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25. July 2008 @ 19:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hah, you guys are funny. Nice pic Sam - they got revenge on ya, did they? Wow Dinc - glue him back in hell?? Poor Sam :P Yeah I've seen a bunch of those videos - the videos are really fun. I like the big Russian guy, the heavy, with the gattling gun that costs $400,000 to fire for 20 seconds: "Some people think they are smarter than me." "Maybe so, maybe so." "But I have not met guy who can outsmart bullet" "HahaHAHAHAHAHA!" Yeah I'm gonna get it!

Sam, and Abuzar and all you guys whom I misinformed, regarding the AC-130 Spectre. They're not moving slower than 300 mph. Well, MAYBE the plane can go a little slower than that - that's maximum velocity and cruising velocity might be less. But that's not the point, and here's why: they're not firing straight down from the bottom of the plane like I had assumed.

They're not shooting from the bottom of the plane looking down, they're shooting from the side of the plane, which is tipped over in a turn. Look at the bottom picture here, and my comments in red. I googled, and COD4 is absolutely authentic!! Wow!!



I did a little bit of reading - in VietNam they hunted supply trucks with these things, which are also known as the Hercules Spector. At that time they didn't have the TV cameras they have now. But they DID have electronic sensors which could pick up the truck engine electronic static through the foliage from as high as 8000 feet over the jungle. (A couple of planes were shot down with AA (anti-aircraft) fire from that altitude.)

Now look at an actual current video from the war zone.

How to pacify terrorists from an AC-130 flying gunship

That's exactly like COD4 - Death from Above. Absolutely realistic - way to go Infinity Ward - sorry I doubted you guys for a minute :)

Notice the delay from when they shoot to when you get the visual of the shots, about a 2 second delay. The bullets are going about 1000 mph I think (from memory correct me if anybody really knows the exact speed) which is about 1500 feet per second, which puts the planes a lot closer to the target, about 3000 feet, probably similar to how it is in COD4. The altitude of the plane would depend on how tight of a turn it is executing. In the picture, I'm guessing roughly a 45 degree angle line of firing. So using some elementary trig, if the long side of the right triangle is 3000 feet, then the plane is about 2100 feet off the ground, and about the same distance, a bit less than a half mile horizontally from the target. If you're flying close air support, and you don't expect much AA or SAM (surface to air missile) batteries, no need to be that high up.

But notice in the video, one guy pulls a weapon from the truck after the first round of fire, probably some kind of SAM and he starts to target the plane. Notice the guys on the plane getting really panicky - "He's aiming. SHOOT HIM!" I would be panicky too! They also try to get some other dudes to lob a missile over there, but those guys say they're out of range! That's the real thing in the video - you don't see that on the evening news. Awesome!!

Jeezuss!! Just watched it again. That second part of the video is the same exact situation being photographed from another gunship - you see the same exact guy from behind as he targets the first gunship and you hear the second gunship talking to the first "We got em - the guy who was shooting at you." Then he follows some runners and at one point he says "I've got an azimuth limit, roll out." I think he's trying to get the pilot to tip the plane a little more - he can't get the guy who is just under his cross hairs. Notice how as you look down, you are circling around the targets. I don't know if COD4 actually does as much circling - I'll have to play that part again.

Man, terrorists, let me clue you bad guys in. You really don't want to be messing around covering and uncovering weapons in an open truck with two kick-ass gunships circling overhead!

So once again, I humbly apologize to Infinity Ward. The COD4 episode is right-on accurate. Good for you guys!! Notice in the YouTube the guy saying: "Ok Kill em. Yeah, that's it, smoke em." Just like in COD4.

Damn! That's a Bad *ss airplane! Screw college I'm enlisting! :)

AC-130 Gunship

Here's one more video of the plane - with a small piece of footage a quarter inch back from the end, just after a close-up of the pilot, showing the AC-130 in a turn shooting 45 degrees down at ground targets (like the photograph above.)

:O

-Rich

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For once that picture wasn't from me, just googled...



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25. July 2008 @ 21:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sure Sam we believe you. Show us YOUR pictures: "Total humiliation!" "Revenge from 2 guys at once - never happened before!" "Heavy has blocked you from picking his character again unless you know what ochen horosho means - never happened before!" Hehe.
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I had an awesome picture before, but I can't remember where I Saved it... :(



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I shall not buy budget cases (the 2nd of the 10 PCommandmants), the first being THOU SHALT NOT BUY A CHEAP QUAILTY PSU :D

i didnt seem we were goin 300, but TBH its the best mission i have done on a game PERIOD. OH OH maybe not i love the sniping mission on top of the hotel with the wind.

now im stuck on getting to the bottom of the hill with the S.A.S getting to the new LZ within 4 minutes.



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and boozer.....CRICKET = SLEEEEEEEEEEPP

where as FOOTBALL (aka "soccer") = SEX



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26. July 2008 @ 15:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ha ha! Boozer, that's a good name for him - that's what I'll call him from now on. But of course being a yankee I was talking football = football. How long is a soccer field? The same 300 feet? Cricket = sleep? Baseball also has its slow moments, building up the tension to those hot plays. I confess I've never seen a cricket game - do you guys even do that anymore?

The sniping with the wind - not easy, not easy. I went back at veteran and did better, but the first time - I think I needed about 8 attempts before that arm blew off!! (I swear the last time on veteran I think I blew his head off - but of course that is not acceptable because he's needed later in the game. lol)

Getting to the LZ? What worked for me was to call in an air strike every 20 seconds or so and work down the hill by heading all the way to the left, and jumping the fence at the last minute. And I stopped worrying about the team. I ended up way ahead of them. They'll make it by themselves. (And of course don't forget to actually get on board the plane like I did a couple of times - duhh.)
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26. July 2008 @ 16:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Soccer or 'football' to us british is probably the most boring game I know. An hour and a half (usually more) of a game to finish up with the score being typically less than 5 between both teams? Pah.

