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16. July 2007 @ 17:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello all (sammorris included since he'll probably be the first to answer.)

Since I am getting a Gecube x1950xt, I have decided to replace the stock TEC cooling (which sucks, according to reviews) with the Thermaltake CL-W0052 Tide Water All in One VGA Liquid Cooling module.

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16835116017

The only thing is firstly, will it fit the card? I think it will since reviewers have had it on their other ATi x19** cards, but I want to be sure.

Also, I need to know how many RAM moduels this card has. Since the card doesnt come with any ramsinks, I think I'll add these:

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16835116019

Since there is only 6 of them, I want to make sure I buy enough...

Anyone know how many ram moduels this card has? I have searched for a pic of the bare card without the gay TEC cooler, but cant find one.

All help is appreciated!!!

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16. July 2007 @ 23:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The X1950XT should have eight 64MB RAM chips, my X1900XT did, and since trhe X1950XT has the same amount and same type of memory, I reckon you'll need 8.
As for the cooler fitting, if it's PCI express 16x it will fit, AGP versions are a bit different, so get back to me if it's an AGP 8x model.

Whoops I appear to have been the first to reply to this post, oh well!



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17. July 2007 @ 03:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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The X1950XT should have eight 64MB RAM chips
This is a 256mb card (agp version), not 512 like the PCI-e version! :) So is that 6 64MB chips instead?


Yes, the card is a agp 8x (I dont want to go PCI-e yet.)

Does this mean it will fit?

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17. July 2007 @ 03:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The question is, can you only find one with the TEC cooling? That does indeed suck, but from what I can see, the Tide Water isn't exactly great either. It may be better at cooling, but the noise level sounds as severe at before. Would it not just be easier to find a version with the standard fan? I'm sure they made them.
The other reason I ask is that Thermaltake don't seem to tell people what it's compatible with. What about a Zalman VF900? That seems like it would work...



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17. July 2007 @ 12:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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What about a Zalman VF900? That seems like it would work...
I was really looking into that (and had decided that it would be my cooling choice) before I found the water cooling one, but I really like the thermaltake one...

I dont mind the noise that much (I watched the 3D Game man review, it wasnt super loud...).

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The question is, can you only find one with the TEC cooling?
Yes, I can only find one with the TEC cooling, nothing else...

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the Tide Water isn't exactly great either
Do you think this only because of the noise it makes?

Also, do you need to keep filling up the water cooling system with coolant?, or does it allways stay in there and not evaporate?

Thanks

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17. July 2007 @ 12:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, the noise would bug me, maybe not you, I note that it uses the same fan as the normal cooling system for high end radeons, known to be loud and annoying.
However, it's not that that concerns me. Water cooling coolant doesn't need to be topped up, but it needs replacing every, I dunno, maybe year or so because of impurities. The thing that really concerns me is that it's Thermaltake. Some of their power supplies may be alright (because theyr'e not actually made by Thermaltake) but a lot of the stuff Thermaltake is really tacky low-quality stuff. With water cooling, you really don't want that!



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17. July 2007 @ 14:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Can you suggest something for the VGA card that would be under 100 USD and is watercooling?

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17. July 2007 @ 14:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The only way I'd suggest watercooling a Graphics card, unless there's a Sapphire Toxic edition (In this case I don't think there is), is to hook it up to your own watercooling system, and do the lot. Does it have to be water cooled?

The awesome air cooler, Thermalright HR-03 will work, providing you follow these instructions:

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HR 03 on 1950



As you can see in the picture circled in white, the SMD on the back of the ATI 1950 Pro video card are taller, so when you install the backplate for the HR-03, there will be some contact. A way to go around this problem is to put a non-electrical conductive washer between the board and the screw twist knob as seen in the picture circled in orange.




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17. July 2007 @ 16:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, I looked at what you offered and since it is only a heatsink (w/ no fan, according to newegg, I didn't go with it.)

I just ordered everything and this is what I got for $366.67 USD

Gecube x1950xt 256mb agp videocard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814241049

Thermaltake CL-C0025 RAM Heatsink
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835116019

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007

Thermaltake Tide Water VGA Water Cooler CL-W005(couldnt get it from newegg, out of stock so I got it off ebay, brand new)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Thermaltake-Tide-Wat...VQQcmdZViewItem

What do you think about these? Could I have made better choices for under 368$?

I just hope the new watercooling VGA block will fit onto the GPU...

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18. July 2007 @ 00:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can use whichever 92mm fan you like, but guess what?
I use one and I don't even bother with a fan. I've turned all my case fans right down to 500rpm and can play games with no overheating issues. They're incredible!
Note that the HR-03 already comes with RAMsinks, and it'll probably cool better than the tide water.



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