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Nero falis again!!
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goido
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8. August 2007 @ 12:29 |
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Ok, I decrpted a movie with dvd fab I shrinked with dvd shrink 3.2 and I used Nero Express to burn the files out of my Hard drive. I ended up with a coaster which has become the norm with Nero. I have a brand new hp burner. Here is the log and I would appreciate any help!!!!
Windows 2000 5.0
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 7:35:34 PM
Nero Version: 6.6.0.18
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18e
(Nero Express)
Recorder: Version: EH23 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
CD-ROM: Version: GSG7 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: HA 1
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST340016A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 5T060H6 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HP DVD Writer 1040d atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : DVD-ROM DVD-1S16P atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
HP DVD Writer 1040d D: CDRom0
DVD-ROM DVD-1S16P E: CDRom1
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1535MB (1572336kB)
Free physical memory: 946MB (969612kB)
Memory in use : 38 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
8.8.2007
UDF/ISO compilation
12:58:03 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation started
12:58:03 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)
12:58:03 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6359
UDF document burn settings
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Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge
UDF Revision : 1.02
UDF Partition Type : physical
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE
12:58:03 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files sorted
12:58:04 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running
12:58:04 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer HP DVD Writer 1040d running
12:58:04 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
12:58:04 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
12:58:04 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
12:58:04 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2286111 (508:01.36, 4465MB)
12:58:04 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
12:58:04 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
Recorder: HP DVD Writer 1040d, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: CMC MAG, Media Type ID: M01, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 7
12:58:04 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
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12:58:04 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2286112 (2286112) = #2286112/508:1.37
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286112 blocks [HP DVD Writer 1040d]
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12:58:04 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
Prepare recorder [HP DVD Writer 1040d] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681957376, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2286112 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
12:58:04 PM #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started
12:58:04 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4122
Cache writing successful.
12:58:04 PM #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed
12:58:04 PM #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 6x (8,310 KB/s)
12:58:04 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2661
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
12:58:04 PM #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8892
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 7 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: CMC.MAG.
Media type ID: M01
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 07 43 4D 43 20 4D - 41 47 00 4D 30 31 00 38 ...CMC.MAG.M01.8
23 54 37 18 00 3E 6E 00 - 70 62 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 #T7..>n.pb......
01 19 1B 0B 0B 0E 0F 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
12:58:04 PM #22 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 659
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
12:59:11 PM #23 SCSI -1106 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1436
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x0BDC0000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x73
Sense Qual: 0x03
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x73 0x03
12:59:11 PM #24 CDR -1106 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
Power calibration error
12:59:11 PM #25 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion
12:59:11 PM #26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
conversion idle, stopping reader
12:59:11 PM #27 Phase 127 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Generating DVD high compatibility borders
12:59:11 PM #28 Phase 129 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Generating DVD borders completed successfully
12:59:11 PM #29 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process failed at 6x (8,310 KB/s)
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\CDR4_2K.SYS': Ver=5.3.2.31, size=58000 bytes, created 5/12/2006 10:20:34 AM
File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=5.3.2.31, size=23420 bytes, created 5/12/2006 10:20:34 AM
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.00.2195.6699, size=86672 bytes, created 6/19/2003 12:05:04 PM (Adapter driver for rec)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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8. August 2007 @ 13:05 |
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nasayin
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goido
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8. August 2007 @ 13:17 |
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Thanks Nasayin but Roxio? I have never installed Roxio as far as I know. The TDK brand is considered pretty good, I have burned numerous dvds until now. Should I try imgburn??
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8. August 2007 @ 13:26 |
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Run the Roxio Zap first. Then see if you can burn the dvd. If not go buy some Verbs or Taiyo Yudens. I have used TDK in the past and never has CMC MAG code like yours. That code is coming up on your log file.
See here why CMC are bad..
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/262544
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goido
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8. August 2007 @ 13:30 |
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Ok I checked my computer and I found that some version of Roxio comes with Windows media player?????????? I can not delete windows media player, right? I saw a folder in there, do I just delete it and then run the Roxio zapper??
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8. August 2007 @ 13:35 |
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Just run the Roxio Zapper
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goido
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13. August 2007 @ 10:22 |
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Ok, I runned Roxio Zap and Nero Showtime played the movie again ( All the sudden it would not play movies ) Encouraged with this I went to burn my movie again and I got this error log immediately!
Pleasse help!!!
