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23. April 2008 @ 10:12 |
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well i couldnt resist.
OC'd a little. up to 3.42ghz. mem at 1:1 under clocked right now. i dont know if it is the PSU or me not being on this puter in a while but this thing FLY's i need wings..lol got Orthos running all is well..
oh yea my temps are the same at 3.42ghz as they were at 3.0 right now a high of 62c under load @ 3.42ghz...
gonna get me the Artic Freezer 7 friday i think..
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23. April 2008 @ 12:03 |
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If there's a sudden difference in how the PC runs I think we may have found the culprit. If you still get issues in Sandra don't fret as I think that can often happen. If OCCT and Orthos pass, however, and your system works reliably again, it looks like we're well on the way to the rebirth of the Big Red Machine... Cheer up! My issues with my faulty graphics card have got me down, but you can't let it ruin your life!
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23. April 2008 @ 12:29 |
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imo, from the results i saw i expected the WD 640 to top the 7200RPm caus it only has two platters packed at 320GB per plater.
and the 1TB f1 is faster then said 1TB drives becuase it only uses 3 platters at 334GB where as most use 4 250GB platters
and WD have used only 16MB cache on the 640GB.....and its chart topping, so id say 32mb cache doesnt really effect performnce as it not fully being used
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23. April 2008 @ 12:34 |
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Indeedy. There's only so much you can pull off with 7200rpm it seems. The impact of half-filling a drive is far greater on its performance than it having even any more than 8MB of cache. At 90% full my OS drive can only make c. 25MB/s peak of its original 70, and it's fully defragmented.
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23. April 2008 @ 13:53 |
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WOW, amazing deal on that case. I am buying it too!
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23. April 2008 @ 14:47 |
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cincyrob,
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gonna get me the Artic Freezer 7 friday i think..
I thought you already had an AF7-Pro??? What are you using now?
Speaking of Freezer Pro, I did some careful measuring and then ordered a freezer 64 for the eMachine. I'll probably have the only eMachine in the world with a cooler like that in it! LOL!! Unlike most Mini ATX cases, this one had a lot of thought put into it's design. For instance, you don't need a Burner or a kit (ala Dell) to install a second HDD. There's actually a drive bay already there for it. Not only that, unlike the Dell kit, there's actually some room (about 3/4") between both drives for air to circulate. The other puzzler is the thickness of the steel. Most eMachines have cases that are so flimsy, that if you pick up the side cover by it's corner flat, you could easily damage it as they usually buckle and flex all over the place! This one is solid with none of that Flexible Flyer feel when you take it apart. The one I replaced all that stuff in was wobbly as hell with nothing in the case. It just surprises me that eMachine's cheapest computer has such decent quality to it. You would think that they would use the cheapest thing they could find as they have in the past. Most eMachines I ever saw had covers a little better than re-enforced Kleenex. Still, I can't build or buy a comparable machine for $341! That's the total cost for an AMD 64x2 4800+, Freezer 64, 120GB WD Sata drive, 2GB of G.Skill 800MHz Ram, 500W PS and an 8x DVD Burner! The cost will be even less when I sell or use the Sempron 2.01GHz 3600+! LOL!!
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23. April 2008 @ 14:57 |
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23. April 2008 @ 17:20 |
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Hey Guys,
I just have a quick question, i have a Sapphire PCI Express ATI RADEON X1950 Pro graphics card for my PC.
The specifications state that I would require a 30amps on a 12 volt rail.
I have looked everywhere and cannot find a power supply with 30amps on a 12 volt rail. I am in the UK.
If anyone has got any link to sites in the UK that sell the power supply I am looking for, that would be greatly appreciated really.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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23. April 2008 @ 17:49 |
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Originally posted by shubagh18:
Hey Guys,
I just have a quick question, i have a Sapphire PCI Express ATI RADEON X1950 Pro graphics card for my PC.
The specifications state that I would require a 30amps on a 12 volt rail.
I have looked everywhere and cannot find a power supply with 30amps on a 12 volt rail. I am in the UK.
If anyone has got any link to sites in the UK that sell the power supply I am looking for, that would be greatly appreciated really.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
This :- http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132563
would give you 41 amps and is a very solid and quiet PSU.
But even this :- http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131052
would give you 33 amps.
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23. April 2008 @ 17:59 |
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23. April 2008 @ 18:10 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
this would be the best buy, and those specs are over rated btw.
most include an OCed EXTREME Quad proccessor aswell.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135159/sho...xtended
Thats not a bad buy - but the choice of connectors is limited and I dont trust the specs - it says two 12v rails at 18a, but upto 40amps overall Click here
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23. April 2008 @ 18:17 |
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The Corsair VX 450W will be fine for an X1950 Pro I assure you.
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23. April 2008 @ 20:36 |
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I found a pic of those EnzoTech forged copper Mosfet coolers for anyone interested. Certainly would help on a lot of motherboards.
I'm going to try a set in the not too distant future, and see how they do.
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23. April 2008 @ 22:34 |
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This is frikkin sweet!!!! click on the link you guys..... LINKY to the case of the week!! lol.
And for my UK mates!!! linky to your case of the week.... hehehe...
.....gm
@russ,
I still haven't gotten the NB enzotech cooler yet. I'm not OC'in that much and the NB is well within tolerances for me. ;) Lemme know how those mosfet coolers work!! If I OC any further I'll have to get the full gamut of coolers and such. lol.
