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Video Card Thread (Mostly Gecube x1950xt)
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28. July 2008 @ 12:11 |
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Sam, I am sure their will be future games like Crysis - and 1920x1200 is a pretty decent resoltion isn't it? I'm sure not all of the games that come out in the future will use all 4 GPUs, so maybe 1920x1200 might give a single X2 a run for it's money? But yeah... If I was still running my old 1280x1024 monitor then I can see what you're saying...
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harvrdguy
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28. July 2008 @ 13:33 |
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Shaff - yeah yeah - that sig is SOOO cool! Boozer loves it:
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Some more boozer:
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Bro, you're crazy and hyper as hell lol!
"ya talkin to me?" LOL. Bro, keep those cheap oem monitors coming!! :)
Nice move shaff, that sig rocks!!!
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28. July 2008 @ 13:57 |
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One 4870X2 gets an average of 100fps in current games, maxed out with AA at 1920x1200. It'll be a while - you may as well get one, or two normal 4870s. By the time you need more, something better might be out.
Don't get me wrong, 1920 is a respectable res, but the power of four 4870s is so vast, it'll sit there unused for a considerable time to come unless you really turn the res up.
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28. July 2008 @ 14:05 |
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Sam, that chart is very helpful. I copied and pasted into one of my upgrade text files for future reference. Really nice work dude.
Yeah, Ray, Sam's point is so valid - $800 that's the number. What are you going to use all that raw horsepower for if it doesn't translate onto the screen? Sure, your upgrade that you just did at 1920x1200 is way better than what you had before at 1280x1024.
Basically what you have now is the same that I am running at 1600x1200 except in wide format (and you have 10x the 3dmarks that I have!) So yeah, sure, it's a lot better than what you were running before. But it's still for sure not up to the level of your hardware.
Think of it this way, Ray, you're only looking at half the pixels that Sam is looking at. Sam sees over 4 million pixels when he looks at his screen, and you see about 2.3 million.
"So what" somebody might say.
Well . . . twice as many pixels means . . . twice as much detail means . . . TWICE AS MUCH REALISM.
Everything that the game publishers are doing, everything that my buddy Miles does with his modeling and animating, everything that the hardware manufacturers are doing, everything that the LCD display manufacturers are doing, is to DELIVER A MORE IMMERSIVE EXPERIENCE.
Besides being virtually the world leader in 3dmarks, isn't that what you want, Ray, a more immersive experience? Of course!
(Besides, boozer has to get rid of that used monitor.) :D
-rich
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28. July 2008 @ 17:34 |
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Abuzar, speaking about Shaffaaf's awesome sig, I like that pistol that you are sporting. We all should work on Hot sigs like Ray and Shaff. (In my sig I should put up a pic of naked Alyx from the gametrailers patch - that would last for all of about 10 seconds before DDP busted my butt! lol)
Anyway, your pistol sig reminds me of Revenge of Juarez - I played the demo recently. Sam says the game is state of the art graphics-wise, which is what I've heard. I'll probably buy the game on ebay after my 3850 goes in and see what all the buzz is about.
But for me the biggest kick BY FAR, was the Billy the Kid part - the horse moves his head around and all - immersive - you actually feel like you're riding a horse! Giddyup! :D
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28. July 2008 @ 19:23 |
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It's actually a revolver ;) Speaking of weapons I should get around to cleaning my 9mm, but I'm so damn lazy
And yes, it would be nice to get rid of that used monitor(it's been used a few times only). I dont feel like listing it on ebay.
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28. July 2008 @ 20:38 |
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Yeah so I finally cleaned my pistol.
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28. July 2008 @ 22:17 |
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Good for you boozer. What the hell are you doing with a 9? Do you take it out for target practice? How many bullets in a clip - 12 or some such big number?
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28. July 2008 @ 22:20 |
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I snuck over to that other thread you secretly started last month (because Loco said to) and practically posted an ad for that monitor for you - not sure when I'll have the money - and I definitely don't have the horsepower to drive it anyway. Estuansis should probably get it. LOL
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28. July 2008 @ 22:47 |
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Yeah it's a Smith and Wesson 9mm and it holds 15 bullets in the MAGAZINE lol. I'm more of a Rifle kind of guy myself(got me TWO rifle using a 7.62x39 caliber. It's almost the same as a Winchester .308 but it's better at long ranges than the .308. To give you an idea this is the same bullet used in an AK47). Anyway the Pistol is my dads and I took it to the Range on Saturday. Anyway I was really lazy and I just cleaned it today.
And BTW, thanks for posting an Ad for me. Hope someone buys it.
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29. July 2008 @ 01:08 |
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guys, then I never have to upgrade again until those GPUs start to choke which should be some time.
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29. July 2008 @ 05:36 |
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I haven't actually played the Juarez game(s), another thing to gawp at with my screen resolution I suppoe...
Ray: When Nehalem comes, you'll want to upgrade again, I know it... :P
Also, what happens if some gut-horrible demanding game comes along that doesn't support crossfire? Only one of those four GPUs will be working...
