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23. November 2007 @ 21:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I thought of buying the faster 8500Mhz, but buying faster RAM hasnt really helped me with my current build (Asus A8N32-SLI-Deluxe, Opteron 185 @2.8, PC3500). I either havent been explained to properly about OC'ing memory, havent cared once I was stable with FSB multipliers, or skipped class that day.

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23. November 2007 @ 21:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
From what I've heard though, that's not common. Crucial may be good with their rebates, but a lot of companies supposedly don't give a monkey's behind.



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Hmm, maybe I just haven't had good luck. Although I didn't get my XFX rebates, because it supposedly wasn't in by time. Ok this migh take a little long to explain so I'll summarize.

My rebates were POSTMARKED(which is what it required) two days before the time was up. The lady from the rebate center tries to pull one on me by saying I didn't get it in on time. Later on she admits that it was postmarked on time but they got it later and it entered their suystem too late, even though it only mentioned POSTMARKED date on the rebate form. With all the bullshit they were trying to pull coupled with the fact that it took her on average NINETEEN days per ONE email to respond, I just gave up.

On another note Black Friday electronic deals weren't that great. Although I did buy a nice black shirt, sweater, and hoodie!
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I have to admit, MIR are a pain in the a$$ but I am yet to get burned on any and I have sent in a bunch. I get the paperwork all done right after I place the order and as soon as I recieve the merchandise, I cut out the bar code and put it in the preprepared envelope along with the paperwork and mail it the next day.

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24. November 2007 @ 03:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am building a pc for a buddy...he is wanting the best bang for his buck...He will never play a Game...or Encode a Movie...
This is for a Home Office PC that is on...pretty much 24/7...his concerns are Power Consumption...Noise...and being...Future Proof for upgrades...Penryn...DDR3...
This is what I came up with...his budget is $600...with some wiggle room...

PC POWER & COOLING / OCZ TECHNOLOGY S61EPS SILENCER 610 EPS12V ATX ULTRA-QUIET POWER SUPPLY
$106.99
http://www.compuplus.com/i-PC-Power-Cool...bzudyhy432f4zbo

or this...price is almost the same...with tax and shipping...with-in $7...

CORSAIR POWERSUPPLY ATX EPS12V CMPSU-550VX VX SERIES 550W PS 2
$88.60
http://www.cesell.com/product.php?productid=141829

GIGABYTE GA-P35C-DS3R Intel Core 2 Duo (Desktop) Socket 775 1333MHz FSB DDR3 1066MHz ATX Motherboard Retail
$133.98
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDet...st=pricegrabber

Seagate 320GB Serial ATA/300 16MB Buffer ST303204N1A1AS-RK - Retail Hard Drive Kit Seagate:
FRYS.com #: 5296757
$59.99
http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5296757...CH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail
$189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115029

Foxconn 8500GT-256 GeForce 8500 GT 256MB PCI Express Video Card Retail
$69.98 with $35 rebate $34.98
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDet...ductCode=333037

or this...

MSI RX2600XT Diamond Radeon HD 2600XT 256MB 128-bit GDDR4 PCI Express x16 OC Edition HDMI HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
$134.99 after $20 rebate $114.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127305

He has Memory...Crucial Ballistic PC-8500...DVD Drive...and Case...

What do you guys think?..
Were could I make an Improvement...or...save some Cash...

As shown...
$626 on the high end...with a $20 rebate...
$543 on the low end...with a $35 rebate...


Does not include Tax or shipping...


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LP531 ,I would try to talk him into DDR2 memory instead of the pricey DDR3. he could always upgrade later when it came down in price




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24. November 2007 @ 04:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Zoso
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I would try to talk him into DDR2 memory instead of the pricey DDR3. he could always upgrade later when it came down in price


My sentiments exactly...I just had him buy the DDR2 memory...
The Gigabyte M/B supports...both DDR2 & DDR3...and the Penryn...that is the main reason I went with it...

I added on the HD2600XT OC...because I do not really like the 8500...it was just the cheapest...decent card...I could find...
I figured he might be able to use this PC as a whole house media server...and the HD2600...with an additional Video Capture Card and DVD Drive upgrades...would give him future HD/DVD...Blueray/DVD...and HD-VMD playback capability's...


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24. November 2007 @ 07:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That sounds like a great build from that perspective, but if he's concerned about noise you should get a fanless graphics card (I'm assuming his existing case is quiet or the whole thing is pointless)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121093
Go with the Corsair PSU too, it's much quieter.