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23. April 2008 @ 22:39 |
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well the puters been on all day no shutting down or anything.orthos ran a few hours no problems. OCCT is running now(hour test).in between times ive shut it down restarted everything fine. i changed my fans around some. i have the 2 top 140mm fans as intake now. the 1 side fan thats in front of the CPU cooler as exhaust. then the lower side fan as intake. front fan still intake and rea as exhaust... temp are still the same. under load right now about 65c. i did turn the front tricool fan down to medium. i cant hear this thing run at all....
sam you would be proud...lol
hopefully i get my artic freezer 7 this weekend. if not next for sure. i'll have some OCCT graphs shortly
Grennie i'll give ya a call in 20 mins 10:05 your time
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23. April 2008 @ 23:49 |
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Rob,
I realize the fan configuration on our cases is a little different but I finally concluded that this is the best arrangement for my case: as you know, we want the airflow to be from front to back and heat rises. both front fans are intake, top fan and rear fan are exhaust. both side fans are intake (sucking cool air in off the floor). then there are the p/s fan and the GPU fan both, of which are also exhaust.
most will say a little negative psi is better but in my case (play on words), a little positive psi works better.
if I was you, I would try: front fan as intake, rear fan as exhaust, both top fans as exhaust, both side fans (mounted as low as possible) as intake. just a suggestion.
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23. April 2008 @ 23:57 |
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Originally posted by Mort81:
Rob,
if I was you, I would try: front fan as intake, rear fan as exhaust, both top fans as exhaust, both side fans (mounted as low as possible) as intake. just a suggestion.
that is the original way i had them. thought i would change them around and see if it made a difference.
im gonna try and take my CPU fan and plug it into the PSU directly. with it pluged into the mobo i cant adjust the speed of it. and it is only runnning at 609 rpms
i stand corrected. its my chasis fan that is only spining at 609rpm. still shouldnt that be going faster?
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is that a tricool? if so is it set on high on the 3 speed switch. is it plugged into a header on the mobo or directly to the psu?
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Originally posted by Mort81:
is that a tricool? if so is it set on high on the 3 speed switch. is it plugged into a header on the mobo or directly to the psu?
no it is the CM fan that came with the case. my tricool fan is in the front set to medium. the CM fan in the rear is pluged into the mobo. i might try and plug it into the PSU directly.
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24. April 2008 @ 00:41 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
Originally posted by Mort81:
is that a tricool? if so is it set on high on the 3 speed switch. is it plugged into a header on the mobo or directly to the psu?
no it is the CM fan that came with the case. my tricool fan is in the front set to medium. the CM fan in the rear is pluged into the mobo. i might try and plug it into the PSU directly.
it is possible that, that is a 720 rpm fan although most cm fans are 1200 rpm. it is probably something to do with a fan setting in your bios.
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24. April 2008 @ 02:36 |
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Mort81,
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no it is the CM fan that came with the case. my tricool fan is in the front set to medium. the CM fan in the rear is pluged into the mobo. i might try and plug it into the PSU directly.
If it was me, I would put a Silverstone FM121-B on the rear and set it to 1200 rpm. Puts out right at 65 cfm at that speed and is very quiet doing it.
BTW, I use negative pressure to feed the static air vent on the lower side cover. It draws in cool air right at the video card and feeds some of it to the cooler and memory. Without some sort of air vent like that, negative pressure won't work! My case only has 3 case fans. I use the stock Cooler Master 80MM that came with the case for intake in the front, a Silverstone FM83 exhaust on the side cover and a FM121-B in the rear. I get pretty close to 100 cfm going through the case with both running under 1300 rpm, so everything stays pretty cool. Both Stones at full chat would move 185 cfm, but make a "LOT" of noise doing it! LOL!! There's no need as my temps have been good since I set these fans up! I guess you could throw in the PSU fan, but it doesn't run very hard. Much quieter than just the two Stock fans, and way quieter than when I had a Thunderblade in the back!
Best Regards,
Russ
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24. April 2008 @ 02:52 |
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yeah, I've got a vent on the bottom of my case, not at the bottom of the side like my mystique was but rather along the case bottom in the mobo area of the case. the whole right side panel is basically a vent as well.
for cases with the psu on the bottom the exhaust theory doesn't work as well imo since the cooler air is on the bottom of the case. not as good of design as top mount psu. again, just my opinion. should in theory however keep the psu cooler.
also not everybody uses a 2 slot gpu with that exhausts out the back of the case. so they can't count it as an exhaust fan. 2 slot "outside the case exhaust" gpu's is all I will use.
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Mort81,
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yeah, I've got a vent on the bottom of my case, not at the bottom of the side like my mystique was but rather along the case bottom in the mobo area of the case. the whole right side panel is basically a vent as well.
for cases with the psu on the bottom the exhaust theory doesn't work as well imo since the cooler air is on the bottom of the case. not s good of design as top mount psu. again, just my opinion. should i theory however keep the psu cooler.
I wondered about how open the side of the computer case was and how it could move enough air to the right places. The suction on my air vent will easily hold a piece of Bond paper without falling off! I think the trick with your case would be higer cfm for all the exhaust fans and lower cfm for the ones on the side cover. This way you would be evacuating what the side fans are cooling off better, and all the fans on the side would pretty much cover the components with their airflow. By increasing the airflow on the exhaust side, you should get good cool airflow, pretty much from all directions while still exhausting the heat.
One of these days I'm going to do a Computer Model of some cases and their airflow and see what I can come up with that's a bit more scientific. It's taken a lot of time, trial & error and several different fans to get to where I am right now, and I fully realize that what works well for my rig might not work as well for someone else, even with the same case because of differences in the location of various components on the MB and differences in the other hardware used.
Best Regards,
Russ
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