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27. February 2008 @ 12:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what is the difference between nForce and Geforce chipsets?


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27. February 2008 @ 12:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Even so, my server's usually shut down overnight, a proper server has to run 24/7 for months on end, somewhat different to mine.. :)
GTR: nforce are specifically chipsets. Geforce is graphics - if you have a geforce chipset, it typically has integrated graphics, nforces don't.



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27. February 2008 @ 12:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok gonna show some ignorance here. again.

just what is a server for? what are you serveing?lol
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27. February 2008 @ 12:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's a fileserver, hosts most of my hard disks so I don't have to have them running in my main PC and clogging it up with heat, cables etc. Gigabit LAN is much faster than external hard disks, I can tell you!



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27. February 2008 @ 13:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
some bargins here:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-071-OK
OcUK GeForce 8800 GT 512MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail
£131.59 inc VAT

- GeForce 8800 GT core running at 600MHz
- Shader Clock Speed of 1500MHz
- 512MB GDDR3 Memory running at 1800MHz
- 256-Bit Memory Interface
- 112 Stream Processors
- Shader Model 4.0
- Memory Bandwidth: 57.6GB/s
- Designed For Extreme HD Gaming
- Nvidia Pure Video Technology
- Dedicated Video processors free the GPU Shaders to run 3D applications
- Dual dual-link DVI supports two 2560 x 1600 resolution displays
- HDCP Enabled!!
- SLI ready ? Upto 2x the performance of a single GPU (Available on with future driver release)
- True High Dynamic Range Rendering Support ? Based on Open EXR technology
- World's first unified architecture supporting Microsoft® DirectX® 10
- Built for Microsoft® Windows® Vista?
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http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-013-SK
Sparkle GeForce 9600 GT 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail
£109.26 inc VAT
- GeForce 9600 GT core running at 650MHz
- Shader Clock Speed of 1625MHz
- 512MB GDDR3 Memory running at 1800MHz
- 256-Bit Memory Interface
- 64 Stream Processors
- Shader Model 4.0
- Memory Bandwidth: 57.6GB/s
- Designed For Extreme HD Gaming
- Nvidia Pure Video Technology
- Dedicated Video processors free the GPU Shaders to run 3D applications
- Dual dual-link DVI supports two 2560 x 1600 resolution displays
- HDCP Enabled!!
- SLI ready ? Upto 2x the performance of a single GPU (Available on with future driver release)
- True High Dynamic Range Rendering Support ? Based on Open EXR technology
- World's first unified architecture supporting Microsoft® DirectX® 10
- Built for Microsoft® Windows® Vista?
- 2yr Warranty with OcUK/Sparkle (support@sparkle-europe.com)
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and one for sam
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-014-SK
Sparkle GeForce 9600 GT "Cool Pipe 3" 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail
£117.49 inc VAT
- GeForce 9600 GT core running at 650MHz
- Shader Clock Speed of 1625MHz
- Silent Heatpipe Cooling Solution
- 512MB GDDR3 Memory running at 1800MHz
- 256-Bit Memory Interface
- 64 Stream Processors
- Shader Model 4.0
- Memory Bandwidth: 57.6GB/s
- Designed For Extreme HD Gaming
- Nvidia Pure Video Technology
- Dedicated Video processors free the GPU Shaders to run 3D applications
- Dual dual-link DVI supports two 2560 x 1600 resolution displays
- HDCP Enabled!!
- SLI ready ? Upto 2x the performance of a single GPU (Available on with future driver release)
- True High Dynamic Range Rendering Support ? Based on Open EXR technology
- World's first unified architecture supporting Microsoft® DirectX® 10
- Built for Microsoft® Windows® Vista?
- 2yr Warranty with OcUK/Sparkle (support@sparkle-europe.com)



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27. February 2008 @ 14:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I pray that's a decent fanless cooler, most of them are crap and the cards overheat. Of those three I'd take the fanned 9600GT, rip off the cooler and put an HR-03GT on it, probably with a nexus 92mm fan for added cooling.



