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snakej321
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1. December 2006 @ 18:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey to anyone reading this, I've been a memeber of this forum for awhile, and it's always helped out in terms of technical questions. Anyway onto my problem, as soon as I learned how to properly use the programs (DVD Shrink, DVD Decrpyter, IMGBURN, etc.) I've been buring dvds 100% no coasters for a few years. I've never had problems making 4.7gb dvds, and I still don't. As for the DLs, at first it took me a few trys, and I ended up with some coasters, but I figured it out. About 10 Dls later, I got called out of town on business and ended up gone for about a month, when I came back, I was still was pressed for time so I didn't make any copies for a few more weeks. Then, a few days ago, I tried to make a backup of my newest purchase, Lucky Number Slevin, thinking that I had used all the same programs and techniques, (+ there are no burning problems) but whenever they get in a player, they don't work. They always play on PC, but when it comes to dvd players, (the same players which I played and still play all my other DLs on with no problems) nothing happens when the disc goes in. I use ISOread with Decrypter and burn the .MDS with IMGBURN, and still doesnt work. I double checked the settings and they seem fine too, (although a recap of the correct setting would help) I even changed a few options and tried to re-burn. I have 4 coasters from the different attempts, I even tried using DVD Shrink. If anyone here can help me, I would greatly appreciate it. I can't explain why this is happening, maybe I'm just forgetting something important. Afterdawn memebers are always the most helpful and knowledgeable, so I hope I can get the same support as I have in the past. If you're reading this, thanks for your time.

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1. December 2006 @ 20:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
something weird is going on when this happens to me , as in it worked fine one day and the next day it was goofey, i do a system restore and go back to the day before it started actiny goofy, this works 99.955% of the time , hope that helps good luck happy burning have a nice day
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1. December 2006 @ 23:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
#1 Are you using the same media? Read my sig about quality media, but also understand that if you are using non-Verbatim, you could be using the special 'o' the week that the brand is putting their name on.

#2 Check your "coasters" with DVDIdentifer and see what they're booktyped as. They should booktype as DVD-ROM. If not, that's probably what's causing the trouble.

-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
snakej321
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2. December 2006 @ 11:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm using the exact same media, OS, programs, versions, etc. Can someone just recap how to burn a DVDR+DL with Decrypter and IMGBURN? Thanks
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2. December 2006 @ 19:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1. Set DVD-Decrypter to ISO Read Mode
2. Rip to hard disk, producing an ISO and MDS file.
3. Open IMGBurn and SELECT THE MDS FILE, not the ISO.
4. Click Burn.

HTH.

-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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2. December 2006 @ 20:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
snakej321
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3. December 2006 @ 11:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's exactly what I've been doing, one of the settings in either of the program must be off, because the dvd works fine on PC but will not play on any dvd player. What are the correct setting for each program for burning DLs? Thanks
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3. December 2006 @ 12:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sounds like a media problem and not a burning problem. some disks don't play in certain players. Use Verbatim DLs as they are the best DL media you can get.
snakej321
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3. December 2006 @ 12:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've been using the same discs, and DLs I made 6 months ago still play perfectly. I'm using the same media and same programs that worked in the past, but they don't work anymore...
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3. December 2006 @ 12:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
something is different......... maybe the player is about to go! who knows..... test out your DLs on other machines and see if they play.
snakej321
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3. December 2006 @ 13:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Definitly not the player, infact, my old DLs work on the old player, and the new one I just purchased, while the last few DLs I've burned don't work on either. It must be some kind of region setting or burning setting in IMGBURN or Decrypter
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3. December 2006 @ 13:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
soooooooo what brand of media are you using..... you keep saying that the media is not the problem....... whenever there's a player compatibility problem it usually is the media..... and you never told us what you are using..... what's the old media used and the new media used?
snakej321
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3. December 2006 @ 17:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The reason I haven't named the media is because I don't need to. The DLs that are failing now are from the same pack of the same media that I made perfect backups from a few month ago, which still play on all my players, while the new ones do not. This is why I know it's a software, rather than hardware problem. Can someone please just go over the correct settings necessary to burn a playable DVDR+DL with Decrypter and IMGBURN? Thanks
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3. December 2006 @ 18:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I use ISOread with Decrypter and burn the .MDS with IMGBURN, and still doesnt work.

