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Stand Alone method?
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nabster
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7. November 2003 @ 06:23 |
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Hey, firstly I?d like to apologize if this has been asked in the past. Ok, I?ve been backing up DVD?s for around 18 months. The method I use is first to decrypt the movie using DVDdecrypter. Next I use DVD2one to squeeze it down for a 4.7GB disc. Next I use copy2dvd. That?s it, its done. Well nearly. The movies play perfectly in any PC however have never been playable in stand alones. I thought it might be the media I?ve used, however, since I?ve tried a huge majority of the available discs out there I am stumped. They will start to play in a stand alone but when I skip it up through the chapters a lot of the time the standalone with come up with a message saying skipping defective disc area! Then it grinds to a halt. It is beyond annoying. So any feed back you guys could offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time.
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7. November 2003 @ 12:44 |
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Your Rip/Shrink method seems fine, perhaps a different burning app would make all the difference ? Try Nero, recordnow etc. Good luck.
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nabster
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7. November 2003 @ 15:09 |
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Hi, I've tired Copy2DVD and I've tried instant CD+DVD. Also tried DVD X Copy to back up a back up but still with them same results. I'll give Nero a try though as I've never tried it.Thanks for the feedback. Am close to giving up.
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RWG
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7. November 2003 @ 16:40 |
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Before you give up, try DVD Shrink (2.3 and/or 3.0beta) and Nero 6. There are guides listed on how to use both - PM ddlooping for assistance, his guides are great.
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WinXP Pro w/ SP2, DVD Shrink - DVD Decrypter - Nero 7.x - CloneDVD2 & AnyDVD - DVD Fab - RipIt4Me
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nabster
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8. November 2003 @ 07:07 |
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Thanks for the feedback RWG. Interesting enough my PC is of similar spec to yours. I?ve a AMD 2100XP, Asus A7V333 M?board, 512MB PC2700, Asus V8460TD GeForce 4 Ti4600 G?card, Western Digital 80Gig HHD, Pioneer A104 DVD-R/RW, Creative Audigy 2 s?card. Anyway, I tried backing up one of my copies using Nero 6 as suggested, it seems to play better but again skipped and locked up when I went up through the chapters. I?ll try a fresh DVD on Monday and use DVD Shrink method, see if that works. I'll post the results.
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koola
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8. November 2003 @ 07:48 |
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nabster
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8. November 2003 @ 08:31 |
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Thanks for the pointer Koola. I?ve just updated my ASPI drivers and firmware. Haven?t tried a disc yet. I?ll try one tomorrow probably, and let you know if there is any difference. I appreciate the help guys.
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nabster
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8. November 2003 @ 08:31 |
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Thanks for the pointer Koola. I?ve just updated my ASPI drivers and firmware. Haven?t tried a disc yet. I?ll try one tomorrow probably, and let you know if there is any difference. I appreciate the help guys.
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nabster
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9. November 2003 @ 04:24 |
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Well, I installed new ASPI drivers and new Firmware. Done a disc this morning and its till doing the same thing. My stand alone player I'm testing these discs on is a Ferguson.
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koola
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9. November 2003 @ 06:03 |
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I would try your DVD discs in other standalones to see if it is your media/technique or your standalone (Ferguson).
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RWG
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9. November 2003 @ 17:10 |
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Take your backups to a friends house or a store that sells DVD players and has them on display. I've never heard of Ferguson - but I've led a sheltered life. :-)
luck-
RWG
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nabster
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10. November 2003 @ 11:57 |
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Hey, good news. I tried one of my discs in a friends stand alone. It worked perfectly, ran it up through all the chapters and back down through them. Fast forwarded, rewineded, the works and couldn?t get it to skip or anything. I?m going to test it on a few other players before I can say without doubt that it was my player, but fingers crossed. I?ll post my results.
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Minion
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12. November 2003 @ 15:44 |
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I bet it is your DVD Player..It Probably just doesn"t like Burn"t media..My burnt DVD"s Have Played in every Player I have tried them in even SVCD"s and VCD"s Burnt to DVD work Fine...
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nabster
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12. November 2003 @ 15:51 |
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Yeah Minion, I'm hoping thats the case. I've handed out 4 movies to friends to try in their players and am just awaitin the feedback from them. Should get some results from them tomorrow so will post what happens.
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koola
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13. November 2003 @ 06:53 |
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When did you buy your standalone nabster?
Most of the early DVD players could not read burnt DVD media as the writer were not available then, could this be the case with yours?
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nabster
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13. November 2003 @ 08:43 |
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Hi, errrm not too sure if that is the case Koola. I brought it last Christmas. It doesn't outright refuse to play them, like I said it starts to play them but if you skip up through the chapters it grinds to a halt. Although I'm 95% sure it is just a case of the player not liking burnt media like Minion said. With the price of stand alones I'll get a new one as soon as I get the feedback from my test movies. I'll post as soon as I know.