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27. February 2008 @ 15:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok now i know this is the computer building thread but i feel that this would be the best place to ask my question seeing as how people here have routers and more than one computer.

i have two computers that are hard wired to each other by a router and i was wondering if there is a free program that will allow me to share files between them or access them?


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27. February 2008 @ 16:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Redice---What router and what OS are on both your machines?

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27. February 2008 @ 16:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Deadrum33

its a linksys router and both of them are running windows xp pro.


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27. February 2008 @ 16:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Redice - If both PCs are using Windows then you can just use file sharing (which is built in).
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27. February 2008 @ 17:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok well Pepp77 do you know of a guide that will tell me how to do it?


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27. February 2008 @ 17:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
abuzar1,
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Russ, I've been there and done that. I don't like waiting. I have a general idea of what my computer can do and I push it up that high.

Please don't take this wrong but that's called the impatience of youth! You don't have a clue in hell as far as having been there and done that! Build 250+ computers over a span of 18 years and then you will have some idea! No offense, but you're a typical young person who wants it "Right Now"! You remind me of this young friend of mine who bitches about the Quality he gets with DVD Shrink, but when I tell him to use DVDRB/CCE and set it all up for him, he complains that DVDRB/CCE takes too long! He wants the quality, but he won't take the time to do it right! The solution is staring him right in the face, and all he can see is how much time he is "wasting" with RB! Doesn't stop him from whining about it though! He's still looking for the easy way out!

What happens when you don't "get lucky" and things don't work? What do you do then? What computers can do and what they will do, are many times two entirely different things! When you want to build it once and do it right, you take your time! There are just so many variables to take into account. That's why I burn in all my builds for a few hours at stock speeds, just to make sure everything is working properly! Back in the day, when you had tons of jumpers on the motherboard, you could very easily burn things out if you made a mistake. It's a little easier today, but you should still take it slow and test a lot! I don't mean 20 minute Orthos runs, either! When I build a new computer, it doesn't go out the door till it's passed 12 hours of Orthos after I'm done with it, with no errors! I try to avoid warranty work! There's no substitute for the time spent doing it, no "Easy" button! I want to do it right the first time, and I don't want to be giving my time away for nothing! Since I only average about 1 to 2 warranty jobs a year, I must be doing something right!

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27. February 2008 @ 17:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Give these a try:-

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304040
http://compnetworking.about.com/od/windo...ewinxpfiles.htm

When I set my home network up I found it was basically just a case of choosing the drive/folders you want to share and then right clicking choosing properties, going to the sharing tab, then ticking the box under the Network sharing and security section.

I didnt need to change anything on my DLink Router.
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27. February 2008 @ 17:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I haven't messed up yet have I :)
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27. February 2008 @ 18:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
redice: Windows file sharing is easy to setup and use, I highly recommend it.




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27. February 2008 @ 22:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Pepp77: thanks for the links i will look at them and give it a go.

sammorris: thanks i will give it a try.


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27. February 2008 @ 23:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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When I build a new computer, it doesn't go out the door till it's passed 12 hours of Orthos after I'm done with it, with no errors! I try to avoid warranty work! There's no substitute for the time spent doing it, no "Easy" button! I want to do it right the first time, and I don't want to be giving my time away for nothing! Since I only average about 1 to 2 warranty jobs a year, I must be doing something right!
amen to that, although i myself am impatient i learned the hard way, I spent 800$ bucks on a few new computer parts, and heres were i went wrong ... i left the power connection for the cpu fan unconnected, me being just a dumb sh*t just shut the case, plugged her up and
after 40 minutes of gaming (F.E.A.R) the graphics started to get blocky and the game started to freeze, i then got a blue screen of death and prayed it was the cheap RAM i bought... i opened the case to find a bubble on my AMD (melted), and a nice amount of smoke coming from it, from then on i double check everything!

just another war story
-tripplite



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28. February 2008 @ 00:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
whoa thats a really bad mistake!

seriously i need to convince my mom, so she can let me buy computers online, i need a new mobo and psu

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tripp I think we all have those stories or something similar. It takes a "real" man to admit when he makes a mistake. lol.

