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28. December 2007 @ 11:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You know either you've overclocked it to the point where it has to shut it self down or it's overheating.

EDIT: Is it a POWERCOLOR card? Then it might also just be a bad card as I've heard bad things about them.

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28. December 2007 @ 13:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lp531: Can you post a link to the fan you are talking about?..

Here's an image that can be enlarged:
http://www.coolerguys.com/840556021537.html

and here's a page that shows a drawing with the 4pin connectors:
fan diagram

One of the cables coming out of the power supply has 2 pin connectors and a small 4 pin female connector (for ide drives, if I recall) as well as the larger 4 pin connectors (P7, P8, P9). When you say the 3pin connector coming off the ps cable is to control the cpu fan, does that mean this cable has to be connected to the motherboard? The manual does say that all the fan headers have +12v power already.

What I want to know is, can I just plug the fans into available fan headers on the motherboard and be good to go?

Thanks.
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28. December 2007 @ 14:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ Ream

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Id say its a damned good build, and probably one of the best in the world. if we wants to 3dmark it, hell deffo be in the top 100
I would love to see the final build of this, and would love to see your 3dmark ,a nd super PI scores
Thanks Ream, I placed the order this morning but I am going to have to wait a few weeks for the HD3870's as their currently out of stock.

I have made a couple of late changes to the spec:
PSU will now be the Corsair 620WATT HX SERIES PSU (Sammorris)
For the OS I have only ordered 1 x 150gb Raptor instead of two and 1 x Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200RPM 16MB, I will install a clean OS on each drive with identical software options and find out which of the two drives suits me the best, if its the Raptor then I will order an additional drive.

I will post 3d marks scores as I go.

Happy New Year
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28. December 2007 @ 15:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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When you say the 3pin connector coming off the ps cable is to control the cpu fan, does that mean this cable has to be connected to the motherboard? The manual does say that all the fan headers have +12v power already.
No...I said the 3 pin fan style connector that is coming off your power supply...allows the Motherboard...to control the fans...inside the power supply...Not the CPU...not all power supplies have this connector...

As for the connectors on the fan you linked to...you can hook-up the fan to either...a 4pin molex connector...or to a 3pin header off the mother board...but...Not to Both...

The small 4pin connector on the power supply is for floppy drives...

Can you link me to the P/S you have...that way I can see all the connectors that your P/S has...


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28. December 2007 @ 16:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lp531 -

Thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize one could have control over the ps fan. Isn't it better to just let it operate automatically? Here's a link to the ps:
Cooler Master 500

The stock heatsink/fan I removed had a 4 pin connector. Would I have had more control leaving that fan on the cpu rather than switching to a bigger 3pin heatsink/fan?

Again, thanks for your help.
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28. December 2007 @ 16:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Your P/S does not have the 3 pin fan connector I was talking about...
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One of the cables coming out of the power supply has 2 pin connectors
I have No Idea what you are talking about when you mentioned a 2 pin connector...there are No 2 pin connectors on your P/S...or any P/S that I know of...thats why I wanted a link...

As for your CPU Cooler...you are talking about a small 4 pin fan connector...correct...

It helps if I know what your system is...right now I only know that you have a CM-500 P/S...I know nothing else about your build...

Link to the connectors on your P/S...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage....0W+Power+Supply


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28. December 2007 @ 17:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the reply k0jootti, fasfrank and abuzar1.

I have updated to the latest ATI drivers and still no luck.

I also tried Ghost Reckon Advanced Warfighter 2 and this game re-booted my whole PC when loading up the menu!

Does sound like the card is overheating.

Is their anyway to stop it overheating? I have 3 fans in my case and the PC does stay cool, but i have not monitored temps during gameplay as most games are cutting out.

However with Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 the game runs fine, and temps are around 45 degress.

I am not overclocked.

Any ideas to stop overheating? Or could be something else.

Thanks for the help
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28. December 2007 @ 18:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What brand is your card?
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28. December 2007 @ 18:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can follow your videocard temperatures with AtiTool.
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Video-Tweak/ATITool.shtml
There is also fan options, which allows you to change fan speed.

You could also run prime95(Small FFT`s) to test whether your CPU is working properly.
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28. December 2007 @ 18:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Theone, I keep getting PXE-E61 media test failure. No bootable device. Also it does not seem to understand that I have two HDDs installed even tho they show up as being on SATA0 and SATA1. I have an "UltimateBootCD" that I can put inthe RW drive and it starts, unfortunately, when I tried to set up the HDD it dumped me into DOS.I don't speak DOS. Everything that I have tried today has not worked. When I was in BIOS, it asked for "Raid,IDE, AHXX", I set it for IDE. I could not find anything that gave me an auto-detect for the HDDs. I am about as frustrated as I can get and may have to back off for a couple of days. I will keep trying but is there any way to find out about the BIOS settings, a place where I can see exactly the different screens with an explanation of their purpose? Thanx for all your help. My Granddaddy once said, "There are no stupid questions."
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28. December 2007 @ 19:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Lp531:

Yes, the original cpu fan had a small 4 pin connector. The new one has a 3 pin connector but fits where the 4pin would go. The two pin connectors may be a mistaken description by me - they look like small 3pin connectors, but I examined them and found only two pins within the plastic connector, so I called them 2pin connectors.

