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21. July 2008 @ 20:25 |
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Thanks for the compliment Rich, it really means a lot coming from you. I haven't really built that many systems in my time, so realistically, I'm far from an expert compared to some...
Another thanks for elaborating on the HL2 screenshot, forgive me if I do it later on, I'm off to bed now, approaching 1:30am!
As for BF2, I can tell you now that problem is exactly what you get from a lack of memory, and that 1GB really isn't enough to run any modern game at high detail. Add more RAM and watch the lag disappear like magic! lol
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21. July 2008 @ 22:27 |
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Well, for the stuttering-problems and such I personally got in Battlefield, I'm sure it's because of a whole mix of system-performance.
A slightly too slow card to start with for that game, plus some other slower parts I bet.
I used both 1.5Gb in Dual Channel and now running 2Gb in Single Channel.
But I benchmarked both setups and it didn't make much of difference, in speed anyways.
The performance didn't change that much either, maybe just slightly nicer with the 2Gb even though in Single Channel this time.
But BF2's engine, whatever it's called, doesn't help matters either.
Like I said, it just is a laggy engine to start with.
They used an optimized version of it for BF2142.
Which you could really notice since the stutters are far from as bad.
And while I still might not have had thát much better framerates, the framerate was a lót more consistent.
That's only one of the reasons it's a better game.
Other reasons would be the whole setting of a future ice-age war.
The weapons are just awesome and act slightly more realistic.
As in, when you'd jump on the floor the spread gets wider.
So it's less of a retarded "drop on the ground and spray people in the face" type of thing.
I really really despise that in those games though, without doing damage to yourself and sliding over the floor like a snake really fast.
Then also the vehicles are done great, the environments are much better.
And especially Titan Mode makes a lot better gameplay, with bigger maps and a lot more epic battles.
I really loved the settings and using the Titans...
Too bad EA broke my game with a patch and can't (or actually won't) help me, I really miss the experience...
By the way, a LOT of those hardcore BF2-fanboys will tell you BF2142 sucks and especially in Titan Mode.
But don't listen to them, they're just brainwashed run&gunners only wanting to stack points and what not.
They don't care about the experience of a game and what it's all about.
Just give it a try yourself, and do what you like yourself.
Which is for me personally the better balanced game of BF2142 with the big epic warfare of the future.
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But for Far Cry 2, the game is not out yet, but it will be soon.
It's just that I saw a lot of gameplay-footage and demonstrations and such.
In fact I saw like 2 or 3 demos on GameSpot live at E3 recently.
I know it's not by CryTek, and that people confuse all the names and everything.
I have to say Crysis does have a lot of similar things though.
It's not that I see it as a sequel or anything, I didn't even play Far Cry (1).
And I doubt I would like the Doom-like monsters and such...
As far as I know it's by Ubisoft Montreal, if they hired another team for it, I'm not sure.
But yes, Far Cry 2 is set in Africa, with 50KM˛ of streaming open world.
No loading besides the start and choosing what time to wake up by setting your alarm-clock.
You can choose which one of the like 9 characters you want to play, the rest of them will be your "buddy"-AIs.
Which can die along-side you just as well as you can, but if you're down and they're good they'll pick you up and fight you out of there to a safe place.
Again, you'll actually see yourself being picked up and your buddy fighting all from your own view, no cinematics from the outside there.
You'll fight in dry savannahs, also go through dense jungles and some more environments.
You'll get all the heavy weapons, pistols, (sub-)machineguns, (sniper-)rifles, shotguns, rocketlaunchers, improvised bombs, and the big thing will be a flamethrower.
You can set anything on fire that should burn, the fire burns into the direction of the wind and burns everything up.
Destroyed foliage will grow back over time, you can also shoot off each little branch.
And there are also animals around as you would have to expect from Africa.
There are also plenty of vehicles to get around with.
All kinds of cars, jeeps and buggies, I'm not sure what else yet.
Maybe and hopefully a dirtbike or something and there will be a hang-glider.
The AI is all autonomous as they call it, they aren't scripted.
So you will not know where everyone is, they'll all act randomly but fierce.
If you'd steal something from them they'll hunt you down even if you leave their location.
When they hit you, you can medicate yourself like 3 times.
But when you're out of that, you have to start pulling out bullets every time you get hit or something like that.
At first it was only that, but they found a problem with it, maybe too annoying or something.
But a really awesome and original idea after all.
And since there is a 24 hour day/night-cycle there will also be darkness.
Where there is nothing but the light from the stars and some other light-sources and no nightvision or heatvision to help you.
You can sneak around in the dark, pretty much without getting spotted.
By the way, a day in the game would be like 6 hours in real-life I believe.
So, those are pretty much the main features, with a lot of extra details on every thing in the game.
Also, the main objective is to hunt down "The Jackal", which is some kind of arms-dealer.
And you can go around doing missions whenever and wherever you like.
