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7. January 2008 @ 22:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lp531,
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I thought maybe...2 weeks with that Laptop running Vista...maybe just pushed you over the edge...

Actually there is a cure for Vista! You lay the disc on a cutting board and very carefully smash the living crap out of it with a Meat Cleaver and then scrape carefully into the Bin! LOL!! Guaranteed that Vista will never give you a problem ever again!

Are they still selling computers that void the warranty if you remove Vista and replace it with a real operating system? LOL!!

Happy Computering,
Russ




GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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7. January 2008 @ 22:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What I would do will actually bring you happiness. Sell it on eBay! Misery loves company!
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What I would do will actually bring you happiness. Sell it on eBay! Misery loves company!

That would give new meaning to "Being Screwed on E-Bay"! ROFLMAO

Computering On,
Russ


GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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7. January 2008 @ 23:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Haha yeah. Seriously though I think Vista has potential they just need to work on it more. Can't stick to XP forever...
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Haha yeah. Seriously though I think Vista has potential they just need to work on it more. Can't stick to XP forever...

Why??? It's taken the release of Service Pack 3 to finally make it do everything right! What's that 5 or 6 years since it came out? LOL!! Installing Service Pack 3 has finally made XP-Pro what it was supposed to be in the first place. I love it!

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Russ




GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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7. January 2008 @ 23:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How long have you been using XP? How long before SP3? After Vista gets SP1 hopefully things will be on track. When does that come out anyway?

Nobody was using windows 2000 when XP SP1 was out, except for the corporations.
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abuzar1,
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How long have you been using XP? How long before SP3?

I've had XP-Pro for about 4 years. SP3 was released Dec. 17, 2007. I installed it on the 20th! You can download it from Micro$oft's web site. Just google XP SP3. You can't install it if your XP isn't validated or at least has a valid key number!

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Russ


GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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7. January 2008 @ 23:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey Theo, put in my order for that computer last night, my nieghbor came over this afternoon to see what I ordered, I was gonna show him and found out it was gone, guess I got mine in under the wire.

Anyway just hoping everything will be working properly when it gets here my main concern actually, with refurbished its a chance you take, if I get past that hurdle first thing I'm gonna wanna do is upgrade to another gig, it is a ddr2 like you guys told me, much better than ddr, something I never knew, that will be simple enough I gather.

And last will want to add a dvd-rom, since it's not gonna be a replacement but an addition, hope it doesnt cause a problem, I still wont know if the optical drive writer it has is a sata or ide guess wont know till it gets here as to should I order a sata or ide rom, whichever it is I will go with an asus like you recommended before.

Theo I know a little about your work in the med field in the past, and reading your posts here your in no way a novice in this computer thing, it doesnt surprise me about all the youngens knowing thier stuff, they were born into it and thats great I envy them actually, but how did you educate yourself with this knowledge, did you take classes anywhere or self thought so to speek.

I retired several years ago 4 actually, on the construction sites when we had breaks and lunches I would always try and strike up conversations about computers with the young guys on the job and pick thier brain, my old counterparts use to get really pissed off at me sometimes, why are you always trying to talk that computer crap all the time they would say, I would answer dont you guys want to better yourselves with this new technology, you want to be left behind in the dark, yeah it was somewhat a shame they felt that way, after work lets go to the bar we'll talk about it there lol, yeah right. It's sad that most of my crowd looked at it as useless.

Also, these are new movies you guys are talking about, I'm kinda in the dark here, in other words whats all this about

EEEyyyeee Matey...Me...and My Parrot...Just Finished...
I am Legend...
Charlie Wilsons War...
A vs P Requiem...
The Great Debaters...
No Country for Old Men...
3:10 to Yuma...
Hitman...
National Treasure Book of Secrets...
30 days of Night...
American Gangster...
Most are DVD Screener's...Love Oscar Time...All those Screener's for the taking...}:)

I mean whats all that about cause I'm baffled here but it sure sounds intersting.
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7. January 2008 @ 23:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
He is talking about "pirating" movies. He gets DVD quality versions because they send out DVDs to the Oscars for screening before they are officially out on DVD.
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Originally posted by rick5446:
Lp531..Thats what I thought
Check out this site its NICE I use it a lot
http://www.rlslog.net/category/movies/

