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DVD copy "on the fly" with Nero 6
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vietorisz
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16. October 2003 @ 00:32 |
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I used DVD shrink for more than 50 times now and I only have praises for it. I burned all my movies with Nero 5 and 6 from my hard disk. But when it comes to copy "on the fly" with Nero from one disc to the other it simply gets me a data DVD which is not playable in nothing. Although Pinnacle's Instant Copy does it perfect this software crashes my system every now and then. Anybody a good solution for Nero copy on the fly???
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16. October 2003 @ 03:09 |
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I think in Nero, copying on the fly has to be from an image file. However, i could be completely wrong since i have never personally done a copy on the fly DVD since it can end up being problematic.
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vietorisz
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16. October 2003 @ 04:18 |
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No no no! copying "on the fly" is exactly avoiding to use the hard disc but recording straight from another dvd-rom. I made my dvd movies using the DVD-VIDEO format in Nero 6. It might have something to do with that, I guess. anybody a clue?
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16. October 2003 @ 05:34 |
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I know what copying on the fly is, i dont do because the margin of error is very high with DVD's.
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koola
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16. October 2003 @ 06:58 |
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Copying on-the-fly is easy so long as you use AnyDVD and Nero 6. Using these two in combination will produce excellent results.
AnyDVD will instantly decrypt the DVD in your drive. Then let Nero burn!!
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16. October 2003 @ 08:36 |
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Of course its easy, the problem is that already people find that the quality fo the burnt image can be affected going from HDD to DVD, if you are going from DVD to DVD this can lead to more problems. One common problem is a restricted drive like a non-RPC1 Pioneer. It will only read at 2x sometimes, though generally its more with encrypted movies, and the writer burns at 4x. Basically it is safer to do HDD to DVD than on the fly - and it only takes an extra 8mins or so :-D
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vietorisz
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16. October 2003 @ 11:04 |
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I have the feeling that you don't fully understand my problem which is copying "on the fly" from one rom to the writer using Nero. Forget about ripping,its done!I did it with Pinnacle Instant with no quality loss is just that is crashing my system every now an then. So any ideas?
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16. October 2003 @ 11:07 |
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No, i do fully understand it, but you are relying heavily on your system resources when doing it this way. Could this be a reason why it crashes?? I dont know, but have you tried copying it to hard disc and then to DVD Writer and see if it still crashes? This all stems back to when CD Writers were first widely used and copying on the fly wasnt a good idea.
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koola
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16. October 2003 @ 11:12 |
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I don't think you fully understand the meaning of 0n-the-fly as it means to copy data straight from one drive and write it on another.
If you have already ripped the video files using other software, then this is not on-the-fly, it is a simple DVD>HD>DVD-R.
Your problems are probs due to your system proformance as Oriphus said in the previous post or multitasking while writing.
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vietorisz
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17. October 2003 @ 03:20 |
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Bullshit! I want to make a copy of the copy, do you get it? And not Nero is the one that crashes my system but Instant Copy from Pinnacle and only sometimes though I can make copies with it as long as I don't open any other application that needs the aspi layer, do you get it mister addict? I made a copy on the fly with Nero but it turned it into I guess a data format ISO bla bla which wasn't readable as DVD-Video. If you have no clues about things like that stop replying nonsense. Instant Copy's system automating reboot problem is known by the manufacturer and a solution is on the way but I want to know exactly how to make perfect dvd copies on the fly with Nero that's ALL!
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#afonic
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17. October 2003 @ 04:49 |
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I think Nero is not a good on-the-fly copier.
Although, I will not suggest copying DVDs on the fly, I have done it successfully with DiscJuggler which I think that is the best program to copy CDs and DVDs on the fly.
Remember that copying data DVDs on the fly is OK, but video DVDs make have problem if for example the buffer gets empty. I know BURN-Proof will do the job but the DVD may have problems.
Once again, don't use Nero for on-the-fly copies, it sucks.
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17. October 2003 @ 05:23 |
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Since it only takes about 5mins longer why are you getting obsessed with copying 'on-the-fly'. Just do it to your hard drive first and then to disc. It'll save a lot of hassl.....
