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dragnandy
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20. September 2007 @ 21:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey i have a wireless netgear usb thing that works fine. but my dads going to be at work and theres a router and the wireless usb card thing is not strong enough to reach it. however, when we brought a laptop with built in wireless wifi it worked fine. so im wondering if theres a way to put a good wifi card or something in a pc or if anybody knows a desktop with the built in feature, besides the imac though. im kind of new at this
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21. September 2007 @ 07:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The simplest thing to do is to get a powerful antenna (at least +12dB) and attach it to the antenna port on a PCI wireless card.



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21. September 2007 @ 14:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks that response was helpful. what about a laptop that doesnt have built in wifi? i have an old laptop thats still functional but no built in wifi. do i get a pc card for it? and whats considered a powerful antenna for it?
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21. September 2007 @ 15:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For a laptop you need a PCMCIA card, the antenna thing still applies, decibel ratings in double figures are good.



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21. September 2007 @ 16:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi, although the antenna is a great idea, you will have greater reception getting a wireless Super G PCMCIA card as sammoris stated. I have used a number and they are great!! I could connect to my router from 50 metres down the street..............something like this one..

http://www.tp-link.com/products/product_des.asp?id=4

check ebay.......they have great deals

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21. September 2007 @ 17:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
does the brand matter? like the router im going to connect to is netgear, does that mean i need to get a netgear branded pc card? and does the Super G PMCIA card work with any branded router?

also, how can i tell if its compatible or fits into the laptop? the laptop im trying to get it for is kind of old. i know it has a slot for the pc cards but im not sure if its the same now.

and whats better?
54M Wireless LAN or 802.11 a/b/g Wireless LAN?

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ianski7
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21. September 2007 @ 18:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi, what is the age and specs of the laptop your planning to get. If it has 128mb of memory and a meager processor, you will have problems of dropped signals and overall bad reception. No the brand does not matter in most cases. Be sure and read and ask if possible the compatibility with other units. Usually it is stated in the description or specs. All super g is 108mbs........

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21. September 2007 @ 18:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi, I forgot to tell you that 802.11 a/b/c is a standard for wireless technologies. Concentrate on the data rates...54mbs, 108mbs....

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dragnandy
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21. September 2007 @ 19:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the laptop im trying to get this on is really old and i wouldnt be surprised if it had 128mb ram in it. so if its not going to help if i get a really good pcmcia card with a bad old laptop then maybe itd be best to just get a new one. update it
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21. September 2007 @ 21:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey, you dont necessarily have to get a new notebook, just a newer one, preferably with onboard wireless.........you will be happier in the end.

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21. September 2007 @ 21:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
onboard wireless?
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22. September 2007 @ 00:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, you know, a built in mini pci wireless adapter is standard on most notebooks. I currently use a gateway 450ROG that I bought off ebay and fixed and hopped up. It is 2000 model and it works great.
15 inch screen, cdrw, wireless, and I replaced the 1.3 pentuim M with a 1.7 2MB cache I have seen them on ebay for about 250 - 300us....cheers

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22. September 2007 @ 20:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks ianski. ive thought about it and might give the pcmcia card a try and thought if it wouldnt work out id jsut return it.

so ive been thinking, do you think http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156167
from newegg is a good one? my main priority for a pc card right now is the range it can get from a router.

also if i do get it on newegg, do you know their return policies? like if i opened and used it, can i still return it if im not satisfied with it?
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23. September 2007 @ 10:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey, the card that is in the link is not a super g. I try to stay away from the very cheap cards........you get what you pay for.
As for the return policy of newegg, check out the link and at the bottom of every item is the return info. If you need more info, do a search for 'return policy' on newegg.............later

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLis...ireless+adapter

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23. September 2007 @ 10:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
The simplest thing to do is to get a powerful antenna (at least +12dB) and attach it to the antenna port on a PCI wireless card.

what he said
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23. September 2007 @ 11:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey 1333t, yes that is a simple way that may solve the PC connectivity issue but I think dragnady now wants help with a laptop....lol it is a bit confusing :)

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dragnandy
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23. September 2007 @ 15:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yea kind of strayed off topic after i got some more questions. i changed it though and thanks to all your help. if i need more ill post some questions up
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28. September 2007 @ 23:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ive done some research for the desktop wireless pci. and i was thinking, would it work if i just used something like this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833315041

and then just upgraded the antenna to 10db? i dont have much cash now so im trying to aim low. also, if i do get this, how do i install it onto my computer/motherboard??

Originally posted by sammorris:
The simplest thing to do is to get a powerful antenna (at least +12dB) and attach it to the antenna port on a PCI wireless card.


if somebody can point me out to a 12db antenna thatd be great.

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29. September 2007 @ 08:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks, but how do i install the pci card onto my computer? like is there a slot on the motherboard for it for what?
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29. September 2007 @ 08:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yep, the long white slots in this photo are PCI slots:





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29. September 2007 @ 09:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wow you can put 5 at a time? lol thats crazy =P

and if i have an antenna on the pci card, its going to be inside the computer? i always that the antenna would like like sticking outside rather than inside.

also, do i need a software to install when i put in my pci card?

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29. September 2007 @ 09:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nope, you plug the card inside, but you plug the antenna into a port on the back of the card, in the same way you'd plug in headphones or a USB device.



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