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7. December 2007 @ 15:54 |
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I'm thinking it might be wiser to wait and pick up 2 gb more at some point, even though xp won't recognize it all, since I may upgrade to a different os later (or use the next 2 gb to start building another system - ha).
@schpoogle
That is what I usually Do...
The more memory you have...the slower the Overclock...this goes for number of sticks...as well as size of sticks...however...you want at least (2) sticks...so...you can run in dual channel mode...
@greensman
The deal on the EVO is a great buy...$119 after $60 rebate...The deal on the CM P/S is Ok...I still think the best buy is...the Corsair 550 for...$75 after a $15 rebate...you do not have to shell out as much money initially...nor do you have to wait for as much to come back...there is only a $5 difference between the (2) after rebate...You should also look at the Enermax Chakra...or...Uber Chakra...In my opinion some of the best cases for Cooling and Noise...they are an incredible cases for the price...
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a person should never have to fill that case to max fan capacity anyway
God...I would certainly hope not...LOL..:)
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7. December 2007 @ 16:37 |
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Originally posted by Lp531:
@greensman
The deal on the EVO is a great buy...$119 after $60 rebate...The deal on the CM P/S is Ok...I still think the best buy is...the Corsair 550 for...$75 after a $15 rebate...you do not have to shell out as much money initially...nor do you have to wait for as much to come back...there is only a $5 difference between the (2) after rebate...You should also look at the Enermax Chakra...or...Uber Chakra...In my opinion some of the best cases for Cooling and Noise...they are an incredible cases for the price...
I'm looking and haven't found the Corsair for $75 yet. :P I like the Corsairs and I like the single rail system too. If I remember right the Chakra cases only have room for 4 ODD's right?? Looking on that too. ;)
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7. December 2007 @ 17:17 |
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Since there are more people checking this thread out, you guys mind finding me better prices on my build? (try and include p&p like i have done)
System Specs Now -
Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 S775 2.66ghz 4mb Cache 1333FSB
£109.90
PSU - Corsair HX 520W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant PSU
£64.45 (Ebay)
GPU - NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT
£163.19 (May be just under £200.00 due to the price here being from Amazon with a pre order time of 1 to 2 months)
RAM (Memory) - Corsair 2GB DDR2 XMS2-6400C4 TwinX (2x1GB) 800Mhz
£38.90
Hard Drive - 400 GB Samsung HD403LJ Spinpoint T166, SATA II, 7200 rpm, 16MB Cache, 8.9 ms
£61.44
Optical Drive - LG 18x GSA-H66NBAL DVD±R, 10x DVD±DL, DVD+RW x8/-RW x6, DVD-RAM x12, SATA, Black, OEM
£17.74
Case - Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gamer Case
£68.40
MotherBoard - Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R
£71.45
Cooling - For CPU
Thermalright Ultra-120A
£25.83
Fan for CPU - 120mm Scythe S-FLEX SFF21F Fan 1600 RPM
£12.33
Total = £634.63
Without Cooling = £596.47
Im flexible on say the Hard Drive(but i want atleast 300gb)
Not sure about the Thermalright Ultra-120A, reviews said the fan was hard to mount.
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7. December 2007 @ 17:28 |
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7. December 2007 @ 17:38 |
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Originally posted by greensman:
I'm looking and haven't found the Corsair for $75 yet. :P I like the Corsairs and I like the single rail system too. If I remember right the Chakra cases only have room for 4 ODD's right?? Looking on that too. ;)
....gm
now what ya gonna do with all them(9) drives? cuz i wanna see them burn at once..lol
on the gigabyte board im getting it only has 1 ide/pata hookup. is there a pci card i can buy if i need to use my pata hard drives if i cant get the sata HDD right now? i know there is but i dont know what they are called?
as far as optical drives is the sata drive any better than the ide drives? what are the benefits to the sata ODD's?
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7. December 2007 @ 17:46 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
what are the benefits to the sata ODD's?
Master/ slave issues?