I put together a little rig for my kiddies, they haven't used it yet. lol. Gotta buy them a desk first. :D

Anyway I had all these parts laying around waiting for me to build an AMD single core system. I thru it together and had issues installing windows which was a 'bad' HDD (used) so I got another one and it went just fine. I then started installing monitoring progies and things like that. When I started up the first monitoring progie it indicated I was running about 60C and I figured "hey that's wrong". lol. So I tried another one. It was up to about 75C by then. So I started frantically searching out problems. The frikkin cpu cooler fan wasn't spinning. By the time I turned the puter off it was up to 90C. Oooops... It was a mobo fan plug problem and I fixed it with little effort. lol. Of course I thought the cpu was GONE... I started the puter back up and the fan ran, yeah, BUT to my surprise the computer runs just fine. I ran Orthos for a few minutes and it was fine. NO Oc'in of course. It's an internet beater. lol.

MORAL of the story: LUCK was on my side and we all make mistakes. :P Hopefully if you make mistakes they're NOT computer threatening. lol.

GOOD LUCK to ALL!!!

...gm

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Thought that I would add some pix for you that requested.....

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[img]quoted from creaky, "I think i need a break away from this thread, you are just talking absolute and utter nonsense now. Im off to ban myself and hit myself repeatedly with blunt objects. And if im still conscious after that im going to install Windows Me."[/img]
PC build thread blank media thread Ultimate DVD Backup resource thread what did binkie7 do to me???

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28. February 2008 @ 09:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Correct me if I'm wrong Gm, but isn't your PSU upside-down? or rather, the right way up at the bottom of the case (and therefore wrong)? Or does the coolermaster case only let you put PSUs the usual way up?

Loving the green S-ATA cables...



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28. February 2008 @ 10:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah the psu is right way up!

Wow, green sata cables, and how many drives do you have? and what gpu do you have?

hey there is a spider next to your pc, in the 3rd pic.

@All
Is X38 and good chipset? My friend said it's not that good, X48 is better

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GTR35, text only sigs can be 5 lines max...you cute little bunny makes yours six lines. Fix to comply with forum specs ASAP.


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While you're here Loco, what's the governing rule on lengths of lines for signatures? In my normal size window for afterdawn GTR's sig is 5 lines, it's six if I contract. What screen resolution are those rules set for?



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Right Im finally ready to start my build

GA-P35C-DS3R
E8200
Corsair XMS2 CAS4 800Mhz Ram (2 x 1 gig)
Arctic Freezer 7 Pro
CM-690 Case
2 x Optiarc 6170AD Opticals
1 x 250 and 1 x 500 SATA internal drives
Sapphire 2600XT 512mb GDDR3


Have spent the best part of the morning and afternoon getting my old PC in a saleable position, cant do it after the build as I only have one PSU :)

Had a couple of minor blips the first was that I removed one of my drives from the old comp to test an operating system on the other and didnt want to accidentily format the second drive with its 400 gig of backups on lol, then when I turned the PC back on it wouldnt post, it just sat there before even the first beep - this PC usually beeps twice about 10 secs apart if okay. When I looked inside the comp the power cable for the 2nd drive had become dislodged - I thought it strange as i didnt realise this would cause my PC to not post - I thought it would say no Drive or something.

After finishing that test I also then removed that drive and replaced it with an 80gig IDE drive (the others are SATA) and replaced both the optical drives with a spare I have. I set the HDD to master and the ODD to Slave on their jumpers. Now the IDE cable I have is too short to connect the blue connector to the motherboard and the grey and black to slave/master, I assumed the cables were basically the same inside as the pinouts all match on each socket, so I connected them in such a way that they would fit. But when I turned it on again I thought it wasnt going to post but then after about 20 seconds the drives get recognised and it posts fine. At first I thought it might have been because it had 3 FAT32 partitions on it, but its still doing it after Ive reformated it to one NTFS partition. If I check in BIOS it shows the HDD as master and the ODD as slave, and the boot sequence is set to CD/DVD then HDD, so I cannot think what is causing the delay apart from the cable being in the wrong order but that doesnt make sense to me.

Now time to go install the CPU and Heatsink on my new build :D
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changed it...it should read 5lines

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