Looks like a good deal...
Crucial 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
Special edition limited supplies, SLI-Ready

$99.99 ($74.99 after $25.00 Mail-In Rebate) 3 Business Day Shipping $4.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148144


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25. September 2007 @ 18:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lp531 you make me giggle with that wiggle room you got going on.... :P

Nice looking but as usual don't know anything about it. What are you gonna run for an OS?? If I understand correctly you can't run more than 3GB of RAM on a 32 bit OS. Is that right? If so you gonna add 2 512 sticks or just go with the 2gig? Sorry I'm so simple when it comes to this area of the puter. :)

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25. September 2007 @ 19:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just the 2GB...Going to run XP...Want to build a New Gaming Rig before Xmas...680I board with a 8800GTS 640MB version...

I'm getting ready to build a HTCP computer with Vista...Thats what the HD2600XT is for...Still trying to decide on a case...Looking at the Silverstone's...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLis...ame=Silverstone

Thinking the Crown Series...
CW01
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163086

CW02
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163084

Or the Lascala Series...
LC20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163065

Or the New Grandia...
http://www.sundialmicro.com/silverstone_...r_1699_902.html

Or the...To Hell with the Cash Model...Custom Made to Your MB...
http://www.atechfabrication.com/products/heatsync_6000.htm


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25. September 2007 @ 23:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In the large screen arena you've got these options:

32" and above LCD TV: 1366x768 resolution until you hit 40", then 1920x1080
30" Dell monitor: 2560x1600 resolution

The TV has a lower res, but can be bigger, and will support all manner of devices attached to it

The 30" monitor has a huge res, and looks awesome for playing games on, but can only ever be attached to a PC, nothing else.



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26. September 2007 @ 08:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Monitors in general have a finer pixel pitch(dot pitch in CRTs), compared to that of a TV. Even if you don't get the 1920 x 1080 on the smaller monitors, the image quality should still be on par or better than a LCD TV. I am personally running my HTPC to a 32" Toshiba LCD TV. With the prices of LCD tv's coming down continuously especially for the 720P models, its almost hard to shell out the same amount for a monitor only solution. Don't get me wrong though many center their Home Theater around large LCD monitors because the quality of the picture... and since many of those monitors accept HDMI, DVI, and Component ins, you can can hookup a slew of AV gear to it or better yet, feed it all through a Surround AMP/Receiver for "ease" of use.
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26. September 2007 @ 13:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Since LCD,HDTV came about,terminologies have changed drastically.Why just yesterday all U had to know .28 DPI was the best,Contrast,Brightness adjusted your TV,just the was U liked it.Now its black levels by certain ratios,resolution 1020 blah blah,pixalate,ms response etc.But things sure are lookin up.except for Cars,& Gasoline.Why we're even electing Smarter Presidents...HAhahaaaaaa
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Actually no, there was more to it than size and dpi, the resolution and refresh rates were useful too. 2048x1536 at 60Hz was all well and good, but 85Hz would have been far easier on the eyes.



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26. September 2007 @ 17:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sammorris..Well any-who ya got my g-est..I try to go over 75 Hertz I get out of range message
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26. September 2007 @ 19:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
2x1GB DDR2 800MHz Desktop Memory $55 after rebate

A pair of Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800MHz desktop computer memory is on sale for $95 with free shipping, after using promo code EMC925SYME01 , and a $40 mail-in rebate is available.

(missed this deal by ---> <---- that much)

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http://www.bestbuy.com/
page 22 of their Sunday flyer

Seagate-500GB Internal Ultra ATA/100 Hard Drive-ST3500641A-RK
$106.99 tx included
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27. September 2007 @ 02:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Cheap, especially so for best buy.



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sammorris..shame on U..inexpensive!
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well SoRRY!



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27. September 2007 @ 11:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's ultra ATA not sereal ATA though. no thanks.

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Ah of course, no wonder it's cheap.



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Does anybody here buy the serial ata ? I Think not !!!
the cheapest I'VE Found at 500 gig
HP 395473-B21 500GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - Retail
$599.99
And its only got a 1 yr warranty
The next best thing I think is SATA 3.0Gb/s..Isn't this faster rate,then serial ATA
106 bucks for 500 gig is still a good buy..very cheap "oops" inexpensive
So GOOD BYE EVERYBODY

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27. September 2007 @ 15:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
rick,

SATA stands for serial ATA. there is SATA which has a transfer rate of 1.5 and then there is SATA2 which has a transfer rate of 3.0. SATA2 is less expensive now because it is mainstream and they will work with older mobo's that were only SATA, only the transfer rate will only be 1.5.

price wise it's kinda like DDR ram and DDR2 ram. even though the DDR2 ram is faster it is mainstream and therefor doesn't cost as much as DDR ram does now. DDR is almost obsolete now days. just like 1.5 SATA.

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S-ATA is barely any more money than U-ATA, and is much better. I've no idea where you got that price tag from. You're a fool if you buy IDE drives new when you have a choice.



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sammorris..What choice do U have
I do have a basic concept on SATA 1.5 vs 2.0 etc.
But not quite geeky yet didn't realize their were 2 types,ultra ATA & serial ATA
But ya just don't get enough connections on mother boards.Maybe 2 IDE which only allow for 4 units or the max Sata I've seen is 6 which are singular hook-ups
But that serial ATA was at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLis...tk=&srchInDesc=

Excuse me guys but I'm just gonna get off the subject.B4 to many cans of worms get opened
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27. September 2007 @ 17:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it cost so much because it is serial ATA 150 which means the transfer rate is only 1.5 g/s. just as I described above, the early 1.5 transfer rate serial ATA drives cost more because they are no longer mainstream and SATA 3.0 or SATA2, whatever you want to call them, will work with all SATA mobos and have replaced the SATA 150's which are now obsolete.

if you need more SATA connectors, SATA cards are dirt cheap. if more storage is needed, most just upgrade to larger hdd's to replace their existing. there is always the option though to add a SATA card and more hdd's.

Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435

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Some DFI boards have 8 S-ATA ports, and integrated RAID5. Some Asus boards such as the A8N-SLI Premium had 8 as well I think.



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Thought that I would link to the 500GB SATA 3.0Gb/s at newegg.com for everyone that is interested. They are all priced below $149.99 and a few are less than $110. :)

Take into the equation that these are backwards compatible with the 1.5Gb/s mobos and work like a champ. :D

rick I hope that no one offended you and I'm sure it wasn't meant that way. :) I linked to some great deals and of course there's other online retailers like zipzoomfly.com and tigerdirect.com.

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no offense was intended by any means. I was simply trying to explain the reason for high prices of SATA 150 hdd's.

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By no means was I offended,I thought maybe I was offending some here.This site has been a great asset to me.Afterdawn over all has showed me a lot of help over the years on equipment to programs to best media.Also the best site for all the how toos
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Im planning to build a new computer in December and ive made one up through the parts from my cousins friends store.
What im aiming for is to run Colin Mc Rae DIRT on high without lag would this system do it?
And do you think it is GOod
Nothing can be chnaged to anything more epxensive as its already too much for me but i will manage.


Intel DG33TLM Motherboard


Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 CPU, 3.0 GHz


Seagate 320GB 'ST3320620AS' SATA II 3Gb/s


corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX 2GB (2x XMS2 1GB) PC-6400 (800MHz) DDR2 RAM,

Sony SATA BLACK AWG170SB2 Internal DL Multiformat


Inno3D GF 8600GT PCI-E 512MB DDR2 PCI-E

750W "SilverStone" ST75F Power Supply
Antec "Nine Hundred" Tower Gaming Case with Side Window











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