Originally posted by sammorris:

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Just thought I'd add a note here to signify that I've stopped recommending the HD3870 and HD3850 graphics cards, and will now solely be advising nvidia products in the high end sector. I've been using the cards for a while and recommending them on the basis that the issues I had were easily fixed, but they aren't. I'm sick of the card really, the software is terrible, the coolers are dire and the customer support is non-existent. I sincerely hope the 4870 is better.

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Originally posted by abuzar1:

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How much are you getting in 3DMark?

I switched over to Nvidia thank god.

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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It's not the price and performance that's really the problem, it's that the cards just don't bloody work.
3dmark scores were fine, pushing 11500 single and 13800 crossfire (CPU limited), but more impressively 12800 at 1920x1200 with crossfire enabled. Performance was sometimes an issue, but it's the BSODs I can't deal with, they just never stop.

Abuzar: nor me really, you tried one, it didn't turn out, at least then you know for next time.
And yes, before anyone mentions it, I do feel like a mug for sticking up for the 3800s so hard.

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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Why did he? Everybody seems to be of the opinion that the memory interface will limit the card before the amount of memory does, not so. nvidia cards fall flat on their face as soon as they run out of memory, they need as much as they can get.
If the 4870s aren't dogs like the 3870s, I'll be interested, but it's going to be unlikely methinks.

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