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14. February 2008 @ 20:24 |
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That's weird, are you not using 1066Mhz memory?
Try the exact same thing with 5-5-5-15 as the timings.
Can you post all the settings you are using?
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14. February 2008 @ 20:31 |
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yea its 1066 mem.showd it as so until i changed the timings to 4-4-4-12.
now i changed them back to 5-5-5-15
but i had to change the multi to 3.20 to get it running at the 1066
but in CPUz and everest it shows as ddr2-800
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14. February 2008 @ 20:33 |
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That's because it IS DDR2 800 memory. It's just rated to run overclocked at 1066mhz, but it's still the same DDR2 800 module
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14. February 2008 @ 20:38 |
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Rob, do you have a camera handy? Post a picture of your settings. 3.6 Ghz overclock is child's play for your parts, you should be having NO problems.
I'm on a E6750 and PC-800 memory and I can get to 3.83 Ghz without breaking a sweat. So I think you might be messing up some settings somewhere.
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14. February 2008 @ 20:40 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
That's because it IS DDR2 800 memory. It's just rated to run overclocked at 1066mhz, but it's still the same DDR2 800 module
that dont make since??? why did it say 1066 all the way up to when i changed the timeings? even when i bumped the cpu up a little and set it back down it still said 1066?
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14. February 2008 @ 20:43 |
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when i took it up to 400 fsb changed the timing to 4-4-4-12
hit f10 to save. it rebooted.stoped then rebooted a second time and came back setup as 333fsb and 3.0ghz but the mem was set at 800
i dont have a cam or anything right now im at work...
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14. February 2008 @ 20:46 |
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im gonna shut it down emove the mem then reinstall and see what i get
or do i need to clear cmos?
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14. February 2008 @ 21:05 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
One of the things I dislike about the advanced BIOS in the Gigabyte is you only get the offset for memory voltage (i.e. +0.1V, +0.2V) not the actual voltage. I've no idea what voltage it is you're adding to. I presume it's 1.8.
Mort: Agreed, when you're in the M.I.T. if you're going for a big overclock, you need to drop the memory multiplier to something reasonable, and you may need just a wee bit of a boost for the volts. Fortunately the BIOS does the sums for you so you'll see whether you've chosen the multiplier settings right.
agreed, that's also a couple things I don't like about gigabyte bios's. you have to adjust the memory voltage and multiplier and then reboot and then use a proggy such as everest or cpu-z to check the voltage and frequency. with asus bios's they actually give you choices for the memory voltage eg. 1.8, 1.9, 2.0, 2.1, 2.2 and so on. they also actually give you choices of memory frequencys dependant on what the cpu frequency is instead of memory multipliers. same difference except asus gives the actual memory frequency (multiplier figured in) where as gigabyte just gives you different multipliers.
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well i set the fsb to 400 and it went haywire.rebooted and had me back at 3.0ghz
changed the mem to 4-4-4-12 and now it shows my mem as DDR2-800(PC2-6400)
Rob,
that's why I emphasized that you increase the cpu frequency in steps. I always get everything else in the bios set where it needs to be including the memory timings and voltage prior to doing any OC'ing and I also go ahead and up the vcore a bit as well. I wouldn't go as high as 1.4v with that chip unless you're intending on doing a major OC. see how stable it is at a lower voltage as you can always increase it more if needed.
to many chiefs here and not enough indians. to many ppl giving you advice on OC'ing, some bad imo. I'll step away. I wish you the best and good luck.
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14. February 2008 @ 21:05 |
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I plan to use a pair of extreme spirit II's for the northbridge and southbridge for my a8n32-sli. The end of the heatpipe though? what do I use for that? what is what it covers called, chipset?
http://estore.asus.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=3826&catid=131
this shows the heatpipe I want to replace. the rectangle at the end is what I am wondering about.
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14. February 2008 @ 21:13 |
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Originally posted by Mort:
to many chiefs here and not enough indians. to many ppl giving you advice on OC'ing, some bad imo. I'll step away. I wish you the best and good luck.
lol Alright I'll stop now. But just as a reference this is what I have my settings at.
FSB: 450Mhz
CPU Multi: 8x
Memory Multi: 2x(so it's 900mhz at 4-4-4-12)
CPU VCore: 1.4
Memory Voltage: +.2(so it's at 2.0v)
C1E and EIST are off. Everything else is left alone and it's been stable on the stock cooler. I'm using a E6750, and PC-800 ram.
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14. February 2008 @ 21:19 |
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e_jones I'm sure that you and herrick are tired of me and my advice. ;) I think the rectangular "heatsink" covers the mosfet area of the mobo. Of course the other 2 are the NB and SB. ;)
@Mort,
Can you answer this question to make sure. You know much more about ASUS mobo's than I do and I thought you had one of these at one time. ;) tia...
....gm
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14. February 2008 @ 21:28 |
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I'm not saying he can't up his cpu frequency to 400 or higher, even 450 but do it in steps keeping the memory freq at or under its rated speed until he reaches hi target cpu OC. then he can try OC'ing the memory as well. 333 or in his case 350 to 400 was obviously way to big of step.
you might as well keep helping cause he wasn't listening to me anyway. from now on, anybody wanting my assistance OC'ing will have to PM me and I will then decide if I want to help them. I've tried to help too many times in the open forum and then been ignored only to see the person later have problems.
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14. February 2008 @ 21:32 |
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You know what I think this is my fault. I told him to put the memry voltage to +.2, but that would only give him 2v and you said that his memory is rated at 2.2v. So maybe he should try +.4v?