Windows 2000 5.0
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 7:35:34 PM
Nero Version: 6.6.0.18
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18e
(Nero Express)
Recorder: Version: EH23 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
CD-ROM: Version: GSG7 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: HA 1
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST340016A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 5T060H6 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HP DVD Writer 1040d atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : DVD-ROM DVD-1S16P atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
HP DVD Writer 1040d D: CDRom0
DVD-ROM DVD-1S16P E: CDRom1
=======================
AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1535MB (1572336kB)
Free physical memory: 1123MB (1150908kB)
Memory in use : 26 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
13.8.2007
UDF/ISO compilation
11:14:28 AM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation started
11:14:28 AM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)
11:14:28 AM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6359
UDF document burn settings
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Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge
UDF Revision : 1.02
UDF Partition Type : physical
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE
11:14:28 AM #4 Phase 40 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1519
Aborted by user
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.00.2195.6699, size=86672 bytes, created 6/19/2003 12:05:04 PM (Adapter driver for rec)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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goido
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13. August 2007 @ 10:30 |
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Well, trying to see if it was my movie acting up I tried to burn data on the same recorder with the same media, different error.
Windows 2000 5.0
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 7:35:34 PM
Nero Version: 6.6.0.18
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18e
(Nero Express)
Recorder: Version: EH23 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
CD-ROM: Version: GSG7 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: HA 1
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST340016A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 5T060H6 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HP DVD Writer 1040d atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : DVD-ROM DVD-1S16P atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
HP DVD Writer 1040d D: CDRom0
DVD-ROM DVD-1S16P E: CDRom1
=======================
AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1535MB (1572336kB)
Free physical memory: 936MB (959484kB)
Memory in use : 38 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
13.8.2007
ISO compilation
11:23:37 AM #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6359
Iso document burn settings
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Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : FALSE
Multisession : TRUE
Multisession type: : Start multisession
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE
11:23:37 AM #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running
11:23:37 AM #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer HP DVD Writer 1040d running
11:23:37 AM #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
11:23:37 AM #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
11:23:38 AM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 817503 (181:40.03, 1596MB)
11:23:38 AM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
11:23:38 AM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
Recorder: HP DVD Writer 1040d, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: CMC MAG, Media Type ID: M01, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 7
11:23:38 AM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================
11:23:38 AM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 817504 (817504) = #817504/181:40.4
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 817504 blocks [HP DVD Writer 1040d]
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11:23:54 AM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
Prepare recorder [HP DVD Writer 1040d] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 1674248192, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
817504 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
11:23:54 AM #12 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started
11:23:54 AM #13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4122
Cache writing successful.
11:23:54 AM #14 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed
11:23:54 AM #15 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 6x (8,310 KB/s)
11:23:54 AM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2661
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
11:23:54 AM #17 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8892
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 7 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: CMC.MAG.
Media type ID: M01
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 07 43 4D 43 20 4D - 41 47 00 4D 30 31 00 38 ...CMC.MAG.M01.8
23 54 37 18 00 3E 6E 00 - 70 62 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 #T7..>n.pb......
01 19 1B 0B 0B 0E 0F 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
11:23:54 AM #18 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 659
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
11:24:59 AM #19 SCSI -1106 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1436
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x0BCA0000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x73
Sense Qual: 0x03
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x73 0x03
11:24:59 AM #20 CDR -1106 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
Power calibration error
11:24:59 AM #21 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion
11:24:59 AM #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
conversion idle, stopping reader
11:25:00 AM #23 Phase 127 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Generating DVD high compatibility borders
11:25:00 AM #24 Phase 129 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Generating DVD borders completed successfully
11:25:00 AM #25 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process failed at 6x (8,310 KB/s)
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.00.2195.6699, size=86672 bytes, created 6/19/2003 12:05:04 PM (Adapter driver for rec)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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goido
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13. August 2007 @ 10:40 |
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OOOOPS, I WAS CHECKING THINGS IN NERO AND IT SAYS ASPI IS NOT INSTALLED!!!!! DID I DO THAT WITH ROXIO ZAPPER? COULD I UDE THE NERO ASPI LISTED?????
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13. August 2007 @ 13:38 |
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13. August 2007 @ 13:38 |
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Gwendolin beat me to the punch. Thanks!
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goido
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13. August 2007 @ 15:18 |
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Hello guys!! First of all thank you very much for your help. Ok, I went to Nero info tool and picked the Nero ASPI since the system ASPI disappered, I tried burning and tatatata!!!!!!!!!!!!! I burned the movie and it played fine at least in the computer, I did not have time to play in any of the home dvds. So please help me understand.... I upgraded to Window media player 9 and it came with Roxio ( A small file 849 kb )and this small file killed Nero? When I run Roxio Zapper did it erased the ASPI because it was now linked to the Roxio file?? Should I still download and install the ASPI that Gwendolin suggested? Should I trash all of the tdks??
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