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koola
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17. October 2003 @ 06:32 |
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Bla bla bla, what ever!
Just do as Oriphus said and there will be no probs!
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#afonic
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17. October 2003 @ 14:32 |
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Writing and deleting 5GB files at your hard disk all the time is not the best for it.
Anyway, anyone does what he thinks is best. If it works allright then it's not me that I'll tell me to do it the other way.
Personally I copy data DVDs on-the-fly and video DVDs by ripping the files to the HD first.
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baabaa
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18. October 2003 @ 01:53 |
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'and the hits just keep on coming'.....
When making ANY copy on the fly whether it is video or audio, the reader needs to be able to keep up with the writer to avoid any pauses or missed data transfers....
On the fly copying, especially dvd is very high speed transfer rates and therefore if you have a slow spec PC then ALL resources will be put into the process....
If you try and multitask then these resources will be dragged away and invoke problems......even something like having a screensaver on can cause problems......I have my power management set to turn off the monitor after ten minutes when not in use......
I do not use Nero at all cos I think it sucks, and I think this is a classic example of yet another Nero traite......
I think your process is not closing the disc off properly, I would assume that the burned disc on the fly does work in your PC.....
Have you got your reader and writer on different IDE ports, if not change them and see if this helps.....as data collisions a very common when using the same IDE.....
Again I just think it is down to Nero - being shite....
I use Recordnow Deluxe, reader/writer are on seperate IDE's and have NO problems copying on the fly whether it is data or PS2 game backup....
Your problem is down to Nero and I would recommend to change it.....
...............PIO is no go, DMA all the way...............
Beware of the Pixies - they move in over night and turn your life upside down
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18. October 2003 @ 02:52 |
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hi all
what i would do is make the copy from original, then make an .nrg image from it to keep! as to make a copy from a copy the 1st copy would get scratched and dusty where the image can be used again and again! from the HD.
thx...
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vietorisz
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18. October 2003 @ 04:12 |
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To everyone. I started this thread because I thaught someone had the same problem with Nero. I keep repeating that my system bears all the new features like burn-proof, overburn etc.etc and also I did copies on the fly with Instant CD/DVD it's just that it troubles me why Nero isn't capable of doing it right or what exactly I do wrong cause Nero is filling my discs when I copy and says at the end "copy succesful" but the result is not compatible although Nero itself recognises the video track and the TS folders and so on but iz simply unplayeble. What am I missing? And I don't agree with Nero sucking, it's fine I burned more than 50 movies from my hard drive wich I ripped with DVD Shrink and they're all perfect, so I want to use the copy on the fly function that's all cause I'm tired of testing new softwares. Actually Instant CD/DVD looks excellent just that for some reasons, some functions make my system reboot automatically.So anybody a working idea?
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#afonic
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18. October 2003 @ 13:33 |
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Nero doesn't suck, it is just not the best program for on-the-fly copies. I use it to burn DVD Shrink files and it works just fine.
I haven't used Instant CD/DVD, but try downloading a patch or newer version the problem might be solved.
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baabaa
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18. October 2003 @ 16:09 |
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That is what freedom of speech is all about, everyone is entitled to their own opinions.....
My opinion on Nero is that it sucks.....that is why I use the bug free/patch free/easy to use/step by step program called Recordnow DX.....not one issue with this ever......
Again only my opinion......
If I find something does not do what I intend it to do, I try every known setting and trial it.......if it still does not work, then I look at another program......
Regarding on the fly, there are no real settings to choose from except closing the disc off and not burning it as a multisession disc.....if that don't work, then there has to be a glitch in the program.........or your IDE setup maybe......
Just cos it works for others, does not automatically mean it works for you......
...............PIO is no go, DMA all the way...............
Beware of the Pixies - they move in over night and turn your life upside down
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18. October 2003 @ 17:40 |
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Yeah, that is strange that Veritas can put together such a great piece of software like Record Now, yet Nero seem to fuck up every edition of theirs and always have to update you with patches. Ah well...im happy with Record Now :-D
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18. October 2003 @ 22:53 |
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hi all
"Off topic"
Is there any news or reality to the rumour i heard that the new Nero v6 burns with linking in now to the drive it used to burn? hence it will only play from that drive????
