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4. March 2007 @ 14:18 |
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Just wondering, apologize if this is a lame question, but, Is there a noticeable difference between using the component connection from my HD cable box to hd tv, as compared to an HDMI cable? I just noticed that cableguy only hooked up the rca jacks to component.
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4. March 2007 @ 17:45 |
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I have heard there is an improvement with HDMI cables. I am waiting for 3, that I ordered for 4.19 apiece. I'll let you know. Mine was recently just connected with a component cable when I got it last week.
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4. March 2007 @ 19:13 |
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Originally posted by missing30:
Just wondering, apologize if this is a lame question, but, Is there a noticeable difference between using the component connection from my HD cable box to hd tv, as compared to an HDMI cable? I just noticed that cableguy only hooked up the rca jacks to component.
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More color saturation with the component cables as far as I can see. But my set mimics a plasma set when using the HDMI connection. (with proper tweaking, of course)
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5. March 2007 @ 02:59 |
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Also, is the audio signal is carried by the HDMI cable?
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5. March 2007 @ 03:00 |
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yes it carries video and audio.
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5. March 2007 @ 06:37 |
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HDMI carries the Component Video or RGB color spaces for video (and with v1.3 the xvYCC color space is also supported). There is no difference in video quality under optimal conditions. The plus for HDMI is that it is all digital and preforms better over a broad array of products for cheap. It preforms better with Digital TV because HDMI carries a digital signal that doesn't have to be convert from analog. That is the video benefit.
It also "can" carry all audio formats which makes it a clear choice for anyone that cares about aesthetics more than performance (i.e. The Wife) because it provides all Audio/Video services through one cable (instead of four or five).
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5. March 2007 @ 10:23 |
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I changed over from the components type to HDMI yesterday and did not notice much of a difference, if at all. I think I may have "convinced" myself that it might be a little better simply because I had been told that it would be better. It is definitely more asthetic to have 1 cable vs 3.
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5. March 2007 @ 10:35 |
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@diablos
Thanks for clearing that up.
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Backed up any of those red DVD lately?
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5. March 2007 @ 10:54 |
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It doesn't always carry the audio. It depends on the output. Some cable boxes have a DVI output. You then need a DVI to HDMI connector which will require separate audio connections.
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5. March 2007 @ 13:33 |
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I've got the HDMI out available, as well as component out which includes left an right audio, my plan was to use the l/r audio out to the 5.1 system i just got as a hand-me-down, and the HDMI w/audio to television, but then i noticed a r.c.a. looking jack that is labeled digital out. I tried it to the rca looking jack "coax in" on the 5.1 and audio worked, (have not checked the quality of the sound though, just that there was audio). Are you familiar with the "digital out" or the "coax in" jacks?
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5. March 2007 @ 15:07 |
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Nope, no red DVDs. I bought several packs of the 16X OD media and I am on my next to last 50-pack. Think I am going to pick up some TY next. Used a lot of Verbatim and OD discs, but never used TY. Might do some printables -- bought an Epson R200 3-4 months ago, and never used it to print on the disc.
Just another thought re: the HDMI cable. Does it make any sense at all to have the HDMI and the component cables hooked up at the same time. Someone at work said yes, but that, to me, seems to defeat the purpose of the HDMI.
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5. March 2007 @ 15:28 |
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That doesn't make sense. I guess you could. I can toggle between Component and HDMI connections. I get the best HD picture from an old TV antenna lying in attic off the air.
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5. March 2007 @ 15:43 |
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Are those red dvd's HP's by any chance?
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5. March 2007 @ 15:56 |
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Having both cables hooked up at first just gives you a comparison between the two.
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5. March 2007 @ 16:10 |
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Those red ones were the Blockbuster red DVDs with the embedded chip that enabled them to tell if your copied their disc!
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5. March 2007 @ 16:38 |
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D'oh
upon further research my question was really ignorant.
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5. March 2007 @ 18:04 |
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It doesn't always carry the audio. It depends on the output.
HDMI (as in HDMI-HDMI) "can" always carries audio. DVI is a video only connection technology that came before HDMI, not a different type of HDMI connector. If you use an HDMI device with a DVI device of course you won't get audio.
I posted this so that no one will confuse an HDMI connector with a DVI connector. HDMI is fully backward compatible with the video portion of DVI-D (but not DVI-I or DVI-A) but is a totally different technology.