That's what you first said you were doing, but when I posted the ImgBurn link you now said that's what you are doing????? Nowhere on the ImgBurn link does it talk of using a DVDDecrypter created MDS/ISO file.

The ImgBurn guides always start with the ripped files and use ImgBurn's build function to create and determine the layer break position that will be noted in the MDS/ISO file ImgBurn creates.

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The reason I haven't named the media is because I don't need to.

The folks here who are spending their time trying to help you have asked a simple question.
snakej321
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3. December 2006 @ 19:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I appreciate that people are trying to help me, but I also am not new to this and when people that respond give me the same answers they do to newbies, eventhough when I ask specific questions, it doesn't exactly help. I know what I'm doing, at least enough to know that somethings wrong. I know what isn't causing the problem, and it isn't the media. Like I said, I'm using the same brand, from the same pack that I've made perfect ones from, and I've had four coasters for the same DVD. It also isn't the programs or my burner, all of which are the same from when I burned them perfectly before. The computer hasn't even been updated. I say again that it must be a setting within one of the programs, and I ask the same question again, can someone please just post the proper settings for each program to burn Dls? The link you posted was just to some forum talking about buring with IMGBURN's build mode, I've never used that in the past to create a perfect, playable, DL copy, and I don't need to start now. Appreciate it nonetheless. Forgive me for seeming upset, I'm just frustrated that I have a problem that no one can seem to help me fix, when the people on these boards know just as much as most of the professionals out there. Thanks
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3. December 2006 @ 20:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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talking about buring with IMGBURN's build mode, I've never used that in the past to create a perfect, playable, DL copy, and I don't need to start now.

Well that is THE way to burn DL. LightningUK has been specifically developing/tweaking ImgBurn for that specific reason. It is the number one recommended app to prepare and burn burn DL. And unless it's an older DVD no one uses DVDDecrypter by itself to rip DVDs.

Your assertion that:
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It also isn't the programs or my burner, all of which are the same from when I burned them perfectly before.

Is simply an assumption based on nothing but the anecdotal evidence that they once worked so they still should. Anyone who has spent any time on these forums or done a fair amount of burning realizes the ephemeral nature of such things. If you feel your assumption is correct then the only thing left is your computer. There are no secret settings in the apps you mentioned, the defaults work fine.

I guess it would be best to reformat and start over.

Good Luck.
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4. December 2006 @ 03:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the reason why we (meaning members here trying to help you) are asking questions that you don't want to answer dismissing it as "I know what isn't causing the problem, and it isn't the media" and won't even mention the brand of media but keeps rambling on that "IT'S NOT THE MEDIA IT'S NOT THE MEDIA! IT WORKED BEFORE!" Really doesn't have the experience as you say you do! Because if you know anything about Media you know that even media from the same spindle on some brands can have different quality and can cause problems even though you had success before with the same brand of media! THIS IS THE ONLY REASON WHY WE KEEP ASKING YOU WHAT IS THE BRAND OF MEDIA YOU ARE USING! But, for someone who asks for help and is arrogrant enough to tell us that it's the software and not the media or the hardware is missing something very simple: You asked for help.... we are trying to give you help.... but you are demanding that it's THIS and NOT that shows how inexperienced you really are. A lot of times when you look for something it is hidden right in front of you and you can't recognize it! Don't dismiss something that other's are trying to point out because it's the obvious. 9 times out of 10 the problem lies with the media...... and for you to be stubborn enough to NOT TELL US WHAT YOUR MEDIA IS.....that's showing us that you just want to hear what you want to hear......... so you can ask other people here to agree with you that it's the software or something else cause you want to hear that but more likely not your software but your media! Because Meida is the main reason for incompatibility with players! Why do you thing they booktype +R media to be DVD-ROMs? for compatibility to play in MOST players! to dismiss media as your problem and to be stubborn enough to not even tell us what your media is...... well..... I wish you luck.......I'm done here!
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4. December 2006 @ 04:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You do not state if you are using AnyDVD or DVDFab to rip, as the problem maybe in the fact that the movies you are ripping may not be something Decrypter can handle. You would be better off using AnyDVD with ImgBurn to build your iso, or AnyDVD behind Decrypter/ImgBurn. There were poster who did have difficulties with Lucky Number Slevin, using a more up to date ripping program is a better option.


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