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8. July 2008 @ 21:11 |
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Yes, I suppose that's true. My B, My B. lol
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8. July 2008 @ 21:22 |
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abuzar1,
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Yes, I suppose that's true. My B, My B. lol
Wait till you hear this. Last saturday someone brought me a PSU out of some kind of Compaq (he didn't know the model but it is a computer)! 100 watt BesTec! I'm dying to see what the heck can run on 100 watts! I really hope he brings it by! LOL!! He said that he bought a new PSU, but it's too big to fit. This PSU is very narrow front to rear and there's just no room for something larger! Can't wait to see how much Compaq charges for a replacement! ROFLMAO!!
Russ
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8. July 2008 @ 21:33 |
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100W :O
most CPUs have a tpd of about 65Ws. thats half of it, not to mention mobo, GPU hdds Odds etc. lol
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8. July 2008 @ 21:48 |
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My 5 year one has a 150W Hipro.
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8. July 2008 @ 21:50 |
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let me first say. im sorry to have stepped on anyone's toes here. i did not mean to. i know i dont know as much about the computer world as everyone else here, but im learning. i can only speak from what i have seen,done,tried. i dont want no arguements over anything ihave said that might have been wrong,might have been write. its done and over with. once again im sorry if i stepped on anyones toes.
its been fun.
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8. July 2008 @ 22:07 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
greensman,
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NOW the deciding comes in.... lol
Actually your choices should be fairly obvious. I would go with the DS3L for the MB as it's a known performer that's highly rated, and overclocks well if you choose to do that. I would go with the Corsair Dominators, although I would get the 1066 memory instead! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145043 Newegg is out right now, but it shouldn't be out for long! It will be cheaper and you can play with the multiplier to get it close to 1066, so the memory bandwidth and performance will be better for no additional money! makes sense to me!
As far as the Compaq goes, I sure as hell wouldn't put one in the work environment! They are cheap crap, built with the bare minimum everything! Junk!!
Russ
Russ as much as I appreciate your input.. lol. I think you are forgetting one important "fact".... It's a work computer and I'm not doing anything with it that requires "excessive" or "high performance" components. ;)
Originally posted by GM:
This is a work computer and only needs to email, run spread sheets, do some graphics but NOTHING demanding, and maybe burn a few discs. ;)
I can see going with the P35-DS3L but I would have to buy a gpu. BUT the Dominators seem like extreme overkill!!! I would buy those and stick them in my machine before I ever put them in a WORK computer. ROFL!!!!
I'll continue to look and I can't wait for more input. :)
@RedRob,
What the heck is this.... Originally posted by RR:
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Did your computer send out a glitch or something?? Anyway try again and lemme looky at what you tried to post. :D
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8. July 2008 @ 22:19 |
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abuzar: I know you have that Xigmatek cooler so, I wanted to ask: Did you put in the spoiler and how the hell do you put it in? It's just hanging there, loose, and I keep worrying it's gonna fall off. I don't even know if I installed it correctly.
One more thing: Do you know where I can find instructions for installing with the bolt thru kit? After weeks of waiting, they finally sent me one free from Xigmatek, but it came with no instructions, so I'm clueless.
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8. July 2008 @ 23:00 |
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Mrk44, it was a customers build(so I cant look at it right now), so I cant give you detailed instructions, but here is how I did it.
I took that spoiler, and put the middle part OVER a fin, and put the two outer parts, UNDER that same fin. Does that make any sense? If not I'll try to elaborate.
About the bolt through kit. You have to unscrew the Intel Push pins from the cooler, and screw in the similar looking objects that come with the kit. Then you have to take out your motherboard and place the X plate and align it up with the CPU cooler holes on the BOTTOM of your motherboard. Be careful, because it's very stick when you take off the film from the X plate thing. After that it's pretty simple. They are spring loaded screws. Just attach the cooler on the top of your motherboard, and I BELIEVE all you have to do is screw it in.
The instructions are similar to these.
http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_page/p..._u120a.html#775
NOTE: I have never personally installed the bolt through kit on the Xigmatek. Just going off what I see.
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8. July 2008 @ 23:10 |
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OOOOOHHHH!!!! I understand the spoiler thing now. And the instructions seem pretty simple. Thanks!!! I can finally cool down my CPU and overclock. My temps were close to 40C with stock cooler. And after I installed my 8800GTS it just got hotter, along with my system temps (43C)....
