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vinstone
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19. January 2007 @ 15:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have multiple DVD's that have been already ripped using DVD Shrink and then burned using Nero Recode.

I would like to take these DVD's and copy them, making multiple copies. However, I only have the actual DVD and no files saved on my laptop.

What is the best way to do this in Nero 7 Ultra?
What are the steps?

Can I just copy the file from the disc to a new folder and then burn in Nero?
I have no idea how to go about this and it's driving me crazy.

Any help would work!!

Thanks so much
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19. January 2007 @ 15:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can use Nero Express.

Open Nero StartSmart and select Nero Express on the left.
When that opens, select Image,Project,Copy on the left then select Copy Entire DVD.

The Select Source and Destination window opens.
Here you can set the drives you are using and your burn speed. Put your blank in before setting your burn speed though. Otherwise the default settings should be OK.




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19. January 2007 @ 15:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
okay, so i only have one drive. the dvd is currently in that drive. will this copy it to a folder? then burn? i am confused...i'm sorry.
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19. January 2007 @ 16:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No problem, Have to copy the files off the disc to your hard drive.

First make a folder on your desktop to transfer to. I maed one called Fantastic_Four because that's the movie I working with.

Next put the movie in the drive and once it is spun up, open Windows Explorer. Find the drive and expand it to show the AUDIO_TS and the VIDEO_TS folders. Mine looks like this:




Now click your movie folder to open it and then first drag the AUDIO_TS folder into it and then the VIDEO_TS folder over. The transfer will look like this:




This might take a while.

Once you get it all transferedyou can open Nero Burning ROM and use the DVD-Video mode to do the burn.



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20. January 2007 @ 06:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thank you very much!!

so, everything has worked so far up until the burning part.
i followed your directions to a T, but after 9 hours it is only at 4%. something isn't right...

any ideas?
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20. January 2007 @ 10:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
See if you can post your last couple of Nero log files. That will have what I need to look at.
Make sure to remove your Nero serial number. (The 28 digit number at the to of each log.)

Your logs should be here:
C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\NeroHistory.log

Newer Nero 7 versions are saved in:
C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Application Data\Ahead\Nero Burning ROM

Recode logs are saved here:
C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Application Data\Ahead\Nero Recode



You should try burning a regular DVD like you did when you made the copies you are trying to copy. Just to see if that works.

How familiar are you with burning using Nero Burning ROM? I don't think you could even start a burn unless things were set correctly. It will give you warnings if you set something wrong.



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20. January 2007 @ 10:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Okay, here you go...
thanks again for everything!

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/2/2004 12:54:32 PM

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.0.1.2
Internal Version: 7, 0, 1, 2
(Nero Express)
Recorder: <SONY DVD+-RW DW-Q58A> Version: UDS2 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <SONY DVD+-RW DW-Q58A >Version: UDS2 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : SAMSUNG HM120JI atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD+-RW DW-Q58A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
SONY DVD+-RW DW-Q58A D: CDRom0
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1014MB (1038712kB)
Free physical memory: 294MB (302064kB)
Memory in use : 70
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

20.1.2007
UDF/ISO compilation
11:13:21 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
DVD-Video files reallocation started

11:13:22 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

11:13:22 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6411
UDF document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge
UDF Revision : 1.02
UDF Partition Type : physical
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

11:13:22 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
DVD-Video files sorted

11:13:22 PM #5 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 525
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 81920KB of Memory

11:13:22 PM #6 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running

11:13:22 PM #7 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113
Writer D: SONY DVD+-RW DW-Q58A running

11:13:22 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

11:13:22 PM #9 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

11:13:22 PM #10 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3302
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

11:13:23 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 279
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2283631 (507:28.31, 4460MB)

11:13:23 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 291
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

11:13:23 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2578
Recorder: SONY DVD+-RW DW-Q58A, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: CMC MAG, Media Type ID: M01, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 7

11:13:23 PM #14 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 458
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

11:13:23 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2283632 (2283632) = #2283632/507:28.32
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2283632 blocks [D: SONY DVD+-RW DW-Q58A]
--------------------------------------------------------------

11:13:23 PM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
Prepare recorder [D: SONY DVD+-RW DW-Q58A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4676878336, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2283632 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

11:13:23 PM #17 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 36
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

11:13:23 PM #18 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Caching of files started

11:13:23 PM #19 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4132
Cache writing successful.