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pdmj
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14. November 2003 @ 12:07 |
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nabster you try this progs. dvdshrink 3.05 beta to read and compress. make a folder on the c: not on you desktop to extract the vobs there. and to write clone-dvd with write existing data.and you have 100% perfect copy of any dvd movie with all the extras init. itis not your burner or player is the software you use.i use to
have the same problems.and to copy copys use blindwrite version-5....ps sometimes the dvdshrink maybe one every 30 orso dont shring enough to fit onto 4.7 dvd then you have to use nero 6 with fit onto disc tick to burned
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14. November 2003 @ 15:04 |
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It is most likey your standalone player. Check it out at www.dvdrhelp.com/dvdplayers.php
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 14. November 2003 @ 15:04
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nabster
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15. November 2003 @ 09:35 |
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Oriphus, the player didn't come up on the list but its looking more and more like it was just that. The more players I try them on the more they are working on. I've got 3 more discs out being tested by people and as soon as I hear from them I'll post the results. 99.9% sure its purely just my stand alone.
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koola
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15. November 2003 @ 12:05 |
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Buy another player nabster.
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nabster
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23. November 2003 @ 16:57 |
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Ok, all the discs are back. They have been played on everything from countless stand alones to consoles to other PC's and all worked. How unlucky am I to buy one of the only stand alones that doesn't like them. Cheers for the feedback though guys. Bye
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nabster
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27. November 2003 @ 12:31 |
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Hi, well ALL the discs have come back and it was without a shadow of a doubt my stand alone. A new one is on order. I have a x1 speed writer, it takes a good hour to copy a movie. I was thinking of buying a x4 writer, any of you guys got one? Just wondering if the speed increase is worth the extra money.
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Minion
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27. November 2003 @ 13:15 |
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Well of cource it is Worth it...Burning a DVD in 15-20 minutes is a Lot better than Waiting an hour..and there are sales on Dual Format 4X DVD Burners at Tiger Direct for $99 US...worth checking out at that Price....Cheers
P-4 2.6ghz (Overclocked to 3.2ghz)
Abit IS7
1gb Dual Chanell DDR 400mhz
Zalman CNPS7000-CU Cooler(Modded with 50cfm Fan)
XFX Gforce 6600GT 128mb GDDR3 (500/1000)
Pinnacle DV500 ADVC Editing Card
RaidMax Scorpio ATX Case + 5 Led
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drchips
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29. November 2003 @ 09:55 |
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Hi guys,
me's a NOOB to the forum but I have been using an A04 for a couple of years now and I would like to take this opportunity to share my experience with you lot.
First off:
All the Pioneers from the A04/104 upwards have a slit on the front panel that allows air to be drawn through the mechanism for improved cooling - unfortunately, this means that the laser optics become corrupted quicker than expected:
SOLUTION - 2 CLEAN cotton buds (Q-Tips), PURE alcohol (from local service centre) & extreme care.
First:
Open the drive: you will see the laser optics clearly.
1 - IF the drive mechanism is very dusty, blow it clean CAREFULLY.
2 - Using one Q-Tip with a SMALL amount of alcohol on the tip, VERY GENTLY wipe the laser optics clean (the laser is lightly spring mounted).
3 - Using the second clean Q-Tip, VERY GENTLY polish the laser optics.
4 - Repeat steps 2 & 3
5 - Close up the drive & re-install
Second:
The firmware of the A04/104 can be upgraded to support 2X writing & improved burn reliability, the file & instructions are available from pioneer on the web.
Third:
It is too easy to get a corrupt VIDEO_TS folder using some of the methods being promoted in the various forums about, for a foolproof burn cycle use Prassi PrimoDVD as it checks for complete DVD comliant VIDEO_TS structures and file structures within & will refuse to initiate the burn sequence if it is not perfect.
Fourth:
The Ferguson standalone: in the U.K. there have been 2 types, one had a PC DVD drive internally, this can be swapped out with ANY PC drive (as some of the older drives could not play a DVD-R without overheating - laser power fluctuated & heated the disc, expansion caused lockups).
General standalone:
Lots of them heat up the DVD-R disc too much (for same reason as above)
SOLUTION: fit internally over the ventilation holes a 40mm or 60mm fan from a PC CPU Heatsink wired to run at 5V when the unit is powered & oriented to blow OUT of the case (don't use 12V as it will be noisy).
Voila, discs don't overheat.
P.S. I am an engineer, so this is genuine experience.
PM me or post if any further clarification needed.
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nabster
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30. November 2003 @ 10:30 |
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Hi, well the new Pioneer 106 is on its way. I've got one stick of 512 PC2700, any1 reckon another stick of 512 would speed things up, I mean would it be worth the money to get another stick? Also got 100 Ritek discs on their way too, they are meant to be the most compatible, aren't they? Cheers for all the feedback.
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