Back to COD4, liked the sniping mission. If you're on veteran though, wait til you get to 'Mile high club' - hehe, all hands to the swear jar!



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yeha i only play games on their hardest :)

so i jumped into vetran. im using the ASs but there are to many waves of them. i get the the broken chopper withthe MG on it, and always get killed, cant get past that :(.

and by that time i have a minute left.

and sam.......ur being block and delted form my msn and FB >8-{..... :P


im not gonna argue about footy with ya, thats an msn thing lol, but its not about getting a million goals, that why when even one is scored they are special, then scoring 50 a match. each one means something.



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26. July 2008 @ 16:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, regarding your first commandment, I know that Sam will back you up, Shaffaaf, on the value of a good psu - he's got me convinced after that fire that he had. That's why nothing more in store for this existing case, with weak allied 500 psu, other than 2 gigs ram, and 3850 gfx.

Sam tells me that I would have to upgrade the psu if I started investing in quality parts, like a new mobo. So I'll keep the same mobo. Then when I do the new build, I might eventually give this one away to a family member. One guy I have in mind played the original Half Life on his laptop, courtesy of the Valve family member guy, Miles, and Frank liked it a lot, but he has never advanced game-wise since '03. Miles also got him the original Call of Duty - where they start out by driving up in a truck pretending to be Nazis (or was that the first MOH?) He'd go nuts over COD4, and with the 3850 it's going to play even smoother than it does on my x850xtpe - and it plays pretty good right now.

Commandment number 2, a good case. For starters, a case needs to be able to handle ventilation or water cooling tweaks, for sure. But looks - clear side panel? - snazzy color? Of course you're right - the case is the physical embodiment of the computer - it's what you look at when you look at the hardware. Like having a car that looks good, besides driving good. So how much is a lot of extra bling worth? $100 more? Maybe so, maybe so. I think I read once where Ray (waymon) posted that he thought he would invest in a full tower next time - is that what you're planning to do, shaff?

Hey guys, boozer shaff sam, dinc mike ray core2kid, travis, et al. What's a good figure that I should plan on for the next build, for just the case - $300? If vertical space isn't a problem, should I get a full tower?
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I see no reason to spend more than maybe $160-$180 on a case. Beyond that point it's just Lian-Li bragging rights above all else. You get very little extra for your money beyond that point.



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26. July 2008 @ 17:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, fair enough. (Who is Lian-li?) Should it be a full tower?
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26. July 2008 @ 17:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not necessarily. The NZXT Tempest isn't a full tower and that can cool any system. Lian-Li are a good, but incredibly overpriced case manufacturer.



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26. July 2008 @ 17:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh yeah, you talked about that before. I followed your other link. Do you happen to have a newegg link to that case, Sam?
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26. July 2008 @ 17:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the link sam - as soon as I asked I thought - "Hey how lazy - I can find it on newegg myself" - but this way I know it's the exact case you were talking about - looks really nice!!

You have talked about the case before. Out of curiousity - what are the essential main things that you like about it, since I am a case newbie?
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It's well made, reasonably priced, well cooled, quiet and looks nice...



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26. July 2008 @ 17:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, it looks great. I see it has a side exhaust fan like I installed in the case I have now.

However, one thing that is missing, that my cheap ass case has, is a fresh-air inlet for the cpu. When I added the sunbeam kit with the hose, my hot running 3.2 p4 cpu gets air only through that filtered side inlet, and no matter how hot the inside of the case gets, no affect on the cpu.

Do you consider that not as important with cooler core 2 duo - add water cooling or an HSI cpu cooler with fan, and no worries?
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Sorry, I don't understand. It has two front fans...



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26. July 2008 @ 17:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hold on Sam.

*searching* (like dinc lol)

Ok, found it:

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I'm talking about that part, item #2, the little inlet for the cpu fresh air in. I have found it very easy to run a hose in the Sunbeam kit to that inlet #2, and I can easily pop the hose off when I take the side panel off. Sunbeam provided two hose mounts for slightly different square fan sizes, maybe 83 and 90 mm, which on the square side happen to fit well into each other, for quick snap together or unsnap - I don't think they planned it that way - I just played with it and I saw that I could do it that way :) So when I take the side panel off - I have a note inside reminding me to unsnap the square parts from each other. (I'm so proud of myself lol)

You say the nzxt tempest has two front fans, and I know the sunbeam kit allows running a hose a couple of feet if necessary. In fact in the instructions, or maybe on-line, I think I saw some pictures of guys running the hose from the cpu cooler around to the front to draw in fresh air. So would you do something like that - or do you feel it's no longer necessary with cooler running stuff?
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It's not really cooler running parts, it's more powerful cooling in other places. Using 120mm fans everywhere, and 140mm fans at the top, very few areas aren't covered.



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26. July 2008 @ 17:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just read a couple of reviews - 6 fans - a big 140mm at the top. That sounds really good. Is this your case?
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I think your Lexa is prettier. Plus, 3 temperature readouts. The carrying case I wouldn't use, but I see how it would be convenient for your LAN parties. Fewer fans, 80mm on top instead of 140mm on the Tempest. Psu location back top, instead of back bottom for tempest - that's the newer thinking, right - put the psu on the bottom? The new one is $20 bucks less than yours. Do they have anything as pretty as yours but with the new architecture for under $150?
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If I knew of such a thing, I'd be recommending it to everybody... :P




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