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8. July 2008 @ 23:10 |
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I had one here a couple of weeks ago that didn't even have a case fan, just a duct from the CPU cooler to the power supply intake!
I see those all the time at work. I repair them by the scores. On one campus we had almost 600 of the damn things. HP/Compaq builds them and so does Dell. The HP's have an intake fan at the front right of the case that is also part of the heat sink that cools the CPU, and because it is a front intake the rest exhausts out the back. These aren't enthusiasts computers, they're meant for office use. They're not necessarily unreliable for that purpose, but I figure a few weeks with RB will put one in its grave.;)
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8. July 2008 @ 23:14 |
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That's true, they do what they are intended to do. I haven't dealt with any recent prebuilt computers(I only build PCs, no repair. Hmm... maybe I should start), but the older ones will go on in a office environment for years and then they will just be trashed. All people do is MS Office, and web browsing anyway.
MRK44, No problem man. Glad it's working out. Post your temps.
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8. July 2008 @ 23:23 |
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8. July 2008 @ 23:27 |
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lol lower end Asus motherboard, AND open box. I think some people wont trust that AT ALL Mort.
Just trying to get a poll here, how many of you guys ever used the GA-P965-DS3? Before all the L and P nonsense came about? GREAT board.
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9. July 2008 @ 00:09 |
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abuzar1,
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Just trying to get a poll here, how many of you guys ever used the GA-P965-DS3? Before all the L and P nonsense came about? GREAT board.
One of the all time best motherboards I ever owned! A legend in it's own right! It saved GigaByte from going under! Following it with the DS3 L through R series didn't hurt either. Probably one of the very best of the 965P motherboards ever made! I know that both Tom's and Anandtech have shown it's result for comparison to newer and more advanced chipsets, and it's always been in the top end of performance. I know in the P35 shoot-out someone had a while back, they used it to compare the 965P to the P35 and it it finished 2nd overall out of 9 motherboards! The P35-DQ6 was the overall winner, with the 965P-DS3 second!
Best Regards,
Russ
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9. July 2008 @ 00:11 |
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lol
Yeah, I know YOU have one. Your sig is the same as the box!
I loved mine, and I got it for a VERY low 65 dollars, and this was BEFORE the P35 chipset came out. Took my E6400 to 3.5Ghz STABLE.
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9. July 2008 @ 02:59 |
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I finally installed the xigmamtek cooler, and my CPU temp dropped from 40C to ~30-34C. How much higher do you guys think it will get if I OC to 3.0GHz?? Only problem I still have is my system temp is about 45-46C...ouch. I guess my 8800GTS runs a bit hot. I think I'll need to get a case fan for the bottom of the case. Any suggestions??
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9. July 2008 @ 03:51 |
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Originally posted by mrk44:
I finally installed the xigmamtek cooler, and my CPU temp dropped from 40C to ~30-34C. How much higher do you guys think it will get if I OC to 3.0GHz?? Only problem I still have is my system temp is about 45-46C...ouch. I guess my 8800GTS runs a bit hot. I think I'll need to get a case fan for the bottom of the case. Any suggestions??
my question is that the side panel fan 120mm a intake or exhaust on your case? if not an intake i would switch it to 1..before..i try to crank up the cpu..heat rises if you get a bottom case fan make it an intake also...my hot air blow out the back and the top but my case is different..mine is 3,,120mm intakes side and front and 3,,,120mm exhaust two top and 1 back your temp on the cpu should be 34c to 36c after you Oc it,, mine jumped from 31c to 34c at idle but also verys by room temp also what you suck in from outside the case so keep that in mind..
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9. July 2008 @ 04:02 |
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bigwill68,
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my question is that the side panel fan 120mm a intake or exhaust on your case? if not an intake i would switch it to 1..before..i try to crank up the cpu..
Just to let you know, side intakes don't always work too well. Sometimes since not all sockets are in the same exact place, they interfere with the air from the CPU fan to the cooler! It also depends on the CFM of the fan and where the fan is located on the side!
Best Regards,
Russ
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9. July 2008 @ 04:45 |
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Russ Wrote=
Just to let you know, side intakes don't always work too well. Sometimes since not all sockets are in the same exact place, they interfere with the air from the CPU fan to the cooler! It also depends on the CFM of the fan and where the fan is located on the side!