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10. March 2007 @ 00:46 |
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Connected my new flat panel with HDMI cable to a Cox Motorola DVR box. The problem is that the HDMI cable out connection does not permit the cable remote to adjust the audio volume like it does with component connection. Strange. I had to use set remote to adjust volume. I'm back to component cables. Picture was not noticeably better with HDMI.
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10. March 2007 @ 09:52 |
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Originally posted by garmoon:
@diablos
Connected my new flat panel with HDMI cable to a Cox Motorola DVR box. The problem is that the HDMI cable out connection does not permit the cable remote to adjust the audio volume like it does with component connection. Strange. I had to use set remote to adjust volume. I'm back to component cables. Picture was not noticeably better with HDMI.
Maybe you need to reprogram the cable box remote? Just a thought.
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10. March 2007 @ 11:49 |
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I don't understand you. Are you saying that when you switched to HDMI your cable box remote stopped controlling the volume on the TV? But when you put component on it did? That doesn't make sense especially if the tv remote still changed the volume.
I remember saying that the picture quality would be the same in optimal conditions because HDMI "can" pass Component Video (digitally). If your Component Video outputs are connected to good DACs and the inputs are connected to good ADCs then your picture will be similar to an all digital connection. Although I find that the picture has more stability when it doesn't go through a lot of Analog to digital conversions.
HDMI is better because it does everything on one easy to install (and look at) cable. It will not change the quality of the picture altogether by its self.
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I just read a few other of your posts garmoon. If you are trying to change the volume from the source than no it shouldn't work. I don't know why you want to control volume from the source anyway. Its not how that feature is suppose to be used. Your cable box's analog audio master volume should be set to an good volume for recording and watching tv if applicable. But the tv should control the the volume coming from it's speakers (thats why tv remotes have volume controls).
Like cheezzzz said, you need to program your remote!
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10. March 2007 @ 12:43 |
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When I first connected the TV to Cox DVR Box, I did it thru the component cable that Cox gave me (5Male RCA plugs on each end-3 video and L-R Audio). Connected that way I could (had to) change the cable box channel with cable remote. So when I replaced component with HDMI cable, I got picture and audio as planned. But now I had to change the Volume with the TV Remote because as you said the audio output was constant from the cable box (I couldn't change volume with cable remote-only with TV remote. Since the cable remote has all the TV guide menus and DVR controls I figured I'd be using its remote for everything. And I can if connected thru component. Comprende?
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11. March 2007 @ 10:07 |
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What I am saying is that your cable box remote should allow you to set it up so that it's volume buttons control the tv's volume and not the cable box output (like the TV remote). There is no reason to have to swap remotes.
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11. March 2007 @ 14:06 |
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@diablos
That's what I'm saying the cable remote will adjust the volume for output audio from the box connected with component cables , but it has no effect on the volume if connected to TV with HDMI. The cable remote is only capable of turning the TV on and off. It cannot do anything else to my Samsung LCD but that. No volume or change channels if on antenna, or any menu adjustments. I would have also thought that the cable remote could adjust the cable box output from the HDMI connection, but no!
I have also programed my Samsung remote and it won't do anything with the motorola box. I can't even turn the box off much less change a channel or open the gude menus. And I've gone thru all the codes fromm 000-074. There is no way to use just one remote.
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11. March 2007 @ 14:21 |
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That sucks. I have been out with the installer that works in our store to help lift a plasma or something like that many times. No matter if it is HD DirecTV or Time Warner Cable HD we are always able to get at least the Power and Volume for the TV working on the set top box remote. Maybe your box don't offer this feature but it would seem like a big disadvantage for you, as their customer, as this functionality is available to many others.
Time Warner in my area uses Scientific Atlanta boxes. I have never had a problem with the remote not working with those (Friends, Family, and Customers considered).
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11. March 2007 @ 18:06 |
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Originally posted by missing30:
I've got the HDMI out available, as well as component out which includes left an right audio, my plan was to use the l/r audio out to the 5.1 system i just got as a hand-me-down, and the HDMI w/audio to television, but then i noticed a r.c.a. looking jack that is labeled digital out. I tried it to the rca looking jack "coax in" on the 5.1 and audio worked, (have not checked the quality of the sound though, just that there was audio). Are you familiar with the "digital out" or the "coax in" jacks?
To answer this, you should definitely go with the digital out (coax) from the cable box to the receiver vs the L/R out. Even if you decide to use the component cables. Just turn off the speakers on the T.V. The coax digital will pass up to 5.1 audio on your system vs. L/R 2 channel audio which will only allow psuedo surround i.e. pro-logic, or PLx.
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