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9. January 2008 @ 16:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by He_Man:
Sorry to but in fred but i need an answer. ;)

http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Qui...ode=1&InMerch=1

Coolermaster case a good deal?
coolmaster said that the cosmos would change its rrp to that at ces



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9. January 2008 @ 16:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
deadrum, yeah thats how I got my add, of course I got mine from globalcomoputer.com, but tigerdirect is the same company as global, dont know why they do it that way, anyway it just seemed kinda of a good price I think, cause we I do build I do want a quad core.

Also he-man, I dont know if you were asking me about this case cause I am far from giving advise on computers, but I'll tell you this, that is really a nice looking case, I did find it on our amedrican site newegg.com, they always have great pictured details, I put that bad boy in my fav folder quick, I do want a full case, well build dont care if its gonna cost a little extra money, I do want a sturdy case, easy expandable, easy to work on with plenty of room, and I love the handles, I think every computer should have a top handle, this is one case I will be looking at closely come summer time. Other than that, what do all you other guys think?
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9. January 2008 @ 16:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oh forgot, here is the same case from newegg, better detail.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119138
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9. January 2008 @ 16:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
After wathcing a video review the only downfall seemed to be the way cable routing behind the mobo was bad, but that depends on your setup.
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9. January 2008 @ 16:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
He_Man,
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Sorry to but in fred but i need an answer. ;)

They are $200 at newegg. it looks like a well designed case. I don't much like the plug-ins on the top as the ports will collect dust, but if your environment isn't like mine where dust is a major problem, then I think it's a good deal!

Best Regards,
Russ


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9. January 2008 @ 16:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by theonejrs:
He_Man,
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but if your environment isn't like mine
The 70-80mph winds we just experienced here means dust has no time to settle........muhahahahahahahahahaha
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9. January 2008 @ 16:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I did read a review at your uk site, one guy did say he had some trouble wiring cause the case was so tall, these are things I'm learning to make sure whatever I get fits my build to the T, but if that is a problem so to speak, is that major or can it be remedied quite easily?
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9. January 2008 @ 16:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah except for the fact that the Thermaltake Armor, which is a same kind of case, is a hundred on newegg which the cosmos is 200. I personally prefer the Armor, others may prefer the Cosmos, but it doesn't justify a hundred dollar difference.
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9. January 2008 @ 17:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by FredBun:
I did read a review at your uk site, one guy did say he had some trouble wiring cause the case was so tall, these are things I'm learning to make sure whatever I get fits my build to the T, but if that is a problem so to speak, is that major or can it be remedied quite easily?
If restriction in cable length was a burden, some extension leads will be good. Good thing about picking a high end case is that no matter what you upgrade, you can keep it. :)
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9. January 2008 @ 17:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
abuzar1, can you explain what is the difference, armor and cosmos
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9. January 2008 @ 17:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well lets see, the Armor has 5 more External 5.25" Drive Bays and the Cosmos' fans are a little bigger(but it doesn't make a difference as the Armor cools VERY well). I personally think the Armor looks better, and oh yeah it's HALF the price :)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133154
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9. January 2008 @ 17:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Fred,
One of the things I like about my Thermaltake W0093 Rev. 2.0, is the cables are long enough to be neatly routed around just about any case. I don't like modular with the plugs, as more often than not the plug connections break down from constant heating and cooling over time. The ones with Amphenol connectors seem to work the best. I just stow the unused cables in the top 5.25 bay and they look neat, yet are out of sight as it's a direct line to the top bay. I split up my two optical drives with an empty bay between them to allow better cooling of the drives. I put the DVD Burner on top (3rd bay down), and the DVD-Rom in the very bottom bay (5 bay case). My case fan controller is installed in a blank in the very top bay and the one below it is empty! This way even though My computer is on my desk, I can still see inside both drive trays when they are open, and it's not at the top where there might be trapped heat. Works very well and the long leads are very easy to tuck out of sight so it all looks very neat! more than enough of the various plugs to go around too!

The W0093 Rev. 2.0 has turned out to be a very good PS with Active PFC that seems to work well in conjunction with the DS3R motherboard as my Vdroop from Idle to full CPU load is only 4/100 of a volt maximum, and all my voltages remain at nominal levels regardless of the load. It's extremely quiet too. For once a power supply that's much better than it's 70% efficiency rating! Just stay away from the Rev. 1.0 as it's a horror show!

He_Man,
I very much like the features of the cosmos case. I'm not a big window case fan, as cooling usually suffers a bit. The Cosmos is well designed and well thought out and is one of the better looking cases on the market. The "wind tunnel" for the video card is very good idea too! Keeps the heat away from everything else!

