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dragnandy
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9. December 2007 @ 13:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
for my old computer, im upgrading the pentium 4 1.6ghz to a 3.0 or 3.2 ghz processor. would my stock cpu fan be able to keep my new processor cool in atleast a temperature that would not destroy or burn the chip?? do i need a replacement or is it fine? id rather not get a new fan but if it needs it, then i guess i have no choice
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9. December 2007 @ 15:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The new processor will come with a heat sink and fan.

dragnandy
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9. December 2007 @ 19:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
would the 1.6ghz stock fan and heatsink be different from that of the 3.2ghz one?
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9. December 2007 @ 20:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My guess would be that they arent, but since the new cpu comes with one, I'd recommend using that one instead of the dusty one you have in there now.

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9. December 2007 @ 21:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
question about cpu, does the L2 size matter alot? because im not sure whether to get one with 512mb L2 cache, or 1mb L2 cache. would it make a big difference or be noticeable?
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9. December 2007 @ 21:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Go with the 1mb size. The cache on a cpu is ultra fast memory, and it does make a difference.

Are you getting the cpu for a gaming pc or an old one that isnt worth spending that much on?

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9. December 2007 @ 22:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Get the Northwood the Prescott runs way way hotter.I had both a 3.4ghz Northwood and 3.0ghz(hot-Prescott-hot)
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9. December 2007 @ 22:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Waymon3X6:
Go with the 1mb size. The cache on a cpu is ultra fast memory, and it does make a difference.

Are you getting the cpu for a gaming pc or an old one that isnt worth spending that much on?
an old pc.
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10. December 2007 @ 09:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Any 3.0Ghz P4 will put out far more heat than an old 1.6. You MUST use a new heatsink for that CPU.



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10. December 2007 @ 11:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I had a P4 and the only thing you should be concerned about is the fan, the heat sink can have enough surface area but enough air flow can seriously heat up the processor. My old case had 5 fans and was at 45C when gaming heats up to 65-72C. When i had only 3 fans i used to reach 76-79C so i suggest you get a few fans extra, should be enough.

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10. December 2007 @ 11:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
While airflow is important, your case must have been pretty terrible. You can cool a P4 sufficiently with only one case fan. Not that I would recommend doing that of course. Two 80mm fans and you should never see above 65C load.



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10. December 2007 @ 16:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Antec 900 would be a nice case...

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10. December 2007 @ 16:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Perhaps, all though everyone has one these days. Personally I think there are better cases out there, and kind of wish I had known that when I bought mine. Oh well.



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10. December 2007 @ 16:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
um...so 900 is ok and not the best...then which case you personally think very good

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10. December 2007 @ 17:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Antec P182, NZXT Lexa, Thermaltake Armor, a few suggestions.



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10. December 2007 @ 17:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Antec P182, NZXT Lexa, Thermaltake Armor, a few suggestions.

THE THREE I WAS GONNA SUGGEST! :D

and the TJ09 or the TJ07
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10. December 2007 @ 17:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah, they're pretty nice cases. Lian Li make some good stuff too, but it's not always top notch on the cooling front.



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10. December 2007 @ 17:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Any 3.0Ghz P4 will put out far more heat than an old 1.6. You MUST use a new heatsink for that CPU.
Agree,but i had a Zalman 9500 on both and the Prescott's still ran hot as hell.If you have the choice between the two get the Northwood.
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10. December 2007 @ 18:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The thermal conductivity of the die itself on a Prescott isn't great, so any heatsink will struggle to cool one well.



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10. December 2007 @ 19:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what is the average temperature a pc should be??

also, cant you just get any case, and put fans? or are cases just as important?
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10. December 2007 @ 20:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The case is important to a degree since it's not really about the number of fans, more their size and where they're placed, heck, even which brand of fan you use. Stock coolermaster ones are rubbish, yet the positioning and opportunity for coolermaster cases is excellent.



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10. December 2007 @ 22:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oh i forgot to ask, how do you check how hot your processor/pc is? and what temperature should it stay at?
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10. December 2007 @ 22:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dragnandy, what socket is the new cpu as old cpu socket is most likely 478? if new cpu is a prescott dye then make certain your bios can run prescott cpu's because if not then won't post.

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10. December 2007 @ 23:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the current cpu i have is socket 478, willamette, and im guessing thats the first generation of Pentium 4 processors.
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10. December 2007 @ 23:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
how high can your board goto in cpu speed? you won't be able to run a prescott dye cpu on that board.
 
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