In which way you want to do them yourself, there's probably almost no linearity.
I'll try to link some videos or something which shows some action.
Ah yeah, here is an early demonstration:
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/09/07/13-minutes-of-farcry-2-footage/
It might have some different details, but it shows the same basics I guess.
And yes, it's definitely worth buying.
If Crysis was worth buying it just for it's evolutionary engine, graphics and SandBox.
Far Cry 2 will be worth buying just for the evolutionary gameplay like apparently also the first Far Cry had.
Many developers will have to take example of this game.
And the graphics are great too actually, it looks pretty real.
It shows it paid off that the developer-team went on a trip to Africa and came back with hours of film and loads of photos.
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22. July 2008 @ 05:40 |
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Wow DInc, your posts get longer by the day! lol Up to 1100 words now! :)
Far Cry 2 interests me, but I'm pretty sure Ubisoft Montreal were who made the dire port of the original R6 Vegas. That coupled with how astonishingly groundbreaking the game sounds suggests to me that, if turned up, the game is very likely to be even more demanding than Crysis. Perhaps it'll be more scalable, but you don't get these sorts of effects on low end PCs, no matter who programmed it.
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22. July 2008 @ 18:48 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Wow DInc, your posts get longer by the day! lol Up to 1100 words now! :)
Far Cry 2 interests me, but I'm pretty sure Ubisoft Montreal were who made the dire port of the original R6 Vegas. That coupled with how astonishingly groundbreaking the game sounds suggests to me that, if turned up, the game is very likely to be even more demanding than Crysis. Perhaps it'll be more scalable, but you don't get these sorts of effects on low end PCs, no matter who programmed it.
As if I didn't guess that. XD
But yeah, they built the Dunya Engine from the ground up for this game.
Just to get all the environmental effects, like the time with the changing lighting and weather-effects.
The whole deal with the foliage being breakable and burnable etc.
But then again, the game might still not be as heavy as for example the CryEngine2.
Because the CryEngine2 was made to be used for many more future games.
But it would be a shame not to use the Dunya more of course. :P
Also, the CryEngine2 was optimized for Crysis: Warhead, so anyone might be able to play that game better.
Believe it or not, even I played through Crysis on Hard (in combination with the low performance).
So it might all just still work alright.
However, I am not planning to play any more of these great (looking) games on this computer.
I hope to have a nice gaming thingy in some months or so.
And I can just sit back and enjoy a whole lot of games I still need to play.
I have a wish-list of about 50 games, (relatively) new and old that I just want to plug into and experience full-on.
So decent graphics on a well sized screen, good sound with almost no noise from the computer and some good controllers.
Blaaah... :P
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22. July 2008 @ 18:50 |
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I'd like to say I have all bases covered with perhaps the exception of them running well at a good resolution... :P
My PC isn't worth all that much right now, so it's easily doable...
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22. July 2008 @ 19:07 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
I'd like to say I have all bases covered with perhaps the exception of them running well at a good resolution... :P
My PC isn't worth all that much right now, so it's easily doable...
But things are just more expensive here.
Plus I haven't got everything to spend.
If US-stores just wouldn't be a b*tch with shipping-costs.
They seriously overcharge.
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22. July 2008 @ 19:09 |
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Please tell me you're joking. American PC parts more expensive than british ones?
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22. July 2008 @ 19:20 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Please tell me you're joking. American PC parts more expensive than british ones?
:\ No, they're cheaper than anything, they cost a fortune (compared to there) over here in The Netherlands.
If you'd have a monitor like for example at something like Newegg for like 200 Dollars, which would be like 130 Euros, and I'd look up the same one here it would be like 200 Euros.
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22. July 2008 @ 19:22 |
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I'd say we probably have it quite similar. Our VAT's 17.5%...
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22. July 2008 @ 19:25 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
I'd say we probably have it quite similar. Our VAT's 17.5%...
Yeah, it's close to 20% here now.
But for some reason the prices over there (in the UK) tend to be better though.
Not necessarily taxes though, maybe it has to do with the shipping.
Or maybe the types of stores, I don't know...
Cause someone showed me a website recently, which had SanDisk-cards for like half the price it even is in the US.
So especially cheap for over here, the problem was just that they don't ship electronics outside the UK.
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22. July 2008 @ 19:29 |
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Which country do you live in? Is it Scandinavian?
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22. July 2008 @ 19:32 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Which country do you live in? Is it Scandinavian?
I told you... The Netherlands... (incorrectly aka Holland)
We're topographically neighbors. :P
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22. July 2008 @ 19:37 |
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22. July 2008 @ 19:40 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Ah right, sorry must have missed that.
Don't novatech do international shipping?
http://www.novatech.co.uk
It looks like it, a tenner up to 31.5Kgs, not too much I guess.
But then I don't know the prices there.
I'm guess good prices since you know the store?
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22. July 2008 @ 19:42 |
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Most places will charge you Ł9-11 for UK mainland delivery, albeit next day. Not used novatech myself, but haven't heard anything bad.