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24. November 2007 @ 08:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Unfortunately I have some bad news regarding Flight sim X:
firstly, SLI and Crossfire don't work with it. Secondly, the game is completely CPU limited, and locked to the drivers. Consequently with an E6850, nvidia cards are locked to a max of 25fps, and ATI cards locked to a maximum of 20fps (but most of the time don't exceed 18)

The HD3870 is better than the 8800GT in my opinion almost all the time, but for Flight Sim X, a single nvidia card is pretty much the only way the game is at all playable at most settings. ATI drivers simply can't handle the game.
Good find there sam. Where did you find the info btw? I searched for a while and got fed up with the nonsense on the game. Obviously my Google skills aren't as good as yours. hehehe. :P

Originally posted by Morty:
I have to admit, MIR are a pain in the a$$ but I am yet to get burned on any and I have sent in a bunch. I get the paperwork all done right after I place the order and as soon as I receive the merchandise, I cut out the bar code and put it in the preprepared envelope along with the paperwork and mail it the next day.
As do I and an AMEN to that. lol. I"ve been lucky so far with respect to MIR and I hope that I continue to be. Right now I"m waiting for about 5 rebates from Cooler Master. :D

Like you fellas I was surprised to see the LACK of real deals from the online retailers but I found a couple at the B&M stores that I frequent. ;)

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24. November 2007 @ 08:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Most of my performance figures come from the Tom's Hardware Guide VGA Charts.




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24. November 2007 @ 08:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mort81:
I have to admit, MIR are a pain in the a$$ but I am yet to get burned on any and I have sent in a bunch

The only thing burning was my temper when I figured out I didnt turn something in on time. I look at it as an attempt to teach self-discipline.


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Antec 900...so that kills any noise issues...LOL..:)
All case fans will be on a controller...so that should help...
The computer is not in his TV room...so noise not really an issue...


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24. November 2007 @ 08:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Left standard the 900 is mediocre from a noise perspective, because even on low the fans spin too fast. However, it has excellent potential to be quiet because of the number and size of the fans, and using a fan controller can be kept pretty much silent.



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24. November 2007 @ 09:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
They should make a 900 without the window...it would make it quieter...

@Deadrum33
That Armour look like a nice design...a ton of 3.5 drive spaces...using excellent airflow principles...definitely the nicest of the cases suggested...


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24. November 2007 @ 09:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I disagree, that flies in the face of what makes the 900 what it is. Firstly, unless you put a fan on the side it won't vibrate, and since there'll be no air going through it it won't contribute to the noise produced. Secondly, the front fans are exposed through grilles so are easily audible even if they're quiet fans (which they aren't). There is a modified P182 with a side window and it's hardly any noisier than the regular P182, and the only reason it is noiser is because the hard soundproofing is removed, not for any other reason.



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24. November 2007 @ 09:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Lp531:
@Deadrum33... That Armour look like a nice design...a ton of 3.5 drive spaces...using excellent airflow principles...definitely the nicest of the cases suggested...

I wasnt sold on the fact that every drive bay cover was the see through mesh, I'm used to solid faceplate on front and see through sides, but I figure I'll just throw some extra blue fans in all that space and light it up. It really was about finding the best deal, not just something new and sexy (yeah right) :P

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Heh, you can forget new, pretty much everybody on afterdawn's got a 900 now...



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Not me! I want one though.
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You forgot about the wonderful acoustic quality of Plexiglas...thats what increases the noise...My wavemaster is significantly quieter without the window...all windows add some noise...
Your right about No window being against the nature of the 900...The case hardly screams...Office PC...LOL...


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You say that, but mine's used as a fileserver. Hardly a rip-roaring Mhz eating application for it...



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24. November 2007 @ 11:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Lp,


No games so a reliable, fanless video card:

SAPPHIRE 100173L Radeon X1550 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161182



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Frank, that board has both DDR2 and DDR3 sockets. They are different sockets so both kinds of memory will work.
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Abuzar,
I edited my post to reflect that.
I don't think DDR 3 would ever be needed considering the intent.



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After I posted I looked at the ICH9R vs the ICH9 chipset and sure enough, the ICH9R supports both.
I also noticed that the specifications emphasised using only memory from the supported list. The list is fairly large, so it's likely that it will support Lp's friends memory.

BTW, I have all my parts on the way for my Gigabyte AM2+/Phenom build.
I did manage to get a pair of 3870 video cards from Dell (of all places). They should be here before the 12th of December. Did you see the prices jumping up on these? I got mine for $225.00 each.



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24. November 2007 @ 12:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
fasfrank I just had to post this link. :D

What a good find on the 3870. I'm glad I'm a few steps from that new system for myself. :)

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