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19. August 2008 @ 20:56 |
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I want tri-CF benchmarks!
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20. August 2008 @ 05:38 |
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22. August 2008 @ 21:14 |
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Sam, regarding that report above, on the crysis page, I know they were using Vista and DX10. With XP and the hacked ultra-high DX9 patch, isn't performance about 10% better, and don't you get just about all the effects? Are you losing any critical effects at this stage of DX10? (I guess we're at DX10.1 now and nobody supports it yet, from what I have seen.)
The reason I am asking is that Estuansis did such a good job at describing the advanced graphics capabilities of crysis - such as particulates, motion blur, etc - in fact you also mentioned that you have been noticing a lot more interesting graphics with your 4870 compared to your 3870 - that I am very intrigued about being able to run crysis at full throttle, to see the wow factor that estuansis is talking about. Of course I'm talking new build for me.
And for the new build - I'm sure I'll get a 30" something - maybe one of Abuzar's oem displays, if he can still get them at that time.
So getting back to the tech report, I notice that they didn't even bother to try 2560x1600 at high and very high. (However I have seen some Youtube videos at 2560x1600 supposedly very high with 280SLI - again maybe XP and crysis patch - and the frames were running around 30-33.)
But on the tech report above, they DID get around 28-30 fps at very high, 1920x1200 with GTX280 SLIx3, also SLIx2, also GTX260 SLIx3 or 2 (how could a GTX260 SLIx2 pull 2 more fps than GTX280 SLIx2 - just the nature of how he was running the demo? - there isn't anything about the 260 that is better than the 280 is there?)
So it really didn't seem to matter if you had two GTX boards, or 3, you picked up at least 50% more fps. Same is true of 4870. With more than one you went from about 18 to from 23-25, about a 30-40% gain, and above 2 you didn't really see any increased gain.
In this case, the nvidia boards, in SLI, hit the critical 30fps, and the 4870 fell a little short - we know that crysis seems to favor nvidia for whatever reason (because nvidia cheats on the shadows! :P )
In any case, my question to you, how does 1920x1200 scale on your 2560x1600 monitor? Does it look good? Do you get the jaggies big-time, according to your very critical eye? Now that you have your x2, will you be running some crysis at 1920x1200 and letting us know how you feel about the results?
I know that you are still with xp, so you'll be using the hacked ultra patch I assume. I wonder if you'll hit 30 fps? (I think you said your mobo won't support another PCI 16x, so you won't be trying out the x2 and single 4870 = CF3 that they tried in the above graph - just as well because it didn't buy them any real performance gain.)
Just quite interested in how you will start feeling about crysis now that you are going to be turning up the effects! I wonder if you'll start becoming a big fan like estuansis. LOL
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22. August 2008 @ 22:13 |
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Sadly I can't get the monitors anymore :(
There goes another source of income.
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23. August 2008 @ 17:45 |
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Rich: Even more than that, Performance in DX9 with hacked very high settings is almost the same as high. DX10 loses you nothing. However, by the looks of things, the HD4870X2 only works properly in Vista, so I may have to start using DX10 anyway... In XP on all 'high' settings though, 2560x1600 is playable as long as you don't use AA, and Crysis' AA isn't very good anyway. One warning though, in the latter half of the game it will choke a little, though I'm not sure if my GPU or CPU is to blame for that yet.
1920x1200 scales badly on my 30", for rendering - i.e. games run at 1920x1200 may look fine, but when you use 2560x1600, you wouldn't believe how much better it looks. I tend to to run 1920x1200 in a 24" box in the middle of my screen, rather than expand it to full size. 1920x1080 for HD films, however, scales very well, and looks superb.
My mobo will support the HD4870 in the top slot, so I could crossfire three GPus, but my 520W PSU won't like that, so I'm not going to risk it.
As for Crysis, I still like it more than most, but it's not my favourite game.
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23. August 2008 @ 18:36 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
One warning though, in the latter half of the game it will choke a little, though I'm not sure if my GPU or CPU is to blame for that yet.
Sam, is that around the ice level? Many people claim that their performance slows to a crawl during that level, and according to people over at incrysis, the ice is really hard on the GPU...
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23. August 2008 @ 20:19 |
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Didn't they make the ice a lot more like 3D-models rather than just surfaces with pretty textures?
Maybe that's one of the things bothering performance, but I don't remember exactly.
