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30. January 2008 @ 14:26 |
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Mort81,
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in regards to PCIe buss frequency, upping the frequency a bit will help with stability when OC'ing your GPU.
I guess since my video card OC is fine, with no problems, I'll leave well enough alone. Stock the card was at 570/1450. Now it's 650/1600, and it's been that way for about 8 months or so without any problems.
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Russ
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30. January 2008 @ 14:51 |
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That's good, I didn't know that. Although I think what my GPU needs is a volt mod, but I might give it a shot.
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30. January 2008 @ 23:20 |
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budget for the rest of the parts is $500
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30. January 2008 @ 23:57 |
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What do you already have? I hope you didn't buy the AMD already. You would probably build a core 2 duo for that much money.
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31. January 2008 @ 00:45 |
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@abuzar1
i have a question..i installed this software that came with the board my question is y is the multipier's reading different than the cpu-z is? I don't understand that..
Cpu-z shot below
can you make sense of this? thanks
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31. January 2008 @ 01:03 |
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e_jones,
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I want one 1 gig stick so that later I can get 3 more of the same you suggest. Also can you suggest a hard drive, optical drive, and a case. I use a computer to 'backup' dvd's and music.
See! Now you get to learn a bit! You don't want 1 1GB stick! Why? Because the memory will only run in single channel with 1 stick installed. It will only run at half the throughput unless you use 2 sticks. Thats why memory is best bought in pairs. I'm assuming that because this is an older MB that it's socket 939 and has DDR400 memory. Something like this would be a wise choice:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145575
At $104 after $30 MIR it's an outstanding buy. I use it in my D-940!
For the hard drive I would go with a Seagate 250GB w/16MB L2 Cache Sata 3.0Gb/s. It's a good compromise between size, performance and cost!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148262
On the Optical drive I'm assuming you need a Burner! All I use for the 45 or so builds I do a year is NEC/Optiarcs for my Burners. Excellent drive and has LightScribe!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118004
As far as the Case goes, you will have to give me more info as I have no idea what you are looking for. I don't like window cases as they more often than not don't cool as well. My previous case had a window and all the lights and frankly it was a pain in the butt with all the damn lights all the time! Everyone has an opinion on cases, so the best thing to do is go to www.newegg.com and when you find something you like copy the URL and post it and then we can tell you if it's a good deal or not. Saves a lot of arguments that way too! It's the old deal where everybody likes "their" case! LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ
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31. January 2008 @ 01:15 |
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Bigwill68,,
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i have a question..i installed this software that came with the board my question is y is the multipier's reading different than the cpu-z is? I don't understand that..
Any software that can manipulate your settings in the bios while the machine is running is bad news. Add to that the fact that EasyTune has some known issues with some motherboards and memory. Stick with manual overclocking and get that crap off of your computer before you do have problems! CPUZ and Everest will give you all the information you will ever need to see what your computer is doing! I know it's so easy, but it can be so dangerous too! You roach the bios and it's RMA time! Just letting you know.
Best Regards,
Russ
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31. January 2008 @ 06:14 |
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Will, you have EIST enabled that's why. Either way I wouldn't use that software. Uninstall it and only mess around with OC in the BIOS.
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31. January 2008 @ 06:20 |
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abuzar1,
I apologize for jumping on you about the EasyTune. I was doing about 10 things at the same time and I mistakenly thought it was your post! I'll change it to Will and reword it a bit! Sorry man!
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Russ
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31. January 2008 @ 09:14 |
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31. January 2008 @ 10:28 |
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sammorris,
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On the case front, there are a lot of excellent case with windows so don't let Russ' warning put you off, but he does have a point when you drop the budget somewhat.
I had a window case for over two years, and at first I missed the window when I got this one, but now I don't miss it one bit. I can go to sleep downloading something large and the room isn't all lit up! LOL!!
There are over 600 Mid and full Tower cases on Newegg, and about 100 other sizes as well. I personally am not going to recommend any case to anyone anymore because everyone has their own idea of what the best case is. Every time someone recommends a case we get the same bunch of recommendations over and over with everyone pushing their favorite! I figured that by recommending that they look on Newegg and other places and then post what they see that they like and then ask our advice, we can avoid the same thing over and over all the time. Especially when more than half the cases on the market are absolute rubbish anyway! Considering that case prices can run anywhere from $13 to $600 and even more for some of the Custom paint job ones, to me it's a good idea to just let them choose something and ask our opinion. Saves an awful lot of repetitive posts too! Just my opinion of course, but I think it's a good idea! The only thing that's gonna count in the end is if they're happy with it when they do buy one.
Best Regards,
Russ
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31. January 2008 @ 10:52 |
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I often say "case is personal preference, but check out these".
As far as the lighting goes, it depends how many illuminated components you have inside. If you wire your lighting to a switch and avoid using too many LED fans you can put the PC in stealth mode so you can get some sleep!
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31. January 2008 @ 11:39 |
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sammorris,
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I often say "case is personal preference
More so than any other thing you purchase for your computer. You would be very surprised at some of the cases that some people think are good looking that I think are flat ugly! LOL!! We also live in a world where "Form" is far more important than function, and how much it costs is the most important thing! ROFLMAO!!
Best Regards,
Russ
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31. January 2008 @ 11:48 |
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Haha well indeed, I know someone who thinks the Raidmax Scorpio is beautiful... I think it's hideous... All told you probably think my cases are hideous.
