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what dvd burner to buy?
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mvyvoda
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20. July 2003 @ 17:54 |
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there are an overwhelming number of dvd burners out there on the market today. i want a cheap ($100USD-$250USD) solution to be able to copy movie dvd's and play them on my xbox. i am somewhat familiar with the industry lingo, but make no claims in being an expert.
another thing i will want to be able to do with this burner is convert my vhs tapes to dvd. i have read quite a lot about how to do this process, but am posting today to take advantage of all of your guys' experience with regards to what would be the best solution for me!
i've read some about the post about the Pioneer DVR106 and was close to purchasing it for $203USD! i will need this by the end of august. do you think i should wait until the market becomes more mature, or does that matter?
thanks you so much for your time,
mark
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20. July 2003 @ 18:18 |
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Buy the Pioneer DVR106 without any doubt as it is the best writer available!!!!
Chris
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mvyvoda
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20. July 2003 @ 18:26 |
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does the xbox use dvd-r as it's media? am i right in thinking that most dvd players use dvd-r?
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20. July 2003 @ 18:33 |
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DVD-R is more widely accepted in DVD players than +R. The figures are that over 90% of DVD players accept DVD-R and around 75% accept DVD+R. im not sure about the XboX since i dont have one, but my friedn Kevin has successfully used -R in his. Buy decent media such as Ritek G03/4's.
Chris
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mvyvoda
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20. July 2003 @ 19:18 |
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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20. July 2003 @ 19:24
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21. July 2003 @ 04:28 |
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Yeah, it is funny about the differences between the two. make sure those are correct when you are buying. Also, you will probably have to update the frimware to rip at those speeds anyway.
Chris
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Tosca
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21. July 2003 @ 06:46 |
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Avoid the 106.
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mvyvoda
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21. July 2003 @ 08:39 |
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why?
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21. July 2003 @ 08:52 |
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Avoid the 106? Have you been smoking what Herbsman is smoking? lol Since it is now less that £130, it is probably the best writer there is available.
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brh996
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31. July 2003 @ 13:53 |
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What's wrong with optorite dd0203.
It has a much larger cache, faster CDR write, and faster DVD read, it's cheap too.
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31. July 2003 @ 18:16 |
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Its cheap, yes, is it quality, no?
Take a Daewoo family saloon. Same size of engine and a load of extra features for the same price as a BMW 3 series. Which is the better car? Its the same with DVD Writers.
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lmadern
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1. August 2003 @ 10:18 |
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Oriphus you may be a senior member around here but unless you own or have owned an Optorite burner it is only your opinion that the pioneer is better and that the Optorite is cheap and inferior.
I own the optorite drive and have had no problems with it. It burns any media that I put into it. The only problem I had was with Khypermedia but "WHO HASN'T" with that crappy media. I guess all I am trying to say is that you may prefer the pioneer but I'm inclined to go with what brh said about the spec's being better with the Optorite as I am completely happy with mine.
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brh996
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1. August 2003 @ 10:26 |
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This is more a question of would you rather have a BMW 3 or all the internals of a BMW 7 series with the minor annoyance that it happened to say "Honda" on the hood even though it really isn't a honda.
The optorite may be a no-name brand but most no-name brand electronics are actually rebaged brand name electronics and this optorite drive is no exception. The 8 megabyte cache is of primary interest to me. The optorite is also dual format and the HD Burn seems to be quite a nice feature.
Without some hard evidence I'm inclined to view the pioneer drive as paying $50 for a $5 hanes tshirt because it says Calvin Kline on it.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 1. August 2003 @ 14:20
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1. August 2003 @ 18:02 |
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We have a BMW 7 series and wouldnt dream of changing it to a 3 series. Same way i have a Pioneer and wouldnt dream of changing to the Optorite. I am glad you are having success with the Optorite and i hope it continues. By the way, it is irrelevat what my membership status is, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, be it newbies, junior or whatever.