11:13:23 PM #20 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Caching of files completed

11:13:23 PM #21 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

11:13:23 PM #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

11:13:23 PM #23 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8411
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 7 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: CMC.MAG.
Media type ID: M01
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 07 43 4D 43 20 4D - 41 47 00 4D 30 31 00 38 ...CMC.MAG.M01.8
23 54 37 13 00 44 73 00 - 84 6D 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 #T7..Ds..m......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

11:13:23 PM #24 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 666
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

8:10:27 AM #25 Phase 40 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1412
Aborted by user

8:13:00 AM #26 Phase 39 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Burn process aborted


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/17/2001 11:07:32 AM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.27a, size=20576 bytes, created 1/25/2005 11:03:00 PM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

====== *** Nero Burning ROM, History File *** ======


Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/2/2004 12:54:32 PM

NT-SPTI used
Nero API version: 7.0.1.2
Using interface version: 7.0.0.0
Installed in: C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\
Application: Ahead\Nero Recode
Internal Version: 7, 0, 1, 2

Recorder: <SONY DVD+-RW DW-Q58A> Version: UDS2 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : SAMSUNG HM120JI atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD+-RW DW-Q58A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
SONY DVD+-RW DW-Q58A D: CDRom0
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1014MB (1038712kB)
Free physical memory: 440MB (451560kB)
Memory in use : 56
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

20.1.2007
NeroAPI
8:19:55 AM #1 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 279
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: -1 ( 0:00.-1, 0MB)

8:19:55 AM #2 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 291
Write in overburning mode: NO

8:19:55 AM #3 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2578
Recorder: SONY DVD+-RW DW-Q58A, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: CMC MAG, Media Type ID: M01, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 7

8:19:55 AM #4 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 458
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

8:19:55 AM #5 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 36
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

8:19:55 AM #6 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8411
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 7 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: CMC.MAG.
Media type ID: M01
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 07 43 4D 43 20 4D - 41 47 00 4D 30 31 00 38 ...CMC.MAG.M01.8
23 54 37 13 00 44 73 00 - 84 6D 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 #T7..Ds..m......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

8:19:55 AM #7 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 666
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

8:19:56 AM #8 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1005
Estimated filesystem size: 544

8:19:56 AM #9 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Burn process started at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)

8:20:25 AM #10 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 675
Reserved fragment at 0. Length: 592

8:20:25 AM #11 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1874
Reserved start fragment at 0

8:20:25 AM #12 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 675
Reserved fragment at 592. Length: 64

8:20:25 AM #13 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1401
Writing VTS_01_1.VOB at sector 656

8:40:10 AM #14 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2638
Finished writing file VTS_01_1.VOB of size 1073739776 bytes (524287 sectors)

8:40:10 AM #15 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2249
Added extra file VTS_01_2.VOB

8:40:10 AM #16 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1401
Writing VTS_01_2.VOB at sector 524943

9:08:33 AM #17 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2638
Finished writing file VTS_01_2.VOB of size 1073739776 bytes (524287 sectors)

9:08:33 AM #18 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2249
Added extra file VTS_01_3.VOB

9:08:33 AM #19 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1401
Writing VTS_01_3.VOB at sector 1049230

9:38:19 AM #20 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2638
Finished writing file VTS_01_3.VOB of size 1073739776 bytes (524287 sectors)

9:38:19 AM #21 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2249
Added extra file VTS_01_4.VOB

9:38:19 AM #22 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1401
Writing VTS_01_4.VOB at sector 1573517