Ultimately though I'm happy to spend more than usual on a case if it looks good, but in order to do so it also has to cool well. I don't spend money for nothing! :)
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31. January 2008 @ 12:04 |
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dont forget quietness sam :P
wouldnt the cosmos 1000 be perfect for you?
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31. January 2008 @ 12:05 |
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31. January 2008 @ 12:14 |
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yeah they will work fine :)
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31. January 2008 @ 12:19 |
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Rob I've already voiced my opinion on the 631. ;) Those fans will be fine as far as fitting. :)
Good luck with your build. :D
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31. January 2008 @ 12:32 |
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well the MOBO and the case and fans i will order next weekend. then the rest in another 2 weeks if everything goes right..lol
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31. January 2008 @ 12:33 |
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lol, I sense a little battle of the witts there, look guys, in no way would I even attempt to give an argument or an opinion when it comes to computer knowledge, but let me say something in just shear commin sense which is all I have to give.
Both of you guys are right in your own ways, but if I had to side with one of you it would have to be a little more advantage for russ, and no sammy don't go over to battle with this lol, and no I am not siding more with russ cause he's older and wiser which usually comes with our age, most of the time anyway, some still stay stupid after 60 and those never will get it anyway, but back to subject, you bet, one guy will say its great and good looks another guy will say it sucks, thats just human nature, when people go into battle over it than it can becomes annoying, we all have our picks, just don't go over the next level and do battle, cause this is what happins.
I have seen over the last several years here great minds leave AD cause of that reason, and who suffers, guys like myself, I check out everybody's opinion here, stupid or smart as it may be, becaue out of so many opinions I get to chose one that kinda sounds right to me, and if it does I ask more about it, if I don't like the answer I go to the next one and so on, but I would never know unless I had the option of so many opinions, and its up to me to weed out the dummies to the major league guys like russ and sammy, and no don't anybody say ok fred is kissing ass again, by no means, I'll tell you were to get off in a second but will always try and be a gentlman first lol, I just know quality when I see or hear it.
So my main reason am saying all this, don't none of you get annoyed and leave, don't become abscent, guys like myself relly heavy on you guys, I think a little while back russ kinda disapeared for a while, I don't know if somebody pissed him off or not, if you gotta go cause your buzy fine, but don't dissapear cause somebody pisses you off, and keep giving your opinions no matter what, your opinions is how we gain knowledge, and free knowledge at that, and thats the best bargain you can get anywhere in these times, so just keep up the good work, cause don't forget, without you guys around how in the hell would I build my first pc, just watching the clock tick for summer time.
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31. January 2008 @ 14:45 |
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cincyrob,
LOL!! Newegg doesn't show a window for that case. My bad! My only criticism is where these "Moron" engineers put the USB ports, Firewire and the sound jacks, right on the top where all the dust and dirt can collect. Almost as bad as the cheap cases that suck air in through those ports. That's alright, Dell is even dumber and theirs do suck air! If the computer is on the floor or a low shelf you have to almost get on your knees to plug something in because you can't see the damn ports, as they're recessed inside the front cover!
FredBun,
No battle of wits I can assure you! LOL!! I personally would rather see no case recommendations at all, as there's way too much controversy when it comes to cases. There's just too many cases and everybody has their favorites. I'm just as guilty as anyone else! Let them post a URL so we have an idea of what they want and then tell them whether their choice is good or bad, and why. It keeps the personal part out of it and keeps us from page after page of the same discussion every time someone asks about a case. When there's 700+ cases available on Newegg, and more than half of them are junk, it gets a little out of hand sometimes, only to be repeated the next time someone asks about what case to buy! LOL!!
I might as well throw a couple of rocks at the Newbies as well. Guys! do a little bit of reading on the thread before you post a question. Go back a bit and see what's going on before you start asking. I can't tell you how many times we answered the same question 1 or 2 pages ago. I realize it's asking a lot to ask just about anyone under the age of 35 to read anything these days, but we're here to help, not powder your behinds! I especially love the one or two PMs I get every month that give me a list of what they're looking for and want me to find the best deal for them. I feel like asking them if they can spell "google"! Most don't even say please or would you mind! A typical PM goes something like "Read a couple of your posts, you seem to know your stuff. Here's a list of what I want, would you get the best prices and get back to me"! Thankfully that type doesn't stay around very long because I just ignore them!
There's a saying. "God helps them that helps themselves" Enough said!
Russ
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31. January 2008 @ 14:51 |
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Let them post a URL so we have an idea of what they want and then tell them whether their choice is good or bad, and why.
Exactly how we should do it, I was looking for a suitable way of saying it!
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31. January 2008 @ 14:54 |
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quote from russ
I realize it's asking a lot to ask just about anyone under the age of 35 to read anything these days, but we're here to help, not powder your behinds! I especially love the one or two PMs I get every month that give me a list of what they're looking for and want me to find the best deal for them. I feel like asking them if they can spell "google"! Most don't even say please or would you mind!
LOL, I could never have said it better, slam dunk big guy.
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31. January 2008 @ 15:05 |
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sammorris,
Maybe we ought to talk to the powers that be and see about a "Newbie Button" with some dos and do nots, nicely worded of course. Not so much rules, but just a request that they help us help them! The ones that don't want to be bothered we don't want anyway, so it would be no loss!
Best Regards,
Russ
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31. January 2008 @ 15:21 |
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