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The Best of the Best - DVDRW Drive
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AndreL
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25. January 2007 @ 04:49 |
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Look'in for a great DVDRW dirve to Bckup my DVD's I use Shirnkit to put'em on my HD and Nero to put in on +R TY media. I had or should I say have a NEC 4551a that did DL and single layers but after 2 or 3 re-falshes it totally stop doing DL and now only does single layerd DVD's. Now I'm out on the hunt for another DVDRW drive. And look'in for some of U Guz point of view on what the latest and Greatest is out there.
"Side note" - I always bookset by DVD+R to DVD ROM so it needs to beable to do that.
Any help would be appreciated
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25. January 2007 @ 16:38 |
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Hey AndreL
Plextor would be one the best. They're in the $100 range
LiteOn is another great one - I have 3 myself. In the $30-40 range.
LiteOn's to look at SHW-160P6S or LH-18A1P.
Both booktype right out of the box.
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AndreL
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25. January 2007 @ 21:01 |
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So Nec is not a good choice
and I though Plextor were overpriced DVDRW.
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26. January 2007 @ 13:19 |
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NEC are good but can have riplock on them (not sure on the new ones though) which slows the ripping down. Plus only booktype +R DL.
To get around those 2 things you'll need to use patched firmware.
Which voids the warranty (not bad just if you get a lemon by chance)
LiteOn and Plextor booktype all +R and no riplock without any patched firmware.
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26. January 2007 @ 14:57 |
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If you can find them, Benq 1640A and the 1650A.Very scarce. Lite-on bought out Benq,so no more Phenomenal booktyping benq drives. Lots of Benq 1620's around,they are also very sweet and very hard to kill them.
Some of the plextor are rebadges-using a lot of rebadged benqs-but costing a lot more than a benq. If you can locate the PX-716A it's one of the best.
Lite-on and LG are also some fine booktyping drives,just I don't know what the hottest model #'s are. With all these drives going to dvd-ram capability, they use totally different chip settings.
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bui_jsph
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26. January 2007 @ 16:17 |
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Pioneer 111D is a great drive. Although you can't booktype out of the box. Just get the Buffalo firmware and it will automatically booktype DVD+R to DVD-ROM. Plus Pioneer is one of the best selling DVDRW drivers on newegg.com.
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AndreL
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28. January 2007 @ 08:26 |
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Originally posted by binkie7:
Plus only booktype +R DL.
Isn't that the only type you can booktype
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28. January 2007 @ 09:03 |
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You can booktype +R,+RW,and +RDL media-depending on the drive and the firmware.
Some drive can booktype +RDL media like the NEC 3500 series.They also have hacked firmware to booktype-usually NEC and Pioneer drives.
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AndreL
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28. January 2007 @ 12:03 |
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Oh but all those are +R media, I thought you were talking about booktypeing -R
My bad .... ;)
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Jimmy2e
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1. February 2007 @ 17:13 |
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The best out there as of now (Or at one of the most expensive $130) is the HP DVD 840E Lightscribe burner (external). I have one and it works beautifully, ive burned over 300 DVDs with it since Christmas and haven't had a single coaster. I usually burn at 16x and it burns one within 3 minutes.
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1. February 2007 @ 23:42 |
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HP for dvd burners?
LMFAO!
Most of them won't even booktype. Good luck on firmware updates.
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AndreL
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6. February 2007 @ 09:17 |
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How about the LG GSA-H22N
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caucano
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9. February 2007 @ 06:06 |
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I recently move to the U.S. and had to leave my BenQ 1650 at back in Canada :( I am now looking for a new drive and see that it is impossible to find the 1650! So liteOn bought out BenQ? Maybe its worth looking into the LiteOn drives. Also what do you guys think of the "new" (I don't know how new they are really) SATA drives?
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9. February 2007 @ 11:10 |
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I don't know much about sata drives,but they cost a lot more and not many manufacturers make them. The Plextor px716SA would be the top dog for them. Usually they run around $200,but I saw some almost new ones on ebay for around $85 including shipping-very cheap!!!!
Same goes for the Plextor 716A. There were a bunch of them also on sale there-barely used-running under $75 including shipping.
I did pick up a slightly used Benq 1650 for $53 there,including 100 verbatim and ritek blanks. That's the only place to find benq drives,and usually used.
Lite-on did buy them up,so I don't know what the top (hot) model numbers would be for them. I am well stocked up on benq drives: 2-1650s,1640,and 2 -1620s and all are very sweet drives.
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caucano
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9. February 2007 @ 12:00 |
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shoot, oh well. I guess I'll get a LiteOn since I do use the booktyping and it seems that these drives have that. Would any of you now what would be the best quality burner for LiteOns? I liked the 1650 for its 97%+ burns under Nero, sigh, I hope I find a replacement. they have a couple of 20x burners now. and yep the SATA drives are expensive. Just thinking of getting one since the ide connection is dying.
