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9. April 2008 @ 15:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That really depends which game it is. Games with large file structures such as Rollercoaster Tycoon 3 are subject to load times in minutes using normal 7200rpm drives, performance is massively improved with the 10k drives. They are noisy though.

Greg: That depends if you're going to use the free delivery (which takes 1 week) or not. If you want it next day, it might be slightly cheaper here:
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?quicklinx=44J8



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I resized shaf. they're not too big now are they?

hey sam,

when you installed your TR ultra 120 did you use AS5 or TR chill factor that was supplied w/ the cooler. I read some reviews comparing AS5 to TR chill factor and they were about even. I went ahead and used AS5 only because TR recommends reapplying the chill factor after 1 year. they sure give ya a nice big tube of the chill factor though.

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haha yeah since I got an HR-03 too I have two tubes of the stuff, it'd probably do for a hundred heatsinks! I used Arctic Silver V purely on the basis that I assumed it better than anything a cooler is likely to come with, though from recent research I'm not so sure. A friend borrowed the Thermalright stuff though and said it didn't seem as good - more runny, but then he's not exactly a cooling expert. With my Ultra 120 attached to my CPU purely to the Arctic silver coat I applied when I got my freezer 7 Pro (I haven't replaced the half of what I used that came off on the old cooler when I removed it, just plonked the new one straight down) I pull 43C load on my 75% overclocked E4300 typically. I think that's tremendous considering.



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yeah, the tr chill factor tube is 10 times bigger than the as5 tube. the tr stuff looks too messy. I have plenty of as5. still half a tube opened and a full one unopened.

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Well, up to you mate, I played it safe with AS5 and had good results...



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Morty just spit on it!! hehehe. NO don't do that... I used AS5 on my AMD rig and have plenty left but I tried the Zalman ZM-STG1 just for giggles, since docTY uses it, on the E6850 and Q6600. ;) It's nice because it comes in a handy little "finger nail polish" bottle and has the brush for applying it as well. NO mess and easy to use. Anyway you can't go wrong with AS5, slap it on there and get this rig running!!! :P

I'm trying to remember where I read an article that stated an equivalent to AS5, about the same price and all. If I find it I'll post the link. ;)

Morty thanks for resizing, they work nicely now on a 17" LCD. I wish I had something in the 22" range but I don't think the better half is willing to part with any more money until we finish the bedroom. lol.

Where's DeadRum?? /me wants to see more pics of the man cave, colors of green are showing. lol.

....gm

edit: for clarity... me don't talk so good sometimes .... lol

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I tried some of the zalman thermal compound and in my experience, it's not as good as AS5. easy to apply though. I went with the tried and proven AS5.

everything is going as scheduled and expected. here's some assembly pics. ready to slide mobo tray into case.










@ZoSoIV,

from top of mobo to top of TR ultra 120 extreme heat tubes is 6 5/8".

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sure wish the crossflow fan and additional 4 in 3 device module I ordered was here. be a lot easier installing them while the mobo tray was out.

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NICE Morty!! That video card is huge-friggin-normous..... lol. I'm very curious to see what temps your cpu and Extreme 120 run. ;) Looks great so far buddy. ;)

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Can't find those holy grail of Samsung HD322HJ anywhere.......


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9. April 2008 @ 17:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Why do you need a single platter 320GB drive? You're not exactly pushing silence, and you'd probably get just as good performance from an F1.



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Loadsa peeps been praising it. Beats paying an extra 20-30 quid for a raptor.


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yes but it's not going to be as fast as a raptor...



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CINCYROB
This deal is pretty good but I don't know enough about the psu. I put a 550 in a friend's computer and it's working just fine but you'll have to do some research on this one unless the guys here have some input. ;)

link to Antec Power Trio 650 $49.99 after $50 MIR and $30 savings....

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9. April 2008 @ 17:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's silly cheap for a 650W unit, and Antecs aren't bad...



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the F1s are quiet aswell as fast.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
That's silly cheap for a 650W unit, and Antecs aren't bad...
Yep it's definitely cheap (inexpensive)!! I just hope that Rob sees the deal before he pulls the trigger on the Corsair, course he can cancel the order. Mwuahahahahahahaahaa!! The Antec may not be quite as good as the Corsair but it's not far off and it's (the Antec) a far cry from the POS PSU cincy was using. lol. :P

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9. April 2008 @ 17:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
nope i didnt buy anything yet.. gotta wait till next friday. then im going hog wild...

ive looked at so many PSU's in the past few days i could careless if they was giving them away(well yea i would)....most sales will be over the 14-16th. i hope they are replaced by even better sales

hope to hear from gigabyte about my mobo this week...
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Originally posted by GM:
Where's DeadRum?? /me wants to see more pics of the man cave, colors of green are showing. lol.

I'm here, I've spent the afternoon building and havent been online. As usual the thread is a page longer in a few hours time :P
I will post pics of the build and cave (will post links cause Morts pics and mine at the same time will be murder for some people on dial-up...)
when everything is done.
Everything powered up fine, using MiniPE atm to check and see if everything was working before I started to setup windows.
I'm also imaging my 74GB Raptor as we speak to another HDD in my other machine, to use it for OS drive in new build while my 3 Samsungs RAID all my data.


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OK, I've hit a little snag. my mobo does not have pin headers for AC97 or HD audio. there is a pin header marked AAFP1 on the Supreme FXII audio card and the pin configuration is the same for both the AC97 and HD audio connectors for my front panel. from what I can tell from googling, this is where I hook up the front panel audio. my problem now is, is it for AC97 audio or HD audio? either one will connect to it.

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Depends. Do you actually have the HD audio connectors built into your case?

I know in my case I can connect either. Just connect what you want to use.
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Does it not mention that in the manual?



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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Depends. Do you actually have the HD audio connectors built into your case?

I know in my case I can connect either. Just connect what you want to use.
all there is on the front panel is a mic jack and headphone jack but there are connectors from the front panel for AC97, HD audio and azilia.

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Does it not mention that in the manual?

nope, nothing about the internal connectors on the Supreme FXII. one connector is for the digital audio connector from an optical drive. got that one figured out.

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If you're not going to use HD audio, then just connect the AC97 connector.
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I was just very pleasantly suprised. I called asus tech support and got right through. no hold time. he told me to hook the HD audio connector from my front panel to the AAFPI connector on the Supreme FXII audio card. whether or not he is right remains to be seen however.

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