10:12:30 AM #23 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2638
Finished writing file VTS_01_4.VOB of size 1073739776 bytes (524287 sectors)

10:12:30 AM #24 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2249
Added extra file VTS_01_5.VOB

10:12:30 AM #25 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1401
Writing VTS_01_5.VOB at sector 2097804

10:23:03 AM #26 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2638
Finished writing file VTS_01_5.VOB of size 380635136 bytes (185857 sectors)

10:23:03 AM #27 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1401
Writing VTS_01_0.BUP at sector 2283661

10:23:03 AM #28 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2638
Finished writing file VTS_01_0.BUP of size 83968 bytes (41 sectors)

10:23:06 AM #29 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1401
Writing VTS_01_0.IFO at sector 592

10:23:33 AM #30 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2618
Successfully released fragment at 592

10:23:33 AM #31 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2638
Finished writing file VTS_01_0.IFO of size 83968 bytes (41 sectors)

10:23:33 AM #32 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1407
Buffering VIDEO_TS.IFO

10:23:33 AM #33 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2580
Finished buffering file VIDEO_TS.IFO of size 6144 bytes (3 sectors)

10:23:33 AM #34 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2638
Finished writing file VIDEO_TS.IFO of size 6144 bytes (3 sectors)

10:23:33 AM #35 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1407
Buffering VIDEO_TS.BUP

10:23:33 AM #36 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2580
Finished buffering file VIDEO_TS.BUP of size 6144 bytes (3 sectors)

10:23:33 AM #37 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2638
Finished writing file VIDEO_TS.BUP of size 6144 bytes (3 sectors)

10:23:33 AM #38 Phase 175 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Finalizing disc started

10:23:33 AM #39 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

10:23:33 AM #40 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

10:23:33 AM #41 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 3258
Writing filesystem of size 1114112 at sector 0

10:23:34 AM #42 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2953
Writing VIDEO_TS.IFO at sector 544

10:23:34 AM #43 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2981
Writing VIDEO_TS.BUP at sector 560

10:24:06 AM #44 Phase 177 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Disc finalized successfully

10:24:10 AM #45 Phase 37 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Burn process completed successfully at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/17/2001 11:07:32 AM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.27a, size=20576 bytes, created 1/25/2005 11:03:00 PM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

====== *** NeroAPI, History File *** ======
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20. January 2007 @ 12:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I see a few issues here that you should correct.

Your Nero needs updated:
Quote:
Nero API version: 7.0.1.2
Using interface version: 7.0.0.0
You need to enable DMA on your Sony:
Quote:
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : SAMSUNG HM120JI atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD+-RW DW-Q58A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off
Guide:
http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/dvdguide005.html

This is a Dell computer I think, let me know if you were able to enable DMA.


Use some different blank DVDs. This is about as bad as it gets:
Quote:
Disc Manufacturer ID: CMC MAG, Media Type ID: M01, Product revision number: 0
Try Verbatim, Taiyo Yuden, Sony made in Japan or Hitachi Maxell.

This shows a successful burn, was it?:
Quote:
10:24:10 AM #45 Phase 37 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Burn process completed successfully at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)




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20. January 2007 @ 13:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So, DMA was already enabled in my primary and secondary.

one of the burns was successful, it just took soooo much longer than normal. 2+ hours.

i might have to get the movies all over again and re-do them that way. this is so frustrating.
vinstone
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20. January 2007 @ 13:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
how do i update my Nero version?
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20. January 2007 @ 14:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can go here for the newest version:
http://www.nero.com/nero7/enu/nero7-up.php

You still show DMA off in the last log you posted
Quote:
CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD+-RW DW-Q58A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off

That and the CMC Mag media may be the cause of the slow burns. Neither one of these issues make for fast burning. A media change alone may speed things up.

DMA off with a Dell PC may or may not cause speed problems. It would not surprise me if you see it on in your device manager and the burn log shows it as off. It's a Dell... Cable select jumper settings and other Dell specific IDE stuff.



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