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7. December 2007 @ 17:53 |
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7. December 2007 @ 17:56 |
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7. December 2007 @ 18:37 |
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Schpoogle: Just running 4 sticks causes the issue to a certain extent. The fact that you run different size sticks shouldn't matter. The big performance hit, however, occurs when you only use three sticks. Never do that.
Greensman: An 850W Coolermaster? Call me a sceptic, but something tells me that unit would fall over and die long before 850W. I'm sorry, but I just don't think Coolermaster can reach that figure from a standard ATX power supply. The 1KW OCZ units fail and shut down around the 800W mark, and I rate OCZ above Coolermaster, without a doubt. Now consider that no PC will ever use anywhere near that amount. It just won't, full stop.
He_Man: Arctic silver is worth three times as much as it costs. You can use it on any heatsink (a friend of mine redid the peltier heatsink on his mini-fridge with the stuff, but of course you can also use it for GPUs, Motherboard chipsets and probably even MOSFETs) but CPUs is the main application.
The build loks awesome. I personally think the exact opposite of REAM on the DVD drive. LG drives are great, Samsung ones suck on certain body parts.
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7. December 2007 @ 18:43 |
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Deadrum, the case is awesome! The only complaint I would have is that there is no removable motherboard tray.
I'm still in the process, will let you know when done.
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7. December 2007 @ 18:45 |
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@Rob & Deadrum
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what are the benefits to the sata ODD's?
No Big Ribbon Cable is what most people like about them...just the small SATA Cable...and faster transfer speeds...they just make for a all around cleaner build...
@greensman
The Corsair 550 was at Zipzoomfly...The Chakra is $29 at Newegg right now...I am ordering one Right now...best price I have ever seen on one...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLis...=chakra&x=0&y=0
Chakra
External 5.25" Drive Bays 5
External 3.5" Drive Bays 1
Internal 3.5" Drive Bays 4
Expansion Slots 7
The Uber Chakra is even bigger...
They just Raised the Chakra by $5...so...they just lost a sale!!!
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this is kinda off topic here but will post a link for everyone to check out
I think that thread is a Great Idea...however...I Swore...I would Never post in the Safety Valve Again...so...you will only see me posting Here...or in your shout box...
AD wants to kill the Safety Valve...and as we Found Out...AD Is Not a Democracy...The Rules will be Selectively Enforced...or Ignored...
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7. December 2007 @ 19:41 |
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Originally posted by He_Man:
http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/-/699/906/-/3434342/OCZ-StealthXStream-600W-Power-Supply-Unit-PSU-120mm-Fan/Product.html?searchtype=genre
This PSU looks pretty good(besides the Corsair) with alot more connections than the Corsair i think.
OCZ PSUs are very good. and if i can remember they are made by PC Power and Cooling (IMO the best PSU manuafacturers)
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7. December 2007 @ 19:45 |
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I read this in a review of the PSU,
Even though OCZ paid to have its own UL number, this power supply is really manufactured by FSP. FSP name was printed on the power supply printed circuit board.
But? Wait a minute! This printed circuit board (FSP part number 3BS0110312GP) is exactly the same one used by OCZ GameXstream 700 W and Zalman ZM600-HP! Are they all the same product with a different name?
Tooken from,
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/451
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7. December 2007 @ 19:51 |
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OCZ owns PCP&C...OCZ P/S are made by Fortron...PCP&C has started subbing the manufacturing of there P/S out to Seasonic...however...the design is exclusive to PCP&C...so...you will not find a PCP&C P/S under any other name...
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7. December 2007 @ 21:19 |
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Thanks for that Lp. lol. Glad I read the updated thread before I posted. ;)
Have you heard anything about the Corsair VX 550W Lp531? Other than the EGG that is. :D I might just have to pull the trigger on that one. I'm guessing that it'll do what I want it too. Remember it's gonna push at least 6 ODD's, 3 HDD's, a HD3850 gfx card or similar and at least 3 case fans not to mention a CM-TX hsf.....I might put a tv tuner card in there too. Can't wait for this thing to come together. :)
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7. December 2007 @ 22:29 |
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@Greensman
Corsair 550VX Spec's...
