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IDE and SATA together help plz
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lazytitan
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18. June 2007 @ 19:18 |
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Bought me a Sata HD the other day and i have had an IDE hard drive for sometime now. well i tried to install my SATA HD along with the IDE that was already in. needless to say i cant get the computer to show up. have heard that IDE and SATA dont run well to gether but that it is possiable. so little help plz...
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ddp
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18. June 2007 @ 19:28 |
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in the bios if the ide is still to be boot drive then check that it is still boot drtive & not the sata drive.
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Puffy_1
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19. June 2007 @ 09:19 |
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Which is the one with the OS on?
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lazytitan
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21. June 2007 @ 05:49 |
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The OS is on IDE but am hoping to get it moved to SATA drive, ill look at my bios when i get home today
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lazytitan
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21. June 2007 @ 08:16 |
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So i got into my Bios and IDE is set to master and i cant even detect the sata hd. both sata 1 and 2 say not detected. what do i do know?
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ddp
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21. June 2007 @ 08:22 |
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is your motherboard sata connectors for for sata 1 or sata 3 type hd's? is that hd a sata 1 or sata 3?
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Puffy_1
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21. June 2007 @ 09:10 |
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Check if you correctly put the cable in as i forgot to do that and the mobo didnt detect it. So check if the cable is properly in.
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lazytitan
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21. June 2007 @ 18:08 |
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So its a HD 320G|ST 7K 16M SATA2 ST3320620AS Seagate, so if that helps. i tried just taking out my IDE HD and just installing the OS on it but i cant even get the HD to work when its alone. There is power to it, it comes on but still nothing. cant detect it so not sure what to do now. Im gonna grab a new cable to connect to the motherboard. but thats all i got left. so hope that helps anyone who can help me.
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21. June 2007 @ 18:30 |
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There may be a jumper on the back of the SATA hard drive setting it to 1.5Gbps while your motherboard may be 3.0Gbps. When I bought my Seagate 320GB parallel recording SATA hard drive it was set to 1.5Gbps by jumpers at the back of the drive.
I hope your drive does not run as hot as mine though, its the hottest part of my computer at 97F so I will be adding an additional cooling fan to mine soon. Hard drives are overheating at 104F.
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lazytitan
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21. June 2007 @ 19:11 |
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Ya i tried the jumper thing, both did nothing. My mother board is a ASRock 775-Daul 880pro if that helps anyone.
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21. June 2007 @ 19:15 |
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Try connecting the SATA cable to the other connection on the motherboard. There should be two cables to the back of the SATA drive, one for power and the other one connected to motherboard. You probably already knew that though.
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21. June 2007 @ 19:18 |
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lazytitan
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21. June 2007 @ 21:32 |
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Ya tried both connectoins and set the jumper to 1.5 and 3g and still nothing.
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Puffy_1
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21. June 2007 @ 23:25 |
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Did you connect your SATA Hard Drive to SATA 1. The jumpers dont really matter. Have you set the bios so that the SATA hard drive is your primary boot? Oh dwas there any problems with the OS installation?
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lazytitan
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22. June 2007 @ 05:43 |
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I pretty sure i set the Sata drive to be primary when i took away the IDE HD, and i also tried SATA 1 one slot and SATA 2. ya there was a problem when trying to install the OS on it. it said there are no harddives to install it on basically. cant remember it word for word but ya...
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22. June 2007 @ 09:00 |
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Can you hear the hard drive spinning when you power on the computer?
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Puffy_1
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23. June 2007 @ 05:40 |
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Originally posted by lazytitan:
I pretty sure i set the Sata drive to be primary when i took away the IDE HD, and i also tried SATA 1 one slot and SATA 2. ya there was a problem when trying to install the OS on it. it said there are no harddives to install it on basically. cant remember it word for word but ya...
But did you finally get it to install on the SATA ?
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23. June 2007 @ 07:25 |
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Try using a different S-ATA cable with the drive. They go wrong more often than you might think. If that also fails, the circuitry on the drive may be defective and you'll need to replace it. Are you able to try any other S-ATA hard drives with your PC?
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hope your drive does not run as hot as mine though, its the hottest part of my computer at 97F so I will be adding an additional cooling fan to mine soon. Hard drives are overheating at 104F.
97F is very cool for a hard drive, 105F is about normal for a standard PC. My hard drives are quite happy operating at 121F. Believe it or not, hard drives last longer at 120F than they do at 95F, since the "warming up machinery" effect still applies to them!
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23. June 2007 @ 09:07 |
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23. June 2007 @ 09:19 |
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What do you define by an "overheat", it suddenly stopped working? What convinced you it was due to heat?
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However, not all failures are predictable. Normal use eventually can lead to a breakdown in the inherently fragile device, which makes it essential for the user to periodically back up the data onto a separate storage device. Failure to do so can lead to the loss of data. While it may be possible to recover lost information, it is normally an extremely costly procedure, and it is not possible to guarantee success in the attempt. A 2007 study published by Google suggested very little correlation between failure rates and either high temperature or activity level
. If anything it would be significant variations in temperature (expansion and contraction) to cause premature failure. My hard drives are stable at around 116-124F and they've been fine for the few months they've been in the enclosures. As hard drives get old, they seem to become more sensitive to temperature, but for the first 2 or 3 years, the effect is insignificant - see this study.
http://209.85.163.132/papers/disk_failures.pdf
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8. July 2007 @ 13:02 |
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@sammoris
I agree with your point on the hard drive heat as well as mine.
I know from personal experience that a computer will lock up if the hard drive gets too hot, different temps for different hard drives. I do remember reading the article on heat has no effect on how long a hard drive lasts but my point is to keep it cool so your computer does not lock up.
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8. July 2007 @ 13:55 |
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Data loss that causes PCs to crash typically doesn't occur unless the unit is well above 55C, and if it gets that hot, one wonders what you'd be doing wrong. If you had a failure at 48C I don't think it was heat related.
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9. July 2007 @ 02:41 |
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Back the the guys problem
look in bios and check the right things are enabled mostly this problem is bios related
i7 3770 12GB ram terrabyte sata drive 1 750Gb sata drive 285GTX graphics Sony dvdwriter same NZXT Nemesis case
Still playing Black Hawk Down why did I upgrade?
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9. July 2007 @ 08:52 |
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Wel, what else is there left to try? BIOSes usually enable S-ATA by default, so I wouldn't say the problem being BIOS related is common, but it's something worth looking into before replacing the drive.
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lfc4ever
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9. July 2007 @ 14:30 |
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i am currently using the same mobo- have you set the bios to non raid operation.
bios setup-advanced screen-ide config-onboard sata operation option from -raid to non-raid.
install os as normal no need to press f6 during set up.
hope this helps I missed it first time
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