By the way does anybody know any reliable online outlets for DVD Media in Canada..or any U.S. OUTLETS that DELIVER to Canada
rick I had to really search the memory banks for this. lol. link ;)
http://blankmedia.ca/

Fred I think you made a good decision for you. I don't think you wasted your money but you could have made it go MUCH further with a NEW build. ;0

@Lp you shuddup!! :P You might try this link too!! :D

Been having some BSOD problems. AFAIK it's 100% software related but I haven't narrowed it down yet I don't think. ;)

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get out no kidding, man somebody is gonna have to enlighten me on this, I quess I'll be pm'ing somebody, cause I don't know if it's allowed to talk about this, or is it, on the thread.
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greenman, oh come summer, I'll be ready for that build you guys recommend for sure.
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Lp you look at this one too? link Is this going on your AMD build or Intel build? For some reason I thought your HTPC was an AMD. ;)

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PC build thread blank media thread Ultimate DVD Backup resource thread what did binkie7 do to me???
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And last will want to add a dvd-rom, since it's not gonna be a replacement but an addition, hope it doesnt cause a problem, I still wont know if the optical drive writer it has is a sata or ide guess wont know till it gets here as to should I order a sata or ide rom, whichever it is I will go with an asus like you recommended before.

Personally, until Sata optical drives can improve their performance to be better than IDE, I'll stick with IDE for them. I always hear the argument about the wide 40 and 80 wire cables, but until last year I never bought a round IDE cable. I used to fold the flat cable in two 90 degree turns and ran it along the bottom of the case and then folded it again to go up to the drive or drives. When I finally added a round cable the temps didn't change. maybe back in the day when you had a flat cable for the floppy, a flat cable for the hard drives and a flat cable for any opticals, I can see the point of the need for round cables as 3 flat cables spread all over a motherboard can block a lot of air, but one cable folded flat isn't going to cause any problems with ventilation. I see no point in paying more money for the same performance!
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Theo I know a little about your work in the med field in the past, and reading your posts here your in no way a novice in this computer thing, it doesnt surprise me about all the youngens knowing thier stuff, they were born into it and thats great I envy them actually, but how did you educate yourself with this knowledge, did you take classes anywhere or self thought so to speek.

I've been around electronics since I was old enough to walk to what was then a very new thing, an Electronics store, NRM Electronics in Ridgefield Park NJ. When solid state devices came along, I was always up on the latest technology so the transition from tubes to transistors and then integrated Circuits was very easy for me.

I bought a Colecovision Game machine for Christmas 83 for my wife and I to play video games with. It was the best Video Game Player of it's era as the graphics were much more like the stand alone coin machines of the day than anything else available at the time. A year later Coleco offered an Adam Computer module for the Colecovision and I bought one. Eventually I bought a Stand Alone Adam computer which hooked up to a TV or an analog Color monitor in 256 colors and a daisy wheel printer for about $500. It had a built in Rom, Word processor and Spreadsheet and you could buy programs that you could actually do work with. I graduated from that to an Atari ST 1024, which was sort of the "Poor Man's" Macintosh. Why, I'll never know because it was a much better computer than the Mac of the day ever was. Poor marketing and lack of foresight put Atari out of the computer business! Right around the late 80s, I went with a friend to a computer show, and I've been hooked ever since. I built my first computer, a 386 in a SIS motherboard with my very first AMD chip, because Intel only offered 33MHz while the AMD offered 40MHz. I've build somewheres around 250 Computers since then, but didn't really get into overclocking until about 4 years ago. Since then it's been a steep learning curve! LOL!!

I now know and understand the importance of buying good quality components and the benefits you get out of doing so. I spent a lot of money, that had I learned the facts sooner, I would have saved a lot of wasted money.

Joining AD, and then DVDHounds taught me so much that I didn't know. Then I have this tendency to go against convention, which has taught me a lot too. Then again, I've always been a "why not" person that's willing to try things that other people might think stupid or silly. All I can say is I've learned a lot with that kind of thinking that's helped me along the way, and I learn something new from every computer I've ever built. I've learned that while the CPU is the heart of any computer, the Power supply is it's blood supply. Buy a cheap overrated PS and you can quickly have circulation problems! LOL!!

