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20. January 2008 @ 17:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
herrick he has some obscure sites sometimes but here a couple for you. ;P

svc.com

fans at the EGG I always forget about the EGG when it comes to case fans....sometimes they do pretty good....lol

coolerguys.com

hth.....

Lp531 you post your weird websites NOW.....hehehe. :P

...gm

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20. January 2008 @ 17:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have been gone awhile...and not sure about all the drama...but send a link to S-FLEX or any other.... I welcome all suggestions...just want to redue my machine...all the other stuff Im cool, just want some leads please

Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-

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I currently have...(2) Gigabyte's...(1) Shuttle...(2) Asus...(2) Soyo...
I recommend what ever I feel fits the individual situation...usually price is the deciding factor...
Gigabyte just has the best...performance...to dependability...to price ratio...In my opinion Right Now...


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20. January 2008 @ 17:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quote:
your self proclaimed EXPERT knowledge of fans is limited to a few brands and makes.

Firstly, when have I ever called myself an expert?
Secondly, I have first hand experience of using the following brands:
Akasa
Casecom
Hiper
Adda
Sunon
Yate Loon
Nexus
Thermaltake
Noctua
Silverstone
NZXT
Antec
Ruilian Science/Xinruilian
Hardly total coverage of the market I'll agree, but I'm not limited strictly to the brands I recommend and plug, I simply think they're more worth using than the others listed.
However, this has gone on far too long for me, and for anyone else. For low noise, go with Scythe/Nexus. For top CFM / dB Ratio, go with Silverstone (or should I actually say, Everflow, since that's who they're made by). The facts don't lie, but at the end of it all they only say so much, it's down to your individual hearing. I even slag off Noctuas, which to many are the cream of the crop for silence. I have picky tastes as you see in this area, so what can I say, it's natural to extend what I've found meets the highest expectations to anybody else.
As far as the rest of the pc market goes, if I'm forcing a singular route on anyone with a degree of force, I apologise. There are vast numbers of different routes you can take with PC hardware and always achieve a respectable end result. In this area, I will happily step back and agree, the reduced number of PCs I built compared to the rest of the people in this forum is a distinct disadvantage to me, hence I have to rely on web research and other people's experiences so I know what to recommend. After all, I've never seen an 8800GT, HD3850 or HD3870 in the flesh, I can only go on what I've heard from people and official specifications.

Lastly on this note, it's been a stressful week for me. You shouldn't let that get the better of you with regard to your attitude on the forum, and I have. For this reason I am withdrawing from this thread, and the majority of the threads in this section of the forum for a couple of days. It's even stood out to myself that I seem to be disagreeing with pretty much every post that's made. It really is depressing.



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20. January 2008 @ 17:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Deadrum, don't worry about the magnetics as a computer has lots of magnetisim in it. all fans have have magnets. all drives whether hd, rom or floppies have 2 motors that have magnets in them. your external & possibly internal speaker has a megnet in it. your crt monitor has magnets in it. all you need to worry about is voltage & static.
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20. January 2008 @ 17:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
For this reason I am withdrawing from this thread, and the majority of the threads in this section of the forum for a couple of days.
:(

Anyway, thanks for the assistance mate. I can't believe how much knowledge i have gained from you and other people on this forum since early December last year. If you had asked me at the end of last year what SATA etc was i would probably have scratched my head.

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@sammorris

Can you please help me and I dont care about the cost at this point [tax return ah,ah,ha,] this is what I need

first rip out these deltas...my God they are load!!!!!!!!!!!

2 ea. 120x120x25 mm
2ea 90x90x25 mm

I want the fastest but NO noise.... give me a link please

Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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20. January 2008 @ 17:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
herrick here are some others as well. ;) Silverstones (these at least) push some air and are pretty quiet. NOT whisper quiet but hey at that sorta CFM what would...

link to fans....

ddp thanks for that info. I've wondered about that since it was brought up a while back. ;)

@DeadRum,
You also might consider some "electrical" screwdrivers. They're coated on the shaft and normally come in a package of 5-10 drivers with a "special" one that has the ability to "hold" a screw with ease with or without magnetism. ;) link 1 link 2 link 3
There are other manufacturers out there but if you're gonna do this on a constant basis Klein is about as good as you get!! good luck with that .... sounds like fun. ;)

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20. January 2008 @ 17:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks bro...

you are really earning your game...ah,ah,ah,

Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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20. January 2008 @ 18:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Herrick
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I want the fastest but NO noise....
The Best way for that to happen...is a Fan Controller...Quiet when you need it Quiet...Fast when you need it Fast...
Deltas...No wonder...I will post some suggestions after todays games...Looks like the Pats have got this one...