I've played through Crysis, and while my computer's performance was basically 'crap' at 'Ultra Low',
I didn't notice much of extra crippling at specific settings/worlds.
It's just when the action got tense, which is logical.
But then the low settings would of course not take advantage of the heavier graphics.
It was still all pretty much playable too though.
But it helps that I'm a "pro" at crap performing games, I'm a 1337-lo-performance-gamer. XD
How sad...
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24. August 2008 @ 07:45 |
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Ray: Yes it is, I'm not sure where I'd put the point at though, because on my 3870 it became unplayable in 'Core' - but on my 4870X2 by that point it's still playable. It definitely is not silky smooth in 'Reckoning' though, so I'll have to investigate to see where the boundary is.
DInc: I remember being in that boat too - no matter what people say, playing games at decent frame rates just makes them so much more enjoyable.
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24. August 2008 @ 10:57 |
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Sam, do you have all the patches? I think there is a 1.1 and a 1.21 - both add some performance.
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24. August 2008 @ 10:59 |
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Yep, running 1.21.
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24. August 2008 @ 12:13 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
DInc: I remember being in that boat too - no matter what people say, playing games at decent frame rates just makes them so much more enjoyable.
I know that, I have no choice...
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24. August 2008 @ 12:15 |
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Just get an xbox 360 then lol. You can get one used for like a 150 bucks.
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24. August 2008 @ 12:20 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Just get an xbox 360 then lol. You can get one used for like a 150 bucks.
I'm not one of those players...
Besides I would just turn out like one of them headset crybabies.
With my reason not being able to use the stupid gamepads properly. XD
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24. August 2008 @ 12:29 |
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Ahaa, it's really fun playing Xbox 360 games. The graphics are amazing. Especially considering 150 dollars.
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24. August 2008 @ 12:32 |
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The graphics are of course, very lame compared to proper PC games, but they're better than you can achieve using older hardware, and cheap too, although you certainly won't find one as cheap as $150 where you live, or in the UK.
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24. August 2008 @ 12:33 |
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Dinc, you crack me up "how sad." I very much know what you mean. I agree - those game pads seem tricky to me - I'll stick to the PC. What graphics card are you running since you sent back your gecube? Which one did you finally get up there in the land of the dikes.
Sam, thanks for the info about the scaling to 1920x1200 - a 24" window in the middle of the screen - makes sense. Since boozer can't get the HPs anymore, which Dell are you recommending these days?
Abuzar, is that you, or is that a famous cricket player? You finally posted a bit of humanity like Shaff - but who is the mystery man? Doesn't look like any of the local rednecks, so I am guessing it might be none other than yours truly, boozer! :D
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24. August 2008 @ 12:35 |
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Dell 2407 or 2408WFP, superb monitors. I owned the former before getting my 3007. :P
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24. August 2008 @ 12:36 |
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lol
It's me! Pshhh, do you think any pro Cricket player is as sexy as this? hell no. Not untill I join that is.
Oh and I need to sell my spare Xbox 360 anyway.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 24. August 2008 @ 12:37
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24. August 2008 @ 12:37 |
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So your 3007 is better then, why are you recommending your former equipment?
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24. August 2008 @ 12:37 |
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Space xbox?
Rich: a) Did you not ask what the best 24" monitor is? Maybe I misread.
edit: yes you did. The 3008WFP then, hands down.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 24. August 2008 @ 12:39
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24. August 2008 @ 12:38 |
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lol
It's me! Pshhh, do you think any pro Cricket player is as sexy as this? hell no. Not untill I join that is.
Oh and I need to sell my spare Xbox 360 anyway.
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24. August 2008 @ 13:23 |
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Sorry Sam I should have said, which 30" Dell. Thanks.
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24. August 2008 @ 13:27 |
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Yeah the 3008 has the same awesome picture quality as the 3007WFP-HC, but has a hardware scaler, so it includes all the bells and whistles HDTVs have - i.e. Component, Composite, S-Video, VGA, HDMI and DisplayPort as well as the Dual Link DVI the 3007s have. It still includes the 4-port USB hub and dualslot card reader.
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24. August 2008 @ 14:34 |
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And you WANT that hardware scaler. Comes in handy.
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24. August 2008 @ 15:58 |
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Definitely, I wish I could hook the 360 up to my monitor - with the 3008 you can.
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