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x1900 crossfire vs 8800 ?
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chamonofx
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14. June 2007 @ 03:10 |
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Hello. Please fan boys stay away from here. I am a neutral pc enthusiast who has an ati x1900 xtx and is thinking about buying a x1900 crossfire master OR selling the one I got and buying another card: 8800 GTX or one less expensive, 8800 GTS 320mb or 640mb maybe? or radeon hd 2900 xt? I was searching for a while and couldn't find a decent benchmark that showed x1900 crossfire performing vs 1 single new generation card (like 8800 gtx, etc , the ones mentioned above). Please any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
EDIT: sorry I forgot to say I have a conroe e6600 running at 3.15 per core, 2gb mem, and ocz 700w power supply (so psu power is not an issue fortunately)
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14. June 2007 @ 18:01 |
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Plain and simple 1 newer card is better than 2 older cards period. In a year those 2 cards will be outdate, while on the other hand the nVidia 8800 will still be a fairly decent piece of hardware. Plus you get DirectX 10 support.
"Some people have no damn sense." - Nephilim, March 27 2007 @ 18:08 |
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chamonofx
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14. June 2007 @ 23:02 |
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Yeah you're right, I shouldn't be thinking about crossfire here, but getting a new one. I think that 8800 gts 320mb is gonna be my choice. Thanks dude.
PS im not worried about dx10, i think that by the time i play anything on dx10 i probably sold this card already and got a new one :)
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15. June 2007 @ 12:02 |
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Sounds good, glad to help. Also look for a card with at least a 256 mb memory interface.
"Some people have no damn sense." - Nephilim, March 27 2007 @ 18:08
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16. June 2007 @ 02:16 |
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8800GTS is a cheaper solution. It may not bag you quite as many frames per second in the games that support crossfire, but in the overwhelming majority that don't, the 8800GTS will also be significantly faster, not to mention quieter, smaller, cooler. In fact, there really isn't a lot going for the Crossfire solution. Don't get me wrong I'm hardly an nVidia fanboy, I haven't used one of their cards for nearly 4 years, but right now, the 8800 is the only realistic option for high performance.
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16. June 2007 @ 16:14 |
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How does the Nvidia 8800 series compare to the Radeon HD 2000 series? I have a 7950 GT OC and have thought about upgrading it sometime, not right away though. So I was kind of wondering which one was doing better at the moment? But then again I've herd something about a new 8900 coming out also (but I don't know when), so that might be something to consider but it would depend on the price.
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16. June 2007 @ 18:06 |
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I'll tell it like it is (no fanboyism, just truth):
8800GTS: Cheap, fast, quiet
8800GTX: Expensive, very fast, quiet but hot
HD2900XT: Quite expensive, not very fast, very loud and very hot.
Go for an 8800 every time.
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16. June 2007 @ 20:12 |
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Yea then it sounds like it's something from the 8800 series for me. The 7950 I have now already runs way too hot for me. It gets to around 90 C with GRAW. And thats with a slot fan installed! Sorry, off topic, but just wondering. Thanks for the info.
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17. June 2007 @ 03:38 |
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90C is actually fine for a graphics card, lots of them run that hot. The 8800s don't, but my X1900 did, until I replaced the cooler with a Thermalright one.
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17. June 2007 @ 06:49 |
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Oh, ok. Well that helps alot, I was afraid I was going to fry it soon because of the high temps all the time. My old 7300 LE didn't get above 70 C, so this one just scared me. But if others run that hot too I guess I'm fine.
Thanks for letting me know that before I went and bought another cooler for it.
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17. June 2007 @ 08:16 |
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If I'm honest, there isn't much in a 7300LE to get hot!
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17. June 2007 @ 09:58 |
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Yea I know that card sucked. But it came with the computer. I didn't have it very long.
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17. June 2007 @ 15:33 |
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I did the same in 2004, bought a PC with a Radeon 9200 in it and quickly upgraded to an X800 pro within 6 months.
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chamonofx
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18. June 2007 @ 04:11 |
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hey guys thanks so much for your responses
and yeah 90 c for a video card is not that bad
my x1900xtx runs at like 80-90 every time
I think Ill go with the 8800GTS 320MB cos the 640 is too expensive for me...