Best Regards,
Russ

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9. January 2008 @ 17:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Russ I couldnt find any info on the Thermaltake W0093 your talking about, can it be found on newegg, cause I couldnt find it
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9. January 2008 @ 17:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Fred,
Here you go!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153028

BTW, that deal for the XFX MB, the 2x1GB PC6400 mmeory and the Q6600 would cost $671 at Newegg right now, and that's priced with an OEM processor!

Best Regards,
Russ

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9. January 2008 @ 17:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
very nice ps russ, I also like the idea it says its quite, thats another thing I will be looking with a build, I dont want nothing noisy, fan's ps's whatever, also what did this one guy mean by his con.

Cons: Only has 2 cables of molex connectors with a daisy-chain of 4 molex and one floppy connector on each one. Would of been better to have 4 cables of 2 for cleaner cable routing if you have a side window in your case and to maximize airflow. This way you could tuck the unused ones away.
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
cincyrob,
If the operating system you installed on the new drive is the same as the one on old drive, it may not see the first partition of the old drive. You can easily set up dual boot, but they have to be different operating systems for it to work. Not 100% sure on this but that may be the problem.

Best Regards,
Russ
IT WAS THE SAME 'OS' but the side that the new systems does see is teh side that had the OLD OS on it and was wiped clean. the side it dont see just has about 40gb's of movies saved on it. just storage.

the old hard drive was partion'd on a old P3 system with different bios,and is now in the new build (GA-P35C-DS3R mobo,E6750 cpu) the guy at microcenter said the newer bios wont recognise the partion that he had to put it back in the old system and redo it
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9. January 2008 @ 18:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Fred,
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Cons: Only has 2 cables of molex connectors with a daisy-chain of 4 molex and one floppy connector on each one. Would of been better to have 4 cables of 2 for cleaner cable routing if you have a side window in your case and to maximize airflow. This way you could tuck the unused ones away.

He doesn't know what he's talking about, so I doubt that he really owns one or maybe hasen't used it yet! LOL!!. The cables, as he complained about are long and the connectors are as he says, but the spacing on them is just right, and if you use your head, (DUH! A little common Sense) it's very easy to hide the excess ends. What I did was use the connectors nearest the PS and then tuck the ends away between the Optical drives. It's far easier than the explanation! It also at a very good price with the MIR. One of the side benefits of actually owning one and useing it every day is being able to tell others just how good this PS really is! This is exactly what I mean when I say there's a difference between cheap and inexpensive! Are there better power supplies available? Certainly there are but at a considerably higher price. I can vouch for the quality of this product and it's been in use daily, for about 9 months now with no issues! Buy it, you won't be disappointed!

Best Regards,
Russ



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9. January 2008 @ 18:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
good one russ, that ps page went right into my fav folder
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9. January 2008 @ 18:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lets make this simple..Thanks CincyRob 4 stepping in 4 me on this Problem..

he explaned well as possible..

here it is..I had and old p3 system..i'll builded along time ago..I just tore it down to get some parts out of it..I was gonna put the new board in it but..I changed my mind not to..I went with a clear case instead..ok in the old..system..I split the the hard drive in 2 on the C:\ side..I put the OS. Windows Xp Home edition) now on the d:\ nothing there but Movies now. ok I took the Wd 320gb out put in over in the new system it's a IDE hard drive.I got it on a IDE card that on my pci slot and it only showed 1 side of the drive where the Os Was..so I wiped that side Clean Formated it..completely..It's only showing 137gb's on that Drive now..The Tech over at Micro center..said..I had to put in back in the old system to Deleted that partition off the drive because of the Bio's on the old board only reconize that it is partitioned to 2 drives C,D..Now..I done tore the old system down nothing left but a empty case..How can i make it a whole 320gb drive again on the new system.i got the E6750, Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R board combo ,2gb ddr2 corsair 800mhz 240pin, cas4.Ii just need some help figuring out this problem..thanks

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9. January 2008 @ 18:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If it's only showing 137GB that just means you need to get windows XP SP2 or SP3 nowdays.
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it does have XP sp2.had XP pro corp. editon took that out thinking that was the problem
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bigwill68,
Download and use Killdisk2 and wipe the partition and then format it directly from windows. Shouldn't have a problem as I have done that many times!

Best Regards,
Russ


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theonejrs a little help where do I find Killdisk2, Googled and came up with nothing. Thanks Chris Duh never mind damn MS keyboard spelled it wrong knowing it wasn't the two fingered typist!LOL

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9. January 2008 @ 20:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sammorris,

Thanks Sam for the link. I was a bit busy and figured he could Google it. I should have said just killdisk! LOL!!

Thanks again,
Russ


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