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22. July 2008 @ 19:44 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Most places will charge you Ł9-11 for UK mainland delivery, albeit next day. Not used novatech myself, but haven't heard anything bad.
Ah yeah, it's about the same costs it seems.
They say 10 pounds for shipping in 2 days.
Even if that would turn out to be 5-10 days, that's affordable.
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22. July 2008 @ 20:36 |
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All I can say, Sam, is that I am undoubtedly going to continue to take more advantage of that incredible knowledge you have accumulated, as I start to get better equipment. Btw, I'll wait patiently until one day you find that unbelievably scenic view in EP2 and post a 2560 x 1600 screenshot. But if you forget all about it - I'll remind you in a week or so!
Dinc, that is some terrific preview you provided of Far Cry 2. I played Far Cry, like almost everybody else, and I enjoyed it immensely. It was ground-breaking. But you have me really anticipating Far Cry 2. So you're fighting with buddies unlike Far Cry? Great! They went to Africa to research the game? They created a new engine? Anyway, dinc, really nice, great review! (Holy cr*p - I followed your link and watched the 13 minutes of film - wow! I better have the new build by the time that thing comes out next year! Unbelievable!)
See you guys,
Rich
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22. July 2008 @ 22:56 |
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Originally posted by harvrdguy:
All I can say, Sam, is that I am undoubtedly going to continue to take more advantage of that incredible knowledge you have accumulated, as I start to get better equipment. Btw, I'll wait patiently until one day you find that unbelievably scenic view in EP2 and post a 2560 x 1600 screenshot. But if you forget all about it - I'll remind you in a week or so!
Dinc, that is some terrific preview you provided of Far Cry 2. I played Far Cry, like almost everybody else, and I enjoyed it immensely. It was ground-breaking. But you have me really anticipating Far Cry 2. So you're fighting with buddies unlike Far Cry? Great! They went to Africa to research the game? They created a new engine? Anyway, dinc, really nice, great review! (Holy cr*p - I followed your link and watched the 13 minutes of film - wow! I better have the new build by the time that thing comes out next year! Unbelievable!)
See you guys,
Rich
Well yeah, you can take your buddies, or at LEAST one of them for backup.
And probably also alongside, that's something to hope for anyways.
But I think you have to choose if they come with you though.
You have contact with them personally and through cell-phones.
But yes, they actually went to Africa.
Find the official website and you can see some footage of that.
And also yes they have a new engine called Dunya (if that's spelled right).
It was to be able to create all the features they wanted of course.
And the game will be out more like October this year...
By the way, there are some more awesome demonstrations on GameSpot.
At least 2 demonstrations for exclusively for GameSpot on their own stage.
And I believe also one of those big ones on stage in front of a crowd you know, just like the one I linked but then a lot newer.
Obviously, from last E3, which was like last week so yeah.
Here you go: http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/farcry...tag=tabs;videos
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23. July 2008 @ 04:42 |
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lol I haven't forgotten Rich, but I'm having difficulty finding it. My savegames from when I played the game are a bit mismatched. I have oodles of save games during the strider battle, a handful from the section where the combine are in the base before that, and then my last save before that is the journey up to the base indoors. Is it still in the 'our mutual fiend' section?
Take a look at this:
Which save do I launch and continue for how long?
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4594/episodetwosavesbg2.jpg
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23. July 2008 @ 16:12 |
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Hey guys,
Dinc, thanks for the extra links. Awesome!! You know, it's interesting. You were so "I hate run and gun!" that when I saw the 13 minutes of action on the first link you gave us a couple of days ago, I thought "That doesn't sound like the style dinc likes." But the night fighting was interesting. At any time in the game, apparently, you can go into a safe house, and fast forward to night. And then you can play the game full stealth like Tom Clancy - in fact they mentioned Splinter Cell during the night action demonstration. Amazing!!
Sam, I'm sorry you had trouble finding the spot I was talking about. Since I am gaming today, I found it. It's at the end of the "Under the Radar" section. Let me see if I can load this screenshot - I tried to get into image shack where you guys are putting your screenshots, and I couldn't see how to open an account, so I'm going to try to put a shrunken version of my screen shot right here linking to my web site:
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That's the spot! Also nice place to use the suit Z zoom and look at the water.
See you guys,
Rich
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23. July 2008 @ 16:18 |
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No need for an account, upload and go, off the main page!
Cheers for the screenie, I know where you mean now. Will have it up by this evening, promise! :)
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23. July 2008 @ 16:30 |
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what game is that?
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23. July 2008 @ 16:32 |
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HL2: Episode Two, silly... hehe we've been talking about it for ages!
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23. July 2008 @ 16:38 |
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Shaf - haven't you played that? Where have you been?
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23. July 2008 @ 16:42 |
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Rargh, trying to get past the autogun again, forgotten how to do it... :P
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