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Video Card Thread (Mostly Gecube x1950xt)
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8. April 2008 @ 18:25 |
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Ok, so now I know CF is working. Is that the highest clocks you can get on the CPU? I bet you could break 14k if you oce it a bit higher.
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8. April 2008 @ 18:26 |
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That's as high as it will go without a major Vcore increase, which I'm not willing to do. Any idea why crossfire won't work in Supreme commander? Works fine in COD4, Crysis and HL2:Ep2, but SupCom where I was expecting big gains according to reviews, runs at half the speed it does with a single card.
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8. April 2008 @ 18:30 |
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Got the latest patch? I believe it is 3254.
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8. April 2008 @ 18:41 |
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Yup, and the same is true of the expansion Forged Alliance, which is patched to 3598.
I've certained that my 3dmark is being held back by my overclock:
1280x1024 0x0 vs 2560x1600 4x16:
Return to Proxycon: 48.5(OC GPUs) vs 26.0(Stock GPUs)
Firefly Forest: 51.3 (OC GPUs) vs 28.8 (Stock GPUs)
Canyon Flight: 89.0 (OC GPUs) vs 31.8 (OC GPUs)
As you see, the SM3.0 test is a more accurate test of the GPU, the SM2.0 is heavily CPU reliant, but even in the SM3.0 test, the default frame rate is less than 3x that of the score at insane graphics settings. That's not just three times as many pixels, but filtering that should be halving the frame rate. My 'theoretical' frame rate for those tests if CPU wasn't a limiting factor I'm thinking to be about 100-120.
Also, just ran the Crysis benchmark tool, 1280x1024 All high, 4x AA enabled, and bagged 26.26fps. Result!
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8. April 2008 @ 19:17 |
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Nice results on Crysis Sam! Especially with 4x AA!
I have a old piece of paper somewhere around here with some Crysis results written down, will post it once I find it.
BTW, are you using 1 CF connector or both?
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8. April 2008 @ 19:22 |
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One, that seemed to be logical to me, and was what I was told to use by AMD tech support, not that they are much to go by...
I'm warming to crossfire now I've found out it's definitely my CPU limiting my scores. I upped Crysis to 2560x1600 0xAA All high, shadowes and shaders low like I used to. I got between 40 and 90fps. That's stunning as far as I'm concerned, I may have to up one of them to medium! :)
COD4 is an absolute dream to play now it runs silk absolute max, I just wish I could get SupCom (or more importantly forged alliance since thats the one I have performance trouble with) to work with crossfire, and then I wouldn't even really care about my low 3dmark.
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8. April 2008 @ 19:34 |
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Well shaders are what gives Crysis its beauty, and is the main performance killer IMO.
What frames are you getting in SupCom?
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8. April 2008 @ 19:40 |
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Supcom: about 25 without crossfire, about 15 with.
On the plus side:
Crysis Benchmarking tool
2560x1600 no AA
All details high, Shadows and Shaders medium.
Average frame rate: 32.92.
The game still looks stunning at that resolution...
It's time for me to start playing some Crysis methinks!
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8. April 2008 @ 19:48 |
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Sam, you play it at 2560x1600? I play at 1920x1200 and get about 25+ with CF... But the resolution may help a bit.
Have you tried any of the hotfixes?
Also regarding Crysis, what's your average @ 1280x1024 High settings (no AA)? No overclock either, I get exactly 40 (thats the only one I can remember).
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8. April 2008 @ 20:03 |
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I'll test that now, last one before I go to bed!
Okay, 41.56fps. Seems high for my setup, perhaps the custom tweak I installed and thought I'd removed hasn't gone away. Even if it hasn't though, the graphical detail of the game is superb.
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8. April 2008 @ 20:12 |
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Ok, well its working...
What config is it? Also what time is it there now?
Its 20:12 here now.
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9. April 2008 @ 04:32 |
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It was 1:03am when I made that post. When you say what config I assume you mean which mod so to speak, it's the modifed 'Ultra detail' patch for XP.
