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SuperXP
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18. February 2007 @ 21:55 |
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One word, PANASONIC. Find a Panasonic Plasma with 1080p, 10,000:1 or more contrast & you have yourself the best Plasma & Price on the market period. They come in 42", 50", 52", 58" & 65"
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19. February 2007 @ 07:23 |
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I think the 65inch is the only 1080p monitor in the group.
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19. February 2007 @ 09:28 |
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m4p
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19. February 2007 @ 13:01 |
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SuperXP,
that 42" is not 1080p. From the link:
"The resolution of 1024 x 720p supports display signals up to 1080i and 720p"
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m4p
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19. February 2007 @ 13:04 |
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Unfortunately the 58" Panasonic is also not true 1080p, although it can accept 1080p, but can only display in it's native resolution of 1366 x 768p:
"Display Capabilities 480i/480p, 720p/1080i
Display Technology Plasma
HDTV Compatible Yes
Native Resolution 1366x768p"
With that said, I don't think there would be a really big difference, and the Panasonics are great plasmas. I wish I could get a plasma but we have too much light in the room so there would be lots of glare/reflection.
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SuperXP
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19. February 2007 @ 13:21 |
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Originally posted by m4p:
SuperXP,
that 42" is not 1080p. From the link:
"The resolution of 1024 x 720p supports display signals up to 1080i and 720p"
Here is the Quote:
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1080p Digital Processing
This Panasonic plasma TVs is equipped with HDMI terminals and a new digital processor that are compatible with 1080p digital video signals. This will ensure that you will have complete access to all that 1080p and next generation digital sources, such as Blu-ray Disc and HD-DVD players, have to offer.
Regardless of its native res, as long as you have a 1080p source, these Plasmas will be able to display @ full 1080p.
Here is another Quote:
[quote]Display Capabilities
Broadcast Format Displayed 720p (HDTV) ? 480p (EDTV) ? 480i (SDTV)
Broadcast Format Supported 1080p (HDTV)
Built-in Tuner NTSC ? PAL ? SECAM ? DVB
Native Aspect Ratio 16:9
Interpolated Aspect Ratio 4:3, 14:9[/quote
http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-Panasonic-TH42PX60WALL
Also, reading up on a few customer reviews, they have no problem siplaying full 1080p.
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SuperXP
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19. February 2007 @ 13:26 |
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O.K. I see what the problem is now. 1080p only works for these models via HDMI Only.
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HDTV Display Capability (1080p ? HDMI Only)
Certain Panasonic TVs enable you to view 1080p High-Definition video content. In order to do so, the TV must be connected via its HDMI input to a 1080p source (such as a HD-DVD Player, video game system or multi-media PC) and the source must be setup to output a 1080p video signal.
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19. February 2007 @ 20:16 |
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[quote=m4p]SuperXP,
that 42" is not 1080p. From the link:
"The resolution of 1024 x 720p supports display signals up to 1080i and 720p"
Here is the Quote:
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1080p Digital Processing
This Panasonic plasma TVs is equipped with HDMI terminals and a new digital processor that are compatible with 1080p digital video signals. This will ensure that you will have complete access to all that 1080p and next generation digital sources, such as Blu-ray Disc and HD-DVD players, have to offer.
Regardless of its native res, as long as you have a 1080p source, these Plasmas will be able to display @ full 1080p.
Here is another Quote:
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Display Capabilities
Broadcast Format Displayed 720p (HDTV) ? 480p (EDTV) ? 480i (SDTV)
Broadcast Format Supported 1080p (HDTV)
Built-in Tuner NTSC ? PAL ? SECAM ? DVB
Native Aspect Ratio 16:9
Interpolated Aspect Ratio 4:3, 14:9[/quote
http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-Panasonic-TH42PX60WALL
Also, reading up on a few customer reviews, they have no problem siplaying full 1080p.
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I dont think so. It displays its native res. Even if you input 60000x2000p (if there is such a thing) they still will dispay the native res of the set.
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error5
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20. February 2007 @ 02:43 |
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Regardless of its native res, as long as you have a 1080p source, these Plasmas will be able to display @ full 1080p.
This is incorrect - cheezzz and m4p are right. Plasmas are fixed pixel displays. Even if they can accept a 1080p signal this is downscaled to the native resolution. A 720p or 768p set cannot display full 1080p because it doesn't have enough pixels. What you see from the 1080p source is a downscaled 720p or 768p picture.
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20. February 2007 @ 06:14 |
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Good news 1080p plasmas are coming this year more varity it will kick a$$ their are soe 1080p plasmas but they are $$$$$$
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SuperXP
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20. February 2007 @ 07:01 |
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Sorry guys, I would have to disagree with you. I went into Best Buy & Future Shop, I seen the models I posted above, these Plasma's have two types of native res. The original is by Component Video where as the HDMI is 1920 x 1080p (FULL 1080p) no downscaling.
The guy there said that some of these plasmas have a new digital processor or something which will support full 1080p but only though HDMI input. This is what was told to me, and they also showed me an example using a HD-DVD player with the new movie superman.
He showed me via Component Video, and switched on 480p, 720p, 1080i, but 1080p would not work, then he used the HDMI input, and 1080p worked just fine, which you can see a difference in clarity & in the blacks of the plasma display.