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AndreL
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24. February 2007 @ 21:35 |
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Why are Plextor drive so expensive all the other drives max out in price around $80 bucks but the Plextor rounds it out around 100 so whats up.
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24. February 2007 @ 21:53 |
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It's all in the name + they have quality factor to support when the drives are made by them.
I stick with my LiteOn's cause over the years they have done well by me. Though I still use some non LiteOn drves too. variety :)
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haza12d
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26. February 2007 @ 11:10 |
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May I suggest the Samsung SE-S184 (SH-S182). My old drives (BenQ DW1640 Lite-ON SOHW1633S)wore out and the extended warranty gave me the option of picking up a couple of these drives a few weeks ago from Best Buy. They do a great job, giving me an average of 98% of quality using Nero CD/DVD-Speed. Both are pretty quiet, Lightscribe capable, and booktype +R media to ROM, but are a bit bulky as they are external drives.
@Saugmon
I know what you mean about HP, I had one for two weeks and talk about bad burns off these things...never again...
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Yujenh
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26. February 2007 @ 18:17 |
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@haza12d
Well, i'll have to disagree with you about samsung 182. I had the
drive and I just hate it. It was one of the worst burner I ever had. I got it as gift from somebody and i used it for less then 50 burns. I am totally hooked on px-716a they are really the best burner i have. I think they even out perform the legendary benq 1640.
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haza12d
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26. February 2007 @ 19:25 |
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@Yujenh
I see, how very unfortunate for you. Any specific issues why you dislike the drive? Recording/Playback problems? Media incompatibilities? The only issues I have with this drive is that at times the 16x MCC-04 I have can't burn at 18x, plus the LED for reading/burning is the same color =) Let me know about the problems that you've had and maybe I'll return these for something else next week...
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Yujenh
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27. February 2007 @ 08:09 |
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Well, the burned quality is just not there. What I meant by that
is the Nero scan it usually comes out in low 90s (90~94) and I only burned it at 8x. With other burners like DW1640 or 1650 or PX716 they scan out to be at least mid to high 90s (95~98). I know the Nero scan thing is bit overrated itself but I just dont think the Samsung 182 is great burner. I am not saying its worst burner out there, all i am saying is that its just not near the top.
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haza12d
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4. March 2007 @ 10:44 |
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What type of media were you using when you did these burns with the Samsung? Ever burn @ 4X instead of 8X? Also could you list what programs you were using? Just trying to get info on methods you used that gave you the best results for the SH-S182M. Thanks.
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4. March 2007 @ 15:09 |
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im looking at the Pioneer DVR-112D 18X DVD. has anyone gotten one of these orheard anything about them? is it compatible with the Nero cd/dvd speed test? does it need the buffalo firmware to booktype also? thanks for any help/info.
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5. March 2007 @ 06:58 |
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I would definitely recommend the 112. It doesn't scan reliably (as always), but just pair it with a scanning drive. It is STILL probably the best BURNER (as far burn quality) out there. The Buffalo firmware is readily available (to booktype single layer +R).
I have my 112 paired with a Plex 760. I love it as much as my legendary 109!!! I also have a BenQ 1640, LG 4163, LiteOn 1693, and a LiteOn 160P6S. As far as strictly burn quality on quality +R AND -R media, I would rate Pioneer 1st, LG and BenQ tied at 2nd, then Plextor (because of OPC spikes on MCC004 media) and Lite Ons. If you factor in scanning ability, it changes to BenQ first, LiteOn 2nd, then Plextor (limited support for 3rd party utilities) then Pioneer and LG. As far as ripping speed, Plex 760- hands down, then BenQ, followed by LiteOn, then Pioneer and LG.
You just have to balance out which features are most important to you. But, as I started out saying, if you already have a scanning drive, then the Pioneer is an EXCELLENT choice!!!
EDIT: I neglected to mention, I use TY (in both formats) 95% of the time and the occassional Verb. With other media of varying quality, performance may differ, but I don't bother with anything less than the best! With quality media, ANY of the mentioned drives will perform beautifully. Just a few quality points here or there. I have had ZERO playback issues with quality media with any of my drives, and I am basing my ranking on pure numbers from the scanning that I have performed... Honestly, you wouldn't notice a difference from playback alone...
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6. March 2007 @ 21:37 |
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Originally posted by binkie7:
NEC are good but can have riplock on them (not sure on the new ones though) which slows the ripping down. Plus only booktype +R DL.
To get around those 2 things you'll need to use patched firmware.
Which voids the warranty (not bad just if you get a lemon by chance)
LiteOn and Plextor booktype all +R and no riplock without any patched firmware.
go to dangerous brothers page
booktyping and riplock is an easy "get around"
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