I've also learned that while you can get by with some cheap components, you can't get by with cheap motherboards or cheap memory. There is a huge difference between inexpensive and cheap! Along the way I've discovered that you don't have to spend a fortune to get a very good overclock, you just have to shop smart and sometimes even wait for a sale to come along to get what you need at the right price. I do a lot more reading and investigating these days before I buy anything. I get enjoyment out of taking good high quality components and making them perform as good as components costing twice as much. Truthfully it's all in the research you do before you make the decision on what you want to put your hard earned money into, and what you expect to get out of what you buy!
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I retired several years ago 4 actually, on the construction sites when we had breaks and lunches I would always try and strike up conversations about computers with the young guys on the job and pick thier brain, my old counterparts use to get really pissed off at me sometimes, why are you always trying to talk that computer crap all the time they would say, I would answer dont you guys want to better yourselves with this new technology, you want to be left behind in the dark, yeah it was somewhat a shame they felt that way, after work lets go to the bar we'll talk about it there lol, yeah right. It's sad that most of my crowd looked at it as useless.

I retired in May 2006 because of a failing heart. I know exactly what you mean about people getting on you about computers. I remember back in 84 when my then wife wanted a set of Encyclopedia Britannica. The salesman came and charmed the crap out of my wife, but I was unconvinced as I had been reading about this new tecnology called CR-Roms and how a complete works of an encyclopedia would fit on one CD, and how easy it was to update. I told the salesman that I thought hard cover Encyclopedias were on the way out, and that in the not too distant future you would be able to put a CD-Rom disc in a computer and not only be able to read and see pictures, but that you would be able to see film clips as well as being able to interact with the topic. I'll never forget this as it's burned firmly into my brain! He turned to my wife, completely ignoring me and told her that I didn't know what the hell I was talking about and that she should get me to a Doctor to find out why I was crazy! Needless to say, I showed him the door, and all but threw him out of my home! The wife didn't hardly talk to me for about a month! LOL!! The last time I looked, Encyclopedia Britannica is available on CD-Rom and has every feature I mentioned way back then, and much, much more! LOL!! I guess you could call me a visionary that was ahead of the times! The fact remains is what you don't know, can hurt you. Most of the "Old Heads" that couldn't get past the vacuum tube age were searching for new lines of work after Transistors became a way of life, while I grew right along with it and progressed my way along to where I am today. I was just never afraid of change! I knew that there would come a day where computing would become a houshold word and that it was just a matter of time and progress before it came to pass. I just made sure I was ready for it!

Best Regards,
Russ

GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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8. January 2008 @ 02:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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@Lp you shuddup!! :P
Do You See Fred...I told you he was a Hot Head...}:)

Vista's problem is in its Priorities...DRM is its First and Foremost Concern...Not Efficiency...Speed...Compatibility...or Reliability...
here's a little blurb from an interesting article...that exemplifies Vista's problem...
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Newfangled DRM Even Better At Punishing Paying Customers
A guy named Davis Freeberg says he purchased a shiny new high-definition monitor, and discovered that one of the consequences of his upgrade was that he could no longer play movies downloaded (legally) from Netflix. After some further research (research that a lot of consumers would have neither the patience nor the knowledge to perform) and several tech-support phone calls, he concluded that the procedure for re-enabling Netflix would likely cause him to lose the ability to watch videos downloaded from other services such as Amazon Unbox. The really absurd thing about this is that all of these "security" features don't in any way prevent him from going to a peer-to-peer site and downloading illegal copies of the movies he wants to watch. It's only when he foolishly tries to obey the law and pay Hollywood for the movies he watches that he's cast into tech support hell.