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SuperXP
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20. February 2007 @ 07:06 |
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I did some reading up on native resolution, and this does not mean that its the max res for that display. It only means it is the default res for the display.
My monitor at home has a native res of 1200 x 1024, but I game on it with 1600 x 1200 w/ 85Hz refresh rate.
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jwerner
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20. February 2007 @ 07:20 |
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All plasmas are fixed pixel displays. Native resolution tells you exactly the number of pixels in that particular display. No matter if the plasma allows 1080p through one of it's inputs (universally it's going to be the HDMI input), it will only show the number of pixels of the plasma's native resolution. So, if it does accept 1080p, or 1080i for that matter, a native 760p set is still actually showing you a 760p resolution maximum due to the native resolution.
Almost always a "down-ressed" 1080p looks better than any other resolution, but make no mistake you are not seeing full 1080p unless the display device you are watching has a native 1080p resolution AND...YOU MUST BE INPUTTING A 1080p SIGNAL THROUGH THE 1080p CAPABLE HDMI INPUT! Right now only Panasonic and Pioneer are selling 1080p plasmas in the USA. They are very expensive currently. Costc* was carrying both but since last week only the 65" inch model was available at about $8K. It's still cheaper than the Pioneer model however.
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20. February 2007 @ 07:21 |
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Originally posted by SuperXP:
these Plasma's have two types of native res. The original is by Component Video where as the HDMI is 1920 x 1080p (FULL 1080p) no downscaling.
I think you're confusing INPUT signals to actual display OUTPUT. Like error5, cheezzz and m4p have said plasma panels have a fixed number of pixels which is their native resolution - for example 1280x720. No matter what signal you put into this display the output is still 1280x720. Even if it can accept 1080p thru HDMI the display is still 1280x720 because that's the number of pixels that you have in the panel. You can't get a 1080p picture from a 720p panel because there's not enough pixels in the panel for a 1920x1080 picture.
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SuperXP
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20. February 2007 @ 09:31 |
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O.K. guys, I understand your point about the native resolution. I must have mis-understood somewhere along the lines.
I guess we should just wait for 42" & 50" Plasma's with a native res of 1080p.
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20. February 2007 @ 10:08 |
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Kewl!
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SuperXP
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20. February 2007 @ 12:56 |
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The info was from Panasonic Tech support. But there is a shit load of 1080p displays coming out, and by the end of 2007, 1080p will be the industry standard thanks to HD-DVD & Blu-ray players & there native 1080p support.
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m4p
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20. February 2007 @ 15:42 |
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Originally posted by SuperXP:
O.K. guys, I understand your point about the native resolution. I must have mis-understood somewhere along the lines.
I guess we should just wait for 42" & 50" Plasma's with a native res of 1080p.
Take Care,
That's ok, it took me a while to finally understand all this hi def stuff. It can be very confusing for sure.
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SuperXP
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20. February 2007 @ 16:39 |
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Yes, LOL I agree.
Oh, I was told that when you watch Blu-ray 1080p movies on the PlayStation 3 with a full 1080p supported TV, for some reason it down converts it to 720p due to the Blu-ray software having problems. ? I am not sure about this info, but I will look into it.
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error5
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20. February 2007 @ 17:43 |
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Originally posted by SuperXP:
Oh, I was told that when you watch Blu-ray 1080p movies on the PlayStation 3 with a full 1080p supported TV, for some reason it down converts it to 720p due to the Blu-ray software having problems. ?
I have no problems getting a 1080p signal from my PS3 to my 1080p XBR3 HDTV during BluRay movie playback. The connection is thru HDMI with the latest PS3 software update. Those experiencing problems probably don't have the correct video settings in the PS3 setup menu.
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SuperXP
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20. February 2007 @ 18:23 |
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I spoke to him again, and he is still telling me that PS3 has problems displying 1080p. He did not give me a link with info though? I did read somewhere that a PS3 without HDMI will not be able to do full 1080p.
Anyway, you are proof enough that PS3 does indead do full 1080p via HDMI. I will tell him this as soon as I finish typing this.
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24. February 2007 @ 03:54 |
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Hello All,
Just a quick hit, lets say you make a mistake on your PS3 and select 1080p output when your tv is really 1080i. Some people think now they have no one to change the setting unless they connect to a true 1080p tv..this is not so. All you have to do is hold down power button after you turn it on... a screen will pop up and try to set your reolution to the native resolution of the tv. Very helpful!
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error5
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24. February 2007 @ 04:02 |
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Originally posted by bluray79:
Hello All,
Just a quick hit, lets say you make a mistake on your PS3 and select 1080p output when your tv is really 1080i. Some people think now they have no one to change the setting unless they connect to a true 1080p tv..this is not so. All you have to do is hold down power button after you turn it on... a screen will pop up and try to set your reolution to the native resolution of the tv. Very helpful!
Actually, if you choose an incorrect resolution or a resolution that's not supported by your display - the screen will go blank then after 30 seconds the PS3 will revert back to the previous resolution.
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24. February 2007 @ 04:04 |
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true...but idiots like me who lost the screen started smashing buttons so i hit the buttom that told it was ok...lol...yeah I know impatiences is a bit*h.
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