EDIT: just so you know, 90 C for a processor would be VERY VERY HOT
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18. June 2007 @ 05:21 |
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Indeed it would. Anything above the 55C mark is undesirably hot. Stock processors can run up to about 70C before serious issues occur, but 55C is about the limit before overclocked CPUs start to become unstable. The Thermal emergency shutdown for CPUs is between 80C and 100C typically. GPUs are happy to go up to 130.
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chamonofx
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18. June 2007 @ 05:42 |
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yeah my e6600 overclocked (not too overclocked, just 3.15ghz i didnt want to put more voltage to it) runs at 50 loaded, and 32 idle.
Of course, i dont trust core temp, otherwise my house would have burned, cos the damn thing shows always like 85.
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18. June 2007 @ 06:16 |
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Everest is usually a reliable measurement of temperatures, even if it sometimes gets them the wrong way round!
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18. June 2007 @ 08:19 |
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Then I guess I don't have to worry about heat. Before I found out my graphics card is safe at 90 C I got it down to 65 C or 70 C on a full load. And my CPU runs at around 33 C Idle, and 40 C on a full load.
Sorry kind of off topic but he decided what graphics card to get already anyway. And now I have decided what my next card will be also, unless the 8900 series is decently cheap but I doubt it will be.
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18. June 2007 @ 22:39 |
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I'm glad so many people contributed to this post, with no fan boy war at all. Can't believe so many people defend brands like they make money out of them...
BTW I have a scythe ninja plus on my core 2 duo E6600 which runs at 3.15ghz, and still get temps of 50-55 C on a full load / 30-32 C idle(with an ambient temperature of like 28 C), and my case is the aerocool with the 25cm fan on a side, and the 10 cm fan on front, with 2 fan extractors on the back...Oh and with no extra voltage in the OC.
EDIT: I forgot to type my question, my question is how come you keep it so low on load? what's your ambient temp please?
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19. June 2007 @ 04:27 |
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Those temps are characteristic of the Scythe Ninja running passively. I'm going to guess you don't have a fan attached to the heatsink itself, only one in the case behind it. Having a fan attached to the heatsink makes a surprising amount of difference to the load temps with a Ninja.
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chamonofx
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19. June 2007 @ 05:45 |
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hmm no, i didn't attach a fan to the heatsink! dude, you sure it makes a good difference? I think im gonna attach one today to test it!
EDIT: THANKS!
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19. June 2007 @ 08:38 |
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I'm glad so many people contributed to this post, with no fan boy war at all. Can't believe so many people defend brands like they make money out of them...
Yea I think it's incredibly stupid. I might like a certain brand better but I'm not going to argue about it especially to somebody I don't really know. I buy what I actually like, or what ever is the fastest or the best at the time is, for the best price. Truthfully, I've never bought an ATI graphics card. But I do feel like last time when I bought the Nvidia 7950 GT I should have got an ATI X1900 or better, instead. I lag in alot of games that I don't feel like I should, like Oblivion for example. But I am also the same with AMD vs Intel. In the past I have bought mostly AMD and my current processor is a 5000+ X2. But I bought it before the Core 2 Duo line was all out and was mainstream. As of now I wish I would have waited a few weeks an gotten a Core 2 Duo. Same goes with HD-DVD and Blu-ray, and Xbox vs Playstation. I generally like one thing better but I am open to getting something else if it's better.
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19. June 2007 @ 12:07 |
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As it happens I've not bought an nVidia card for 5 years, but that wouldn't stop me buying one, and I intend to upgrade to one soon.
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chamonofx
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19. June 2007 @ 22:33 |
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same thing with me, i usually had amds, now i got an e6600 cos it was the best option; have had nvidia most of the time, now i have a x1900xtx cos i thought was the best option at the time, but im going back to nvidia soon cos i think it is the best option now; ive had playstation and xbox, now i have a 360; and still no bluray or hddvd... but i think ill go with hddvd unless i get a play3 heh
ive seen people defending one brand over another for a thousand times, perfect examples the ones above. Even with no arguments at all, or with very similar products with very similar prices. Or even worse, defending the worse product at the moment. Dumb fanboys, I wonder if they realize how dumb they are. I buy what i consider the best option at the time, i get no money from any of those companies!
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19. June 2007 @ 22:38 |
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You sound exactly like me because I don't understand having to have a certain brand all the time just because they made one good product once either. I also usually have AMD processors and Nvidia graphics cards, but have had a few Intel and a few ATI. I also will more than likely go with HD-DVD just mainly because it's so much cheaper and looks almost exactly the same.
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