"On topic"
I have used Nero for say 5 years of its versions at least now! i must have say burnt 2000 cdr's at least! not so many dvd-r's, i have had the odd coater but more down to media and user error than the program itself, so i suppose i will use it till it dies a death on me.
Now could it be that its more geared up for cdr based coping than dvd coping? ummm? could this be the issues poeple have with it? interesting food for thought.
but i do try not to get stuck and attached and if it ever plays the fool with me and lets me down then i will drop it like a hot potato...
and my next choice yes would be recordnowmax etc...
Thx all - freedom of speech - quite rightly put!
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koola
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18. October 2003 @ 23:50 |
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"off topic"
Nope, thats not true Rotary as I use the latest version of Nero 6 and I can play all of my DVD/CD's on any of my other drives with no problems.
Where did you hear this info?
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baabaa
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19. October 2003 @ 01:10 |
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Rotary, I have got a theory regarding Nero, but cannot obtain any suitable info to back it up.....
Check out the safety valve http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/52649
I am trying to pool alot of info together and find out what maybe the route cause of this.....
This is gettin a little off topic now......but if you put your thoughts down at the thread in the safety valve, maybe we can break the back of this big dog...
...............PIO is no go, DMA all the way...............
Beware of the Pixies - they move in over night and turn your life upside down
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19. October 2003 @ 05:19 |
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hi all,
Well to date Nero has been great for me! i use Nero v5.0.0.42 i have just downloaded v6 for a trial test... i will do the same things i have done with Nero v5 and see if v6 has any problems? it all seems odd that there seems to be alot of unhappy people with Nero? could it also be a factor that people are say new users and are getting the settings wrong on burn? what i am trying to say is it may not be Nero just user error? even down to eide connection it may prefer master drive status rather than slave? or even be on its own? who knows all i know is i burn mega cdr's fine! on real cheapo no name crap dics and work great, i've done only a couple of dvd-r's and also not just straight dvd to dvd-r i have done NTSC to PAL conversion added menus and mucked about about and they play on stand alones with Nero v5 of course. i think we must just keep an eye on it as it may be user error? as we cant be sat next to people who say they have problems, although thats not to say either that they have done something wrong?
or am i just lucky in setup of PC and standalone? as the stand alone used is called compacks (no name from safeways supermarket! £49) it plays cdr/svcd/Ritek 4x dvd-r/packard bell 1x dvd-rw/ntsc, not tried dvd+r or dvd+rw yet though!...
*stay tuned!*
Thx all
Nothing here to see, move along folks.
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19. October 2003 @ 08:25 |
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hi all
** Notes for nero **
In nero v5 i use the 2 addons! which are nero dvd plugin encoder and nero mpeg2 encoder now do other peoiple use these or not with there nero?
also are these needed for version v6?
are people useing an original nero package or a downloaded hacked or patched version? it may be like CDRWIN put a bad serial in and woopee shit currupt burns?
also i did not see the option for TAO in the new v6 nero? although i think its more audio cda format stuff music cds to stop start on each track burnt! but i think DAO is better? not sure with that? i burn music on nero v5 with DAO and all come out fine! i never use TAO!
I think TAO has an issue for better cdr burns on game discs!?! with securom and safedisc protection!?! another game all together! so lets move on!
Also to note that nero v6 has OVERBURN SET "ON" by default! could this be an issue as outer edge data causes problems on standalones (choppy video) ?
ok, all there is more food for thought for the pot to stir around abit!
i will investigate more! i am going to burn a dvd-rw film with the new nero and get back to you!
Thx...
EDIT:
notes from nero website!
DVD-Video Plug-in
Make your own blockbuster video and burn it on DVD
The DVD-Video Plug-in has all functionalities to store your memories for future generations on DVD-Video, (S)VCD and miniDVD. Be creative and share the result with your family and friends.
The DVD-Video Plug-in contains the following components:
MPEG-2/DVD De-/Encoder
MPEG-2/SVCD De-/Encoder
Dolby Digital (AC-3) 2.0 De-/Encoder
©2003 Copyright Ahead Software. All rights reserved.
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