This kind of problem is a predictable consequence of Hollywood's constantly-escalating demands for copy protection. Normal engineering principles dictate that devices should be designed for reliability, and should attempt to recover if it detects a problem. But DRM turns this principle on its head: if something appears to be amiss, it assumes someone must be trying to circumvent it and shuts down. So as DRM becomes more and more intrusive (and the copy protection systems in Vista are downright pervasive) it becomes more and more likely that something will go wrong. As a result, you end up with the absurd situation in which paying customers are punished with a never-ending stream of mysterious tech-support problems.
Off to Plunder...}:)

@greenie...
I thought about the Zalman's...I liked the 100mm of the nMEDIAPC fan over the 92mm Zalman... nMEDIAPC makes some Nice Stuff...they make products primarily...for HTCP's...I can get the nMEDIAPC ICECONE-X for $18 at another site...and yes its going on an AMD 3800-X2 Toledo 939 pin...I think I'm going to Grap it...

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16835133009


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Lp531,
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Newfangled DRM Even Better At Punishing Paying Customers
A guy named Davis Freeberg says he purchased a shiny new high-definition monitor, and discovered that one of the consequences of his upgrade was that he could no longer play movies downloaded (legally) from Netflix. After some further research (research that a lot of consumers would have neither the patience nor the knowledge to perform) and several tech-support phone calls, he concluded that the procedure for re-enabling Netflix would likely cause him to lose the ability to watch videos downloaded from other services such as Amazon Unbox. The really absurd thing about this is that all of these "security" features don't in any way prevent him from going to a peer-to-peer site and downloading illegal copies of the movies he wants to watch. It's only when he foolishly tries to obey the law and pay Hollywood for the movies he watches that he's cast into tech support hell.

This kind of problem is a predictable consequence of Hollywood's constantly-escalating demands for copy protection. Normal engineering principles dictate that devices should be designed for reliability, and should attempt to recover if it detects a problem. But DRM turns this principle on its head: if something appears to be amiss, it assumes someone must be trying to circumvent it and shuts down. So as DRM becomes more and more intrusive (and the copy protection systems in Vista are downright pervasive) it becomes more and more likely that something will go wrong. As a result, you end up with the absurd situation in which paying customers are punished with a never-ending stream of mysterious tech-support problems.

You've just made a stronger case for the Meat Cleaver! P.O.S., thy name is Vista! ROFLMAO! Seems like history is about to repeat itself. ME was incompatible with itself, while Vista slowly makes itself incompatible with itself! LOL!! Wait till it gets to the point of you having to provide a fingerprint, a special dongle, DNA sample and a piss test just to play your legally downloaded movie. ROFL!!

My neighbor has a Blew-Ray (Pun Intended, because it Blows!) player and sometimes it takes him a half hour to get the damn thing to play anything! Some movies won't play at all! They should take it and Vista and stick both in a Time Capsule as a prime example of how not to do something! What's next, the FBI showing up at your door because you rented or downloaded a title from Netflix and it won't authenticate and then sets off an alarm to notify the proper authorities? Next thing they'll have, is a way to cripple your perfectly legal store bought DVD with a Federally Mandated destructive Laser because Vista decides that it's an illegal copy! By the time Micro$oft gets all the bugs out of vista, it should cost about $800 to $1000 a copy!

I'm very happy with XP-Pro SP3, and I ain't a'gonna change!

Best Regards and my Deepest Sympathies to vista owners,
Russ

GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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nice read theo on last two posts, finally I found somebody that hates vista as much as I do, tracking software, how dare they, and thier drm crap, yep, vista, sony, they all can kiss this here one time.
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Hey Fred,
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they all can kiss this here one time.

I'd be afraid to let them kiss anything as I'm liable to get infected with something that terminates me! "DNA Profile doesn't match, Subject Terminated"! ROFLMAO!!

Best,
Russ


GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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Little Help Please..OOF TOPIC I Know..Does anybody know a good outlet online.To buy DVDs in Canada
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Little Help Please..OOF TOPIC I Know..Does anybody know a good outlet online.To buy DVDs in Canada
Greenie posted this for you...
http://blankmedia.ca/
Topic?..Isn't this the...pillage and plunder thread?..


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Lp531,
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I thought about the Zalman's...I liked the 100mm of the nMEDIAPC fan over the 92mm Zalman... nMEDIAPC makes some Nice Stuff...they make products primarily...for HTCP's...I can get the nMEDIAPC ICECONE-X for $18 at another site...and yes its going on an AMD 3800-X2 Toledo 939 pin...I think I'm going to Grap it...