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29. July 2008 @ 06:04 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
I haven't actually played the Juarez game(s), another thing to gawp at with my screen resolution I suppoe...
Ray: When Nehalem comes, you'll want to upgrade again, I know it... :P
Also, what happens if some gut-horrible demanding game comes along that doesn't support crossfire? Only one of those four GPUs will be working...
Yeah, all that CF and SLi stuff is still kinda silly if it doesn't support everything.
Well, that is when you need the performance like you said.
I really like how they're trying to make the gaming-platform that is "PC" more accessible.
Such as they have this organization going on to support PC-gaming more.
And in GPUs, how for example they made the videocards of lately more like cartridges.
Meaning with the front and back covered, as if it were a simple old console-game to just stuff into a system.
I'm pretty sure the PC-gaming children of the future will be playing games as easy as most console-players today without knowing too much about the technical side.
And you know, without too much FCKN around with building a good enough computer besides the enthusiasts that simply want to.
They will just buy a case possibly with some kind of easy cooling-kit or whatever and a PSU, with a board with a gaming-CPU, then they just throw in a "video-cartridge", "audio-cartridge", some "memory-sticks", just whatever are the gaming-parts of that time, connect it to their TV or central computer's monitor, insert/install their game and go ahead playing.
With the software also being more advanced, just for example, you know how you insert certain devices and the OS finds drivers and just instantly works with it.
I'm pretty sure in the future they will just be up and running pretty much instantly, maybe after some automated downloading and updating (if not already), but still.
It's quite unacceptable that you have to pretty much drag yourself through ICT-school to be able to play PC-games.
Personally I've seriously been fkn around forever with these things and it's just messed up and too expensive too.
And like that organization, I'm not exactly sure what that was again, will probably just make these things easier.
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29. July 2008 @ 07:25 |
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Front and back covered? Most cards I know look like this at the back:
(this is a 4850). How is that covered?
I personally like the PC as a gaming platform as I can play games at 2560x1600. The Xbox 360 is typically 1280x720, and the PS3 even worse at 1024x600. Shiney game graphics, limitless online capabilites, and everything else...
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29. July 2008 @ 07:51 |
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Was I disagreeing then? :P
But maybe not that card, but the more later cards by nVidia are.
That's one of the companies that is in that organization too.
I'm not sure if ATi is in it too, but I know some other companies like these were.
I know they're rivals, but it doesn't matter.
Anyways, if you'd take a look at the 8800GT, or maybe an even higher-end one, one of those...
Those are covered front and back, the default black ones anyways.
Which makes it look a lot more, you know... or actually less technical.
You just grab the dam thing without worrying about the more fragile parts too much, and shove it into the slot.
Not that you can just throw it around, but you know, there's nothing small to break off or little wires, open things like on the traditional cards.
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29. July 2008 @ 07:56 |
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Ohh, I see, the back meaning the short side where the power connector is, I presumed you meant the back-side of the PCB. IMO you don't really get the sense of a non-fragile bit of hardware unless that's covered as well.
They're covered at the 'rear' but not on the 'back'.
I'm pretty sure it was just nvidia promoting the PC as a gaming platform, but AMD will certainly want in on that now they're slowly bouncing back from graphical second fiddle...
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29. July 2008 @ 07:58 |
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No, I really meant the back, I'm pretty sure it was covered all the way around, and a single-slow one too.
I'll have to find it somewhere, not sure which model it was...
*searching*
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29. July 2008 @ 08:00 |
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You might be thinking of this one, but look closely, and you'll see it too is open at the back...
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29. July 2008 @ 08:01 |
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Nope, never seen it before, it's also too fat for the one I mean.
I think I almost found it...
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29. July 2008 @ 08:02 |
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the GTX260/80 and the 4870X2 have the front and back covered.
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29. July 2008 @ 08:06 |
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Well... sort of for the 4870X2
The GTX200 series do indeed cover themselves entirely, which is interesting, but without sounding harsh, who cares, who'd buy them? lol
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29. July 2008 @ 08:10 |
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Well, I think I've been staring at the GX2 then.
Such as this one: http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_9800gx2.html
I've also seen other brands with the same or similar design.
It's 2 slots after all, I guess the black just makes it look sleeker or something.
But you know, the point is that it's just that simplicity or whatever.
You could kind of compare it tooo... eh, like... photography?
Just like some years ago, you always had to be careful not to expose the film and not to touch it and things like that.
Today you can just frickin' put a card into your camera within seconds and take it out as easily without worrying about a thing.
It's just that comfort and ease you know, like "everyone can do it".
And also not be intimidated by the whole technical aspect.
Just like a kid would play with his Nintendo or anything like that.
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29. July 2008 @ 08:11 |
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well with the GTX280 at £270, id choose it over xfire 4870s. but not over xfore4850 (as they are at £220) (ofcourse if i have a P35 board, and not P45/x38/x48, then id probably go forthe GTX 280)
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29. July 2008 @ 08:30 |
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4850cf> GTX280
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29. July 2008 @ 08:32 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
4850cf> GTX280
6800XT > 7800GT > 8800GT > 8800XT? > 9800GT > 10000GT!
WTFOMGWD?!
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