Mort, I'm sure he was listening to you.
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14. February 2008 @ 22:03 |
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its back to normal now.. im done with it
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14. February 2008 @ 23:09 |
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aubuzar1,
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Rob, stop being such a Pussy lol!
set your CPU Vcore to 1.4, your FSB to 400, Multi to 9x and your memory multi to 2.5x. Try setting your memory timings to 4-4-4-12. Also set your memory voltage to +.2v
That's not a very wise post on the open thread. Especially with all the newbies! PM stuff like that, please! I do 3 or 4 a month just like that, with the bios tied in a knot! They turn the memory multipliers way up and poof! It finally sits there for hours turning on and off, over and over again! I charge $50 to fix it which is $35 less than the local shop. Takes about 10 minutes! LOL!!
As you can see by the posts that followed that quote, it was the wrong thing to say! Setting it to those setting and getting it to those settings are two entirely different things!
cincyrob,
You probably forgot to lower the memory multiplier to 2.0 for the lowest possible memory speed. If it was me, I would clear the bios and go from there. Just pull the battery and the PS AC Plug for about 5-10 minutes! My next step up would be up to 367 on the FSB and 3.2GHz. The memory will be running at 734MHz and out of the way for the moment. Turn off EIST and C1E, and be sure to set the memory to manual and the multiplier to 2.0!
Best Regards,
Russ
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14. February 2008 @ 23:17 |
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when i took it up to 400 fsb changed the timing to 4-4-4-12
there's part of the problem. the rated timings for that memory is 5-5-5-15.
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14. February 2008 @ 23:44 |
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I ran some PC-8000 Crucial Ballistic memory at 4-4-4-12 at 1000mhz, that's why I said it.
I'm sorry guys, I guess I don't do things slowly like you guys. I practically put these settings in the moment I got my PC running. Small steps just aren't for me.
Sorry for all the trouble I might have caused.
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15. February 2008 @ 01:14 |
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15. February 2008 @ 06:49 |
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Rob: Sounds right, you're well on the way to an extreme overclock! :)
PC8500 CAS5 memory is officially rated at 800mhz if you set it to CAS4. You have to manually force it not to use those settings. That's a problem I've had with RAM in the past. It won't go to CAS4 without a fight! lol
Mort: It's a sufferable setback considering how poor the last motherboard I had was for overclocking in general, at least now I don't have to "change some numbers and pray" like before. I prefer it this way round! A mate's Striker Extreme seemed just as unpredictable. nforce chipsets perhaps?
Abuzar: Not all memory overclocks the same, just like CPUs. I was surprised to see how far you got with those sticks at CAS4. Rob's may not be quite as good.
e_jones: ASk thermalright themselves, they're usually pretty good at telling you what their stuff is and isn't compatible with.
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15. February 2008 @ 08:40 |
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ok how do i or where do i see my actual voltage for the mem? i thought it was in everest (dimm) that was at 2.02v
so i went into bios and changed the voltage to +.2v and it is still the same?
i cant seem to find a actuall reading of the voltage for the mem. or i just dont know what im looking at.
sorry to sound so dumb guys. im still learning here.gotta remember im just a dumb washed up Jock that wants to be a puter geek(and please dont take offence to that casue i dont mean any buy it)
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15. February 2008 @ 08:45 |
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Haha, no offense taken mate! Seriously, we've guided so many down this path there's nothing to be ashamed of, if there's something you don't understand, it's us that need to apologise to you for not explaining it properly!
As for the memory voltage, I primarily use it on automatic, but I don't overclock the RAM much, so I've had no need for any additional voltage.
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15. February 2008 @ 08:59 |
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i have it on auto now. but how do i know what it is getting? i was told it needed to be at the rated volts of 2.2 and i dont know if it is at that or not?
on another item...i have the thermaltake fan on my side panel pluged into the PSU running full tilt.. sounds like one of them small gas powered hang gliders...lol but it does the job
mobo is at 27c
cpu is at 21c
now here is another question i have. how come it says CPU is at 21c then it shows the 2 cores and they are 40c and 41c bouncing back and forth a degree or 2???
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15. February 2008 @ 09:05 |
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One of the inherent problems with fans lit with LEDs (the Thermaltake ones especially) is that they have clear plastic frames rather than solid black, grey etc. The material they use for the transparent frames is quite brittle, and picks up a lot of vibration, so what makes it sound like a petrol glider (i like the analogy! hehe) is in fact the resonance through the plastic, not the actual fan's motion. You could attach it using rubber gromets and probably reduce the noise it makes by quite a bit, that and/or use a 4 pin to 3 pin adapter to plug it into your motherboard if you've got any slots left...
On the memory voltage, I'm not really the best person to ask as I've never dabbled with it. I'll have to wait until I get back to my PC this evening (c. 10:30pm GMT) to check myself, and I'm sure in that time, someone else will come along... :)
On the CPU temp, it seems suspiciously low. The core temperatures will jump around a bit, that's normal, and their temperature looks fine, but CPU being 21 seems a little on the low side. If it's quite cold in your room that's quite reasonable but if not, I'm dubious...
My motherboard tells me it's chipset temp is 21C though, and I can tell you from touching the heatsink that it's nowhere near!
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15. February 2008 @ 09:18 |
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Ok, if you want to run ut at 2.2v you will have to set it to +.4v.
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15. February 2008 @ 09:20 |
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Eh?
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