With all due respect, my question is why??? heatpipe technology has been proven to be better, and all the heat stays right near the CPU with a cooler like that. The heat has to transfer through the solid part of the cooler and heat the whole thing up before it even starts to cool, whereas the heatpipes start transferring heat almost immediately because they run right through the solid part of the heatsink! Even with good case airflow, there's so little surface area there to catch any of the breeze flowing through the case, that there's almost no help there at all! At least with the Zalman and Arctic Freezer, the heatpipes draw the heat away from the CPU! Even after it's shut off, it continues to pull heat away from the CPU. When you shut a computer off with a cooler like that, the only thing that removes the heat is the fact that heat rises! I have no difficulty getting either the 9500/9700 and Freezer 7 Pro in my 8" wide case, even with a side case fan right in line with it. I could see if it had an advantage, but it doesn't. I can only imagine how quick it would overheat if the fan failed, while I can run my Freezer 7 Pro with the fan disconnected, just on case airflow alone. It may get a few degrees warmer but it won't overheat!

Sincerely,
Russ

GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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I have the Cooler Masters version...of the Arctic 7 on right now...The problem is...size...
It blocks half...of my 120mm intake fans on the side of case...
It's also...so tall...that...I can not install an additional 120mm Intake fan...on the top of the case...directly over the CPU...
I know the Taller...heat pipe cooler...is a better cooler for the CPU...however...my primary concern is with...overall air flow in case...and specifically...all the surrounding M/B components...
Heat after shutdown is not a concern...this is a 24/7 Media Server...
Overall component cooling is my priority...since it needs to run 24/7...
I will post a pic...that will help you see...why...I am looking at making a change...just for this particular build...also the Zalman 7700 series is out due to size...not enough clearance from side intake...
Also...The rear mounted CPU Cooler Fan...is to close to my H/D cage...and the cables...
It's really...the M/B layout...that is causing the problem...If the Ram and CPU were in the traditional layout...everything would be fine...






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8. January 2008 @ 06:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It should only have been one week! Although I did have to suffer with that laptop, I did make numerous posts here. The week's absence was due to me being on holiday in Cornwall, in a house with no internet.
I caught up fine with all threads except this one, which has a remarkable average score of one post every 20 minutes!

Service Pack 3's out? Wow, am I out of touch... I might install it on my "genuine" XP, but after the patch I used to fool the WGA process, UPnp is completely barred on my PC, so I'm thinking of reformatting and just using direct HTTPs of the updates instead:
http://www.softwarepatch.com

Russ: Wow, are you the new brobear? 1149 words, that's quite a post. Funnily enough the only reason I bought rounded IDE cables was to get UV-reactive ones. I'd normally be happy to use a ribbon one and fold it up like so many people are doing. As for the negatives of round cables, I've never found them to be a problem. To me it seems like one of these wive's tale style stories like modular power supplies, yeah the potential's there for problems, but it never happens.
I hear you on Encyclopedia Britannica, back in the 80s that must have been unheard of. Having said that though, I haven't used a CD based encyclopedia for god knows how long. Now, it's all web-based stuff. Granted, the reliability of the info isn't quite as great as a proper encyclopedia, but there are so many different sites around, you can quickly get an idea who is and who isn't talking bull.
LP: With issues like that I basically find there's one 'best' way to do things. Experiment with which way round you have the fans run and the heatsink face, and one of the combinations should net you far better temps. Finding my ideal setup has seen me with lower temps at half the fan speed!



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Can't Rotate this particular cooler...This is just the wrong cooler for this M/B...and case combo...fit wise...
My biggest problem is really...the H/D clearance issue...a short...downward firing design...like the zalman...or the icecone-x...would eliminate the H/D clearance...allow the installation of the second top 120mm intake fan...and minimize the current air restriction of the side 120mm intake fan...
Remember the CPU will have the 100mm fan...and the top 120mm fan...blasting down...on that big...all copper...heat sink...I don't think the CPU will be lacking...proper cooling...:)


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No, but you will of course need a proper heatsink to start with, so don't go for something less than a Zalman.



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