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brh996
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1. August 2003 @ 22:37 |
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The point is the internal electronics of the optorite drives are not no-name (only the badge on the outside) and the internals are superior to the pioneer drive you keep promoting. It writes faster and has a bigger cache. You are paying for the little sticker that says pioneer on the outside plain and simple. I'm not sure if the same manufacturer makes pioneer and optorite drives but there are certainly some no-name brand drives made by the same manufacturer as pioneer if not optorite.
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lmadern
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2. August 2003 @ 03:52 |
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Oriphus, of course everyone is entitled to their opinion but what I was saying is that you are a senior member here, many people listen to your opinions.
I'm sure you probably have the pioneer drive and are very happy with it. Great!! But what isn't great is that you are giving an uninformed opinion about the optorite drive that others will listen to just because it is you saying it. When your analogy about the BMW 7 series to BMW 3 series is just wrong. I would put the analogy more like: a06 is to BMW 7 series as the optorite is to a super charged Corvette. It may not be as luxurious but it sure is faster.
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2. August 2003 @ 04:12 |
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Is someone honestly going to tell me that Optorite, founded two years ago, can create better DVD writers than the Pioneer Corporation. Let me ask another question! Are you honestly trying to tell me that you believe that the quality of Sanyo products are better than that of Pioneer. I tmay look good on paper......but in reality, it will no compare to the Pioneer DVR106. Here is another analogy for you:
Take your Ford Escort (optorite) with a 2 litre engine. Take also a BMW 3 series with a 1.8 litre engine. Which looks better on paper?? Which is better in reality?? Come on guys, dont try and tell me that an 2 year old company producing its first DVD burner is better than the veteran Pioneer company who was the first company ever to make one for the home consumer. **Reality Check people**
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lmadern
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2. August 2003 @ 04:39 |
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Again you miss the point entirely. I don't care that Optorite is made by a company that is 2 years old and that everybody loves Pioneer. I am not saying that the Optorite is better. I am saying that it is faster and that I have had no problems with it. You may like your pioneer. Bully for you.
You have never used the optorite therefore your opinion means crap as far as I'm concerned because at least I have a basis for my opinion whereas your opinion is based on how long optorite has been in business. Pioneer was a new company at one point too!! The only thing that means is that Pioneer is more established and probably has better support. It doesn't mean that it is a better product.
I have at least compared the a06 and optorite drive head to head and I know for a fact that the optorite is faster. So please at least get a well informed opinion instead of a ridiculously biased one.
Reality Check done!!
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brh996
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2. August 2003 @ 05:56 |
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What difference does it make if they've been in business 2 days when we've already established it's just a rebadged drive made by sanyo. I see no reason to deem sanyo's dvd drives lower quality than pioneer's without a serious objective study.
Pioneer's audio equipment (i.e.) home receivers would be consider the ford escort of receivers in comparison with good quality high end brands - i.e. onkyo, denon, Marantz or really high end stuff like lexicon, McIntosh, B&K, etc.
Just because pioneer makes shitty audio equipment doesn't mean their computer components are junk and if that's not the case for pioneer that's not the case for sanyo either.
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2. August 2003 @ 09:10 |
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Both of you are well off the mark.
Firstly, Imadern. As i said before. Im glad you are having success with your drive and i hope it continues. However, you will not find too many people who would put your optorite on the same par as a Pioneer. It just isnt, FACT.
Secondly, brh996, your comparison is very very wrong. Be careful with your analogies. For the home consumer high street market, brands like Sony, panasonic and philips are the market leaders. Pioneer, are the more expensive audiophile and video products. They are a go between the high street consumer and the next stage of semi professional and extreme home users. Your Marantz (which i love and have an SR9300 THX system), denon and other high end audiophile systems are in a completely different category. Please dont compare the two of them. Its like comparing an Escort to a Ferrari. It doesnt work.
