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18. July 2007 @ 06:24 |
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Yeah, I'd recommend that. Do you use an Athlon64 X2? If so, you might have a Sempron heatsink. If after re-applying your PC shuts off I'd recommend buying a better heatsink.
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markus50
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18. July 2007 @ 06:35 |
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Naw, its just an Athlon 64. I'll reapply it tonight and let you all know how it goes. Thanks again for all the feedback.
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18. July 2007 @ 06:38 |
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OK. Keep us posted.
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markus50
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18. July 2007 @ 11:16 |
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I havent gotten a chance to reattach the heatsink yet, but ive been doing some reading on how to install it and I came across that some come with a thermal pad that has to be removed before applying compound and attaching. My heatsink came with a small square of some sort of white substance in a square on the contact. I DID NOT remove it before installing it. Could that be the problem?
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18. July 2007 @ 11:19 |
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Yup, that's exactly the problem. Whilst those things last pretty much forever, as soon as you remove the heatsink, they become useless and need to be removed.
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markus50
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18. July 2007 @ 17:35 |
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Well I removed all the gunk on the heatsink and cpu, applied a thin coat over the cpu of new thermal compound, and it lasted longer, but still overheating. When i tried installing some drivers(which i have yet to get a chance to do on the computer) it got up to about 75 degrees Celcius and then shut off. I think reapplying the heatsink certainly helped, but still not a functional computer.
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18. July 2007 @ 17:47 |
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you are still overheating so either the heatsink is not seated properly so have a partial air gap or the heatsink is too small for the cpu.
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markus50
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18. July 2007 @ 18:15 |
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ok then. So I guess its time for a new heatsink. Can you guys recommend one for me, cause at this point im so frustrated I no longer trust my instincts. My processor is a AMD Athlon 64 FX-62 2.80GHz Socket AM2 OEM Processor. If we can keep it under 100 that would be cool, but at this point I just want to get something that will get my computer functional.
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18. July 2007 @ 22:22 |
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not to split hairs here but some clip in heatsinks will fit other sockets, a 478 will fit a 754/939 socket, but anyway.
when you fitted the heatsink did you remove the plastic cover off the thermal pad before putting it on your cpu? only this might explain your heat issues because as crummy as a thermal pad is it should do better than you are describing.
i would say the tuniq tower 120 and thermalright ultra 120 extreme are about the best air collers you can get but the ultra 120 does not come with a fan so you would need to buy one of those too. both go for around £35 but im not 100% on where you live so...
only thing with both of these coolers is that they are big and you may not have enough room in your case to fit them.
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19. July 2007 @ 00:08 |
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Aha, now we know why it's overheating!
A cheapo thermaltake heatsink is definitely not sufficient to cool an FX-62.
If you have a reasonable sized case, you can go with a Thermalright Ultra 120 with a Scythe S-Flex case fan, very cool and very quiet!
If you don't want to spend so much, you can get A Zalman CNPS9700 or cheaper still, an Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro (I think they're AM2 compatible, I'll have to check)
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markus50
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19. July 2007 @ 07:14 |
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Alrighty guys, ill give it a try. Thanks soo much for the help. I'll order a new heatsink today and hopefully FINALLY get this thing going next week.
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19. July 2007 @ 07:27 |
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Best of luck, keep us posted.
Originally posted by sammorris:
Do you use an Athlon64 X2?
Originally posted by markus50:
Naw, its just an Athlon 64
Actually no, it is an X2, it's the best one, so good in fact it has the FX badge in place of X2. It's the equivalent to the current 5600+.
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19. July 2007 @ 08:08 |
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sam, that might explain the overheating problem if equivalent to a 5600+
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19. July 2007 @ 11:18 |
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Well precisely, and I wouldn't be surprised if they made tem more efficient since they were FXes.
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markus50
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24. July 2007 @ 09:09 |
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Well I got my Thermalright Ultra 120 and attached it with a Scythe S-Flex case fan. I had to remove the motherboard to install the pad that came with it under my cpu, then plugged everything back in, applied a thin coat of thermal compound to the surface the cpu, installed the heatsink aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand.....now it stays on for about a second and shuts down. All my fans are spinning. I hate my life.
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24. July 2007 @ 09:18 |
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Sounds like it isn't attached properly. If that happens there's no conduction between your CPU and the heatsink. You've checked to make sure it's making good contact?
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markus50
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24. July 2007 @ 10:10 |
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I think it is, all 4 mounting screws are in tightly. But just for shits and giggles, i tried putting in the old heatsink and the same thing is happening, so i must have done something that is preventing the connectivity.
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24. July 2007 @ 10:42 |
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You must have gone through a fair bit of thermal paste... :-(
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markus50
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24. July 2007 @ 10:53 |
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lol you could say that. But yea, I dunno whats up. Im gonna take it off again and check the back plate that goes under the motherboard, as that is the only thing that is different when I put the old heatsink in and it still didnt stay on.
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24. July 2007 @ 11:05 |
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If you couldn't get that heatsink to work, I wonder whether the problem is something else. Have you tried checking all the power connections in your PC?
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markus50
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24. July 2007 @ 12:46 |
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argh! Ok, I found that I had two jumpers mixed up so i switched them and now it stays on, but now I have no picture coming out! I connected my monitor to my laptop so I know it works, and when i try connecting the monitor to both the video card and the onboard video card on the motherboard, neither work. Ideas?
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24. July 2007 @ 12:52 |
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Then it's powered but it isn't booting. Try reseating all cards/memory, and replugging all power connections.
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markus50
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24. July 2007 @ 13:27 |
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yea, i'll try that right now. Wow, i really hope im not gonna need to replace the cpu and motherboard. When I was trying to install the heatsink, I probably applied and took of thermal compound like 10 times, is it possible i did some damage to it?
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markus50
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24. July 2007 @ 13:49 |
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I disconnected all the power cables and reconnected, took out the ram and video card, reinstalled, still same issue. Mobo aint booting.
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ddp
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24. July 2007 @ 15:55 |
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check that the cmos jumper is in default mode & not clear mode because pc won't post in clear mode.
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