Best Regards,
Russ
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That maybe true Russ in some sense..one of my 120mm side panel fans is blowing directly on my Cooler Master RR-CCH-L9U1-GP 92mm Hyper TX2 CPU Cooler..but keep in mind all coolers do collect dust from time to time and that holds heat also so good to blow them out from time to time to keep things flowing right..i feel if you wanna do a Oc you need to have good venlation and enough fans..i learned that from that clear case,,i had from 52c in the clear case to 34c in the 590 cooler master at idle..I'm planning a winter build but it will be water cooled project this time..
Done out of Here!
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9. July 2008 @ 06:15 |
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Onboard video is more than sufficient if a computer is used for just 'office' use. The only reason to buy even a cheapy video card for an office use pc is if the onboard video can't deliver the relevant resolution and refresh rate for whichever monitor it's intended to be
hooked up to.
As to old Compaq's, i've used them for many years at work (from P2's, P3 500's up to P4 2.66's). (end-user computers for our entire company are Compaq as standard). All sturdy enough for years of constant office use. A bit slow running Office 2003 etc but excellent for Linux, in fact my two work Linux machines are P4 2.4's, they outperform any of our P4 2.4's/2.66's by miles (which are running Windows XP). My 3rd work pc is a HP P4 2.66 (i think these were some of the first Compaq machines from when HP took over Compaq) running XP and Office 2003. (Guess which PC rarely gets used out of those 3 - yup, the slow Windows XP machine) :)
These Compaq's/HP's have small power supplies but more than adequate for years of office use.
I can't speak for newer Compaq's (ie now branded HP) as most of us in IT are still using P4's.
Anyways, it's always nice to go home and use modern kit, ie my Dual Core Dell's or the Quad Core beast, after spending all day using old (but almost up to the job) kit.
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9. July 2008 @ 07:08 |
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Abuzar: Compaq have changed, a lot. If you saw the quality of the old ones vs the new ones, you'd agree with theone.
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9. July 2008 @ 07:08 |
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creaky,
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These Compaq's/HP's have small power supplies but more than adequate for years of office use.
I can't speak for newer Compaq's (ie now branded HP) as most of us in IT are still using P4's.
The quality was always there with the old ones, even though the speed never was, and you couldn't overclock them except through software (UGH!)
Like I said I see a lot of the new ones here because it's an "Economically Depressed Area"! Translation: A whole bunch of lazy people who don't want to work, that choose to live in the County Seat, because the Welfare office is right downtown, as are all the Aid to Dependent Children and Food Stamp offices! Anyway they buy these things and then a lot of them find their way to me to convert them from Vista Home Premium to XP-Pro. I sell a lot of video cards because most of their on-board graphics are no good for just about any of the popular games, regardless of the CPU. They certainly don't have the solid Compaq quality of old!
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9. July 2008 @ 07:53 |
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Like I said I see a lot of the new ones here because it's an "Economically Depressed Area"! Translation: A whole bunch of lazy people who don't want to work, that choose to live in the County Seat, because the Welfare office is right downtown, as are all the Aid to Dependent Children and Food Stamp offices!
WTF!!!!!!!!!!
now your lazy and dont want to work or support your kids and take from welfare if you buy a HP/Compaq computer?
i find that as a insult of all insults my HP system was given to me for a birthday present from a man (my father-n-law) that works his ass off and has never asked for any kind of help.
most people that buy the factory built computers arent looking to OC them, 90% of the time i doubt the people that buy them dont know a thing about computers other than how to turn them on and use the software the use on a daily basis.
As is why i/we have the HP system. i didnt plan on doing anything to my HP system and havent other than adding some burners and a stick of memory.it has never given me a BSOD shut down reboot or anything. I'd say they are a great learning tool. once i found out about a better system and got the urge to build my own. i learned what the HP system couldnt do cause of its limitations and took that into building my rig now. no i havent built hundreds of computer and dont intend to but that doesnt mean im worthless piece of shit cause i own/have a HP system. i think that is ludicrous to even say something like that.
no need to reply,comment or other wise, i wont be around to see it or respond im off to collect welfare and quit my job.
im done here.
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9. July 2008 @ 07:57 |
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9. July 2008 @ 11:08 |
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Just trying to get a poll here, how many of you guys ever used the GA-P965-DS3? Before all the L and P nonsense came about? GREAT board.
I'm still using one socketed with an E6600 overclocked to 3.4 GHz. Donald and I both bought one at almost the same time when we formed a folding team, and both of us had good luck with it. For the money it is or was since it is no longer being sold, a really decent board.
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