Rest of system: Gigabyte ga-p35-ds3l, Intel e4500 duo core, 2 gigs crucial ballistix 6400 ram, 400 gig seagate sata drive, 7300GT video card (a stopgap I had lying around til prices come down for the higher end cards), cooler master centurion 5 case, cooler master extreme 500 ps, lite-on sata dvd burner.

Thanks for your help.
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28. December 2007 @ 19:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the brand is ATI RADEON X1950 PRO
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28. December 2007 @ 19:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@schpoogle
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The two pin connectors may be a mistaken description by me - they look like small 3pin connectors, but I examined them and found only two pins within the plastic connector, so I called them 2pin connectors.
This connector is coming from the Power Supply?..
Are you sure...that it is not coming from a fan?..Some fans only have 2 wires...in a 3 connector plug...
Do you see it in the pictures of your P/S connectors that I linked to?..


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28. December 2007 @ 19:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey Les!!! Looks like fun to me. :)

L@@K at this deal on a Corsair VX 550W Power Supply - CMPSU-550VX $68.04 after MIR!!! link

I'm getting one just cause it's a GREAT deal!! ;)

...gm

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28. December 2007 @ 19:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nice find...Greenie...
I think I will pick one up...


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28. December 2007 @ 19:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Lp531:
Nice find...Greenie...
I think I will pick one up...
You better hurry!! They'll go fast. Just clicked the "BUY" meself!!!! :D

...gm

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28. December 2007 @ 19:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
*UK people cry in corner*
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28. December 2007 @ 20:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by He_Man:
*UK people cry in corner*
So does the finns. Great deal, no doubt about it. :)
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28. December 2007 @ 20:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Lp531

The cables were connected to the molex connector, and I think they are from the fans - an extra bit of cable they included. I just happened to leave them connected to the power supply unit. At the time I figured if they were included, they were meant to be connected, so at first I did. Somehow, it didn't seem to make sense, which is why I requested help here. I can just unplug them all and the ps cables will look like they do in the images at newegg. Sorry for the confusion - there were more variables than I expected.

So I'm left with 3 fans and 3 fan headers. I assume I should just plug the 3pin connectors to various headers. But, is there any difference in which header they get connected to? Thanks.
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28. December 2007 @ 20:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by schpoogle:
@Lp531
So I'm left with 3 fans and 3 fan headers. I assume I should just plug the 3pin connectors to various headers. But, is there any difference in which header they get connected to? Thanks.
I'm not Lp but you should be able to see an indicator next to each header, CPU_FAN, SYS_FAN or CAS_FAN I think. Of course the CPU_FAN is self explanatory. The other(s) should hook up which ever way doesn't "exert" to much strain on the wires. ;)

hth.....

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28. December 2007 @ 20:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Damn it man, I bought that PSU for 90 bucks!

shubagh18, check your temps. If nothing seems to be overheating, then try one last thing, format and re-install Windows. That fixed a video card for me once. Otherwise you could contact your manufacturer and have them send you a replacement. A lot of video cards these days seem to have lifetime warranties.
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28. December 2007 @ 21:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Has anyone used this fan...
Enermax Marathon Enlobal 120mm x 25mm Magnetic Bearing Fan, RoHS Compliant, Model: UC-12EB Specifications: Bearing Type: ENLOBAL Magnetic Baraometric Bearing. Fan Speed (RPM): 1000RPM. Air Flow (CFM): 44 CFM. Noise Level (DBA): 17db. Rated Voltage: 12V DC. Rated Amps: 0.20A. Power Connector Type: 3pin $7.49
http://www.directron.com/uc12eb.html


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29. December 2007 @ 09:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by jazmanuk:
@ Ream

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Id say its a damned good build, and probably one of the best in the world. if we wants to 3dmark it, hell deffo be in the top 100
I would love to see the final build of this, and would love to see your 3dmark ,a nd super PI scores
Thanks Ream, I placed the order this morning but I am going to have to wait a few weeks for the HD3870's as their currently out of stock.

I have made a couple of late changes to the spec:
PSU will now be the Corsair 620WATT HX SERIES PSU (Sammorris)
For the OS I have only ordered 1 x 150gb Raptor instead of two and 1 x Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200RPM 16MB, I will install a clean OS on each drive with identical software options and find out which of the two drives suits me the best, if its the Raptor then I will order an additional drive.

I will post 3d marks scores as I go.

Happy New Year
nice way to go for the OS install. had i the money id have done it aswell :D

cant wait for the 3dmark bench and hopefulyl nothing is DOA when u geet the whoel build done.
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29. December 2007 @ 17:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@greensman

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The other(s) should hook up which ever way doesn't "exert" to much strain on the wires. ;)

Thanks greensman -

I was gone all day, but now I'm ready to plug her in and take her for a spin. Thank you, too, Lp531 - I imagine the first build is always the most uncertain. I'm not even booted up yet, and I feel like building another! Keeping my fingers crossed....
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29. December 2007 @ 18:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hydro x86,
Don't panic man! LOL!! The power works, it's just the CPU hasn't gotten warm enough for the fan to run. Go in the setup/PC Health and set the Smart fan Control to disabled and the fan will run at full speed. I had the same thing happen to me! LOL!! When it's real cold in here my fan doesn't spin for about 15 minutes on my Freezer 7 Pro! The temp just isn't high enough to turn the fan on and mine has a minimum speed of 800 rpm. It kicks in a just a little below that! Leave it in the CPU Fan header!


Best Regards,
Russ

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