Pioneer don't make shitty equipment. Tell me why the Pioneer PDH50 is the most expensive 50" screen with the most features.
Now fellas, wise up, eh ;-)
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brh996
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2. August 2003 @ 23:07 |
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Ok you clearly don't know what you're talkinga about. Pioneer is low end junk in the grand scheme of audio equipment. You've failed to support any of your points and have just thrown out meaningless conjecture and bs opinions based on nothing. Pioneer is not a high end brand in any respect for anything in the grand scheme of things. It's middle of the road at best, period.
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3. August 2003 @ 07:24 |
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Ok - i dont know what im talking about. I didnt work in Rivher Sounds or anything. My mate isnt the manager in there or anything either.
Um...you wanna explain to me how you support your points? My point is supported by the fact that everyone recognises the Pioneer's as the best there is. Optorite isnt used by many poeple at all here.
Nice talking with you, but i dont think you know your head from your arse lol. < Im just kidding there. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, mine is stated, so we'll leave it at that, eh.
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lmadern
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3. August 2003 @ 11:49 |
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Oriphus, the "fact" that many people would prefer the pioneer a06 over the optorite doesn't make the pioneer better. It just makes it more popular and that's all you have been stating in this whole thread. Fine I will concede that the pioneer is a much, much more popular drive than my optorite. But this will be the last time I say this: the optorite is a faster ripper and burner than the A06.
I don't know how much clearer I can get than that. You of course are entitled to your opinion that the optorite is crap but I'll say again that my opinion is based on emperical fact not a majority opinion that you seem so adamant on using.
Fact(me: optorite is faster) vs. opinion(oriphus: pioneer is more popular). That is how I see this thread and in that light we are both correct.
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davidb
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3. August 2003 @ 17:39 |
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I don?t own either one and, frankly, was planning to order one this week. The mentioning of the Optorite dd0203 has sent me plunging into dark recesses of the web looking for test and satisfaction results. For, you see, I want to make one purchase. I don?t have the money, time or desire to buy one model and give it a test ?drive? only to exchange it for another. Initially, I had been watching the Sony. Then I was watching people squirm with the Sony; searching for problem resolutions. Firmware and newer models were released and then I found the Pioneer. Though some had difficulties with the Pioneer, complaints and problems did not seem as prevalent. I found ?my burner?. I chill, however, went down my spine when someone wrote earlier to ?avoid the 106?.
Now along comes the Optorite dd0203. Claims are made that it is a faster CD-R burner and faster DVD reader. I grant that the 24x vs 16x for CD-R?s is significant, however, I guess I am missing something about the DVD read, which appears to both be 12X. Personally, I am not too concerned about the CD-R speed as I would guess that most people getting into DVD+/- already have a CD-RW.
Time will surely tell, Imadern, about the ongoing satisfaction , performance and reliability of the Optorite. It is quite possible that 3 months from now, people like you will continue to sing its praises. I hope it happens for as long as competitive brands/models exist, prices tend to fall and we all benefit.
One last note to point out is that I am not a computer guru. I relied heavily on this site and others for gathering information and opinions on the Sony and Pioneer drives. It is my pessimistic side that tells me that I will run into a snag or two, either with the drive, drivers, firmware, software compatibility, media or a combination of the above. As such, it will be a blessing to rely on the ingenuity of others to solve some of the problems and I have a tendency to think that a more popular model will result in more timely solutions.
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3. August 2003 @ 18:36 |
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Ok .all im getting here is my ford is better then your chevy.
Im a pioneer man got a AO4 and love it.
i got mine to make dvd and games.PX2
and i have a plexor cdr recorder..
you might ask why i didnt keep the sanyo
or soney that came with my Dell.
the crap couldnt read the raw data needed
to copy PX1 back-ups.i went to this www.page
to get the info. www.cdrinfo.com
U SHOULD ALSO LOOK AT THE PLEXTOR DVD.
RECORDERS ALSO.
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