@ddp
Glad to see your still here...I hope life is treating you well...I'm sure the forum aren't...LOL..:)


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20. January 2008 @ 18:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
have controller per sig....ah,ah,ha,

ya...ROTFL...Deltas...you busted my chops mths ago for them, and rightly so...should of asked you guys first, leaned on my own understanding- its like a missle taking off LOL

BUT Im ready now baby...cant wait in till the parts come in...happy days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-

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Originally posted by herrick:

2 ea. 120x120x25 mm
2ea 90x90x25 mm

I want the fastest but NO noise.... give me a link please
a few fans to look at herrick. I would go with Scythe, Silverstone, or Silenx.....just my opinion tho...

link to fans 120mm

90mm (i picked 92mm hoping that they would fit.....any one know the answer to that??)

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20. January 2008 @ 18:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well while we're on the subject I may have pushed my opinion on the HD 3870 a bit too hard maybe. Sorry about that guys.

I still stand on the 3850 512 being better than the 8800GT 256MB though.

Hope we all get along now.
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noctua S12 are probably for me the greatest fans made. had they had an led varient, it would also be nice, btu untill then, for ALOT of airflow and super silence (vs the antec900 ones on low) they are the kings. but they cost about £12-£15 for ONE fan.



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20. January 2008 @ 18:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey guys, He_Man here.

Just wanted to create a new AD account. The name He_Man was depressing.

Greg

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are all the SILVERSTONEs white? man not good...everything On my machine is black and blue no other colors except silver on some case work

have window on case door w/ a 250x250x30 fan on it...very big case 11 bays

Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-

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20. January 2008 @ 18:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
greensman

92mm I bet the holes dont match?

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herrick, do you want colored lights with the fans lol




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blue...to match the other lights LOL

Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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Originally posted by Lp531:
Lets start here...HSPC Tech Stations...
http://www.svc.com/techstation-case.html

Thanks for the response, I really like those tech stations. If I'd have known of their existence I couldve made my bench half the size it is! I made it big expecting at least one properly running machine to be on it next to an old case opened up to slide individual components in and out.I have a tool kit and multimeter already, even if I dont know for sure which wires to be testing off the top of my head (I know where to look for that info so its not as bad as it sounds).

DDP-Thanks for popping back and clearing that up, I really was not afraid of using those types of tools, I'm sure used PROPERLY there'd be no problems.
Greensman---Thanks for the tool links, and I'm no mod (they asked but I said they dont get paid enough...LOL) but I dont think you were out of line back there. http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/426825/3730630 Theres a difference between stating of ones opinions and being insulting and it didnt look malicious from my neutral corner.

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someone correct me if im wrong but i think i read somewhere that the 92mm fans are really a 80mm fan base with the bigger blades on it. i know that sounds wrong but i think i read that in a review somewhere..i personaly dont know. just hear say..
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Well fan size depends on how big the rectangle is on a side so I guess some manufacturers could do that.


As far as the lights go I'm getting these. It's gonna be cool to see them go with the music.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800888072
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Originally posted by GregI6:
Just wanted to create a new AD account. The name He_Man was depressing.

I cant blame you as I seen the email you recieved...
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Dear HeMan,
When I find you I will show you what a real man looks like. You could even change your name to Greg16 and I'd still treat you like my prison *itch
Sincerely yours,
SKELETOR
Any other ideas to make a better "PC building workspce" are always appreciated.

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20. January 2008 @ 19:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
herrick's case has 92mm fans...for some stupid reason thermaltake calls there...92mm fans...90mm...
If you look at the specs on the bottom of the page...on this 90mm fan...they state...fan dimensions as (92mm x 92mm x 25mm)...
http://thermaltakeusa.com/product/DCfan/...nderblade90.asp

@deadrum
I also like having a "Computer Caddy"...just get (4) swivel wheels...mounted to a board with carpet or rubber mat covering...that way you can set the computer on any side...and not worry about marring the finish...then you can just rotate it...to what side...you need access to...



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