+3.3V@30A,+5V@20A,+12V@41A,-12V@0.8A,+5VSB@3A
I am not sure about the New 3850 power requirements...however...it should be fine...I do not remember them saying that the 3850 were any kind of Big Power Hogs...and...I cannot see all those drives in use at the same time...even though...you would have enough power if you did...
Just to Let you Know...I have never used a Corsair P/S...however I Have No Reservation in recommending them because...of all the Credible Outstanding Reviews that I have read...They use almost all the same internal components of PCP&C P/S's...with a Quieter Cooling Set-up...Which is a plus since you are looking to build what amounts to a HTCP computer...if that is what you are after...you might want to look at the Cooler Master CM-282 case...I really like mine for a HTCP build...I like it better then even the $300 Zalman cases...at half the price...and it is convertible to a standard tower...$140 at cesell.com
You also might think about an AMD fot a HTCP build...my next build will be around this M/B...MSI K9A2 Platinum...once someone has one for the suggested retail price...everybody snatched these things up...and are selling them for $100 over retail...
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7. December 2007 @ 22:50 |
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So everything went perfectly except for one little thing. My DVD drive turned out to be crap!
Is there any other way to install XP on a PC?
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7. December 2007 @ 23:17 |
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@LP531 you are so right about so many things.
F.I.D.O.
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7. December 2007 @ 23:25 |
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My Cheap CM P/S arrived...and it is Dented Badly...No Damage to Box what so ever...It had to come from Factory this way...Looks like the good deal is now a straight loss...I will not install it...and I doubt if the company I purchased it from...will do anything about it...Has anyone ever dealt with these guys?..
J&R Music and Computer World...
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7. December 2007 @ 23:48 |
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I bought my creative zen from them, as well as some etymotic headphones. I say you damage the box and say it came like that. Make them replace it.
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8. December 2007 @ 00:46 |
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here's the cpu I plan on getting:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115031
Is it necessary for me to get a heatsink/fan for it? I don't plan on overclocking this system (at least not to start with) because it won't be for me, rather for my little sister. She doesn't plan on doing anything too hardcore with this system, so I probably won't even need to overclock it.
And, if I do decide to forgo such a purchase, could I buy one later and just stick it on with no problems?
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One more question. Do I need to buy some kind of thermal compound to go along with my cpu, or is that not necessary? Maybe it's only needed when you're not using the stock cpu fan?
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8. December 2007 @ 01:01 |
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Originally posted by jtan189:
here's the cpu I plan on getting:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115031
Is it necessary for me to get a heatsink/fan for it? I don't plan on overclocking this system (at least not to start with) because it won't be for me, rather for my little sister. She doesn't plan on doing anything too hardcore with this system, so I probably won't even need to overclock it.
And, if I do decide to forgo such a purchase, could I buy one later and just stick it on with no problems?
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One more question. Do I need to buy some kind of thermal compound to go along with my cpu, or is that not necessary? Maybe it's only needed when you're not using the stock cpu fan?
I don't think you'll need an after market hsf but I would look at one if you plan to do ANY OC'ing. ;) link to 2 I like
Get some of this........ for your hsf and cpu. ;)
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8. December 2007 @ 02:51 |
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but I only need the thermal compound if I'm applying an aftermarket hsf, right?
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8. December 2007 @ 03:17 |
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No...You need some kind of thermal compound between CPU & Cooler to fill in the invisible imperfections...and transfer the heat from the CPU to the Cooler...No Matter What CPU Cooler you use...Most Aftermarket CPU Coolers will provide some...if not get Artic Silver 5...$5.99 Free Shipping...
http://www.svc.com/as5-3g.html?gclid=CMiF86OdmJACFQU6awodxgN_8Q
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8. December 2007 @ 03:27 |
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i'm confused. just to clarify, if I were to get a cpu, and i don't plan on buying an aftermarket hsf, and only plan on using the stock cpu fan that comes with the cpu, I still need to buy thermal compound?
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