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9. April 2008 @ 09:27 |
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Oh, wow thats pretty late sam.
Anyways, the only way to reverse that is to delete all of the cvar files you modified, run the installed and choose the "repair" option, or you can just uninstall/reinstall. I usually keep backups of that but dont need to anymore.
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9. April 2008 @ 09:33 |
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Heh, the uninstaller doesn't work! My fault for not buying the game really. I'll have to sort out a reinstall at some point.
Couple more questions for you, what Vcore do you run your Q6600 at? What sort of overclock can you achieve without going above 1.4V and what 3dmark does that earn you?
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9. April 2008 @ 12:34 |
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Well I'm at 3.6Ghz now @ 1.392v if I remember correctly - thats prime stable too. I believe I score around 18k with that.
Most of the time I just leave the voltage to "auto" in the BIOS and let the CPU take the volts it needs. It usually takes more than it needs though, so now I'm on 1.392 @ 3.6 and so far so good.
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9. April 2008 @ 14:13 |
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9. April 2008 @ 15:13 |
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MGR (Micro Gaming Rig) .|. Intel Q6600 @ 3.45GHz .|. Asus P35 P5K-E/WiFi .|. 4GB 1066MHz Geil Black Dragon RAM .|. Samsung F60 SSD .|. Corsair H50-1 Cooler .|. Sapphire 4870 512MB .|. Lian Li PC-A70B .|. Be Queit P7 Dark Power Pro 850W PSU .|. 24" 1920x1200 DGM (MVA Panel) .|. 24" 1920x1080 Dell (TN Panel) .|. |
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9. April 2008 @ 15:16 |
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MGR (Micro Gaming Rig) .|. Intel Q6600 @ 3.45GHz .|. Asus P35 P5K-E/WiFi .|. 4GB 1066MHz Geil Black Dragon RAM .|. Samsung F60 SSD .|. Corsair H50-1 Cooler .|. Sapphire 4870 512MB .|. Lian Li PC-A70B .|. Be Queit P7 Dark Power Pro 850W PSU .|. 24" 1920x1200 DGM (MVA Panel) .|. 24" 1920x1080 Dell (TN Panel) .|.
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9. April 2008 @ 15:20 |
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Well that looks good, but I prefer the 150GB model :)
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9. April 2008 @ 15:28 |
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Heh, my bad, got caught out by the server errors, seems you did too.
Waymon: nah, the 150GB drives have proved very unreliable for a lot of people, even tom's hardware commented on that, so I tell people to only use the 36s and 74s.
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9. April 2008 @ 16:01 |
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Oh, well mine has been fine so far....
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9. April 2008 @ 23:22 |
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Seems my posts didn't work.
Anyway I was saying it's amazing that you can get a Q6600 stable at less that 1.4v at 3.6ghz when mine cant even do that at 1.52!
I might get a ASUS P5E X38 motherboard along with a 1GB 8800GT.
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10. April 2008 @ 07:01 |
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What I want to know is why they didn't make a 1GB 9800GTX, that would make much more sense...
From what I'm reading the P5E seems to have a crappy BIOS pre-fitted, so you'll need to be comfortable with BIOS flashing to make good use of that board. The X38-DS4 has been pretty good to me, but by the looks of things you can't overclock the new EX38 revision if you fill all four RAM slots, so that's a bit crap really... Try and find the original X38-DS4 though, it's been a good board for me so far, although I do have to admit, the BIOS is rather slow compared to the P35C-DS3R it replaced.
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10. April 2008 @ 16:06 |
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I'm totally comfortable with flashing the BIOS. I've done it lots of times before and it doesn't really bother me.
Yeah I could get the X38-DS4. They are about the same price. What's the BETTER motherboard though? The Asus one seems to have better cooling.
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10. April 2008 @ 16:11 |
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The X38-DS4 is the coolest running chipset board I've ever had, so I wouldn't mark it down for that. I didn't realise the boards were the same price, $225 is almost as much as I paid for my board in the UK! ]
All I can say is I've been doing fine with my DS4, the P5E may well be a good board too...
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