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Burning Videos Onto DVD
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eric0668
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20. December 2007 @ 20:49 |
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I have Phillips+-RW DVD8701 and Samsung DVD-ROM SD-616E
I have had them for 2 years and don't think the burner is dual layer. Because I was, in the past, recommended to get one to fit more onto the dvd.
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20. December 2007 @ 22:39 |
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The Philips is a dual layer burner - +R DL. Here's the specs on it - link
If this came in a Dell pc - here's the latest firmware for it - DD26 A04
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21. December 2007 @ 13:13 |
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Just a hint for one of the issues(if it was already suggested and I missed it I appologize for repeating)
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Part one will play on my little, older Magnavox DVD player but it will NOT play on my nice Denon DVD in the living room. Might there be a reason for that?
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I am using Memorex 4.7 gb single layer dvd -R dvd's
It was said that the cheap players are not as picky as the upper class fancy brand fussy ones. Very true my Apex plays averything I throw at it, vs. my Sony that acted up with DVD-Rs. However, what I was trying to suggest was to use DVD+R instead of DVD-R and booktype them to DVD-ROM, if your burner supports that( mine didn't, I have a NEC, but I used modified firmware and I got it to booktype). With the DVDs booktyped to DVD-ROM, I have not had any playback issue on any players(mine, friends...etc). You were suggested to buy some other media, like Verbatim or TY. I would get the DVD+R format and booktype them to DVD-ROM.
P.S. I was looking through some threads and it looks like your Phillips supports booktyping, but I would double check.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/292236
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21. December 2007 @ 22:55 |
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Hey there cyprusrom
Long time no see!
I have the opposite :) The couple of Sony's I have pretty much play anything great - the portable Apex is just a bit picky.
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eric0668
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21. December 2007 @ 23:52 |
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Hey cyprusrom, thanks for your input. so i will "booktype" the, which some way converts dvd+r to minus r but it will be on a dvd+r dvd and therefor may play on the dvd player that it formally would not
do I have that correct
Well, seems like a lot of work. the problems would come when I woudl use the DVD Flix. When I would be able to use Nero, WHICH I HAVE WITHOUT A FLAW since binkie gave me the link to the updates (thanks again bink) I have no problem at all
But just for shits and giggles do I have the gist of booktyping down
and Binkie , no the drives did not come with the computer, I had to get them replaced during the warranty. But it is nice to know that they are dual layer.
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22. December 2007 @ 00:49 |
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binkie7,
Yes, long time no see...life gets in the way of fun! And I see you got the power now, keeping the new people straight!Congrats!
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some way converts dvd+r to minus r but it will be on a dvd+r dvd and therefor may play on the dvd player that it formally would not
do I have that correct
Partly...Booktyping does not convert the +R to -R, it converts to ROM, your player will kinda think that you put in an original, pressed DVD Quote:
When the booktype field (bitsetting) is changed to DVD-ROM then DVD players are fooled and will think the user has put in a DVD-ROM disc instead of a DVD+R disc and will read it accordingly. This results in an increased chance that the player is able to read the disc
I am not sure what you mean about troubles with DVD Flix.
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eric0668
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22. December 2007 @ 01:20 |
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Well that is quite alright for not understanding , in fact please accept my apology. I always give 100% but my mind races and the fact that I am not up to par with you all makes it worse.
1. So it is like converting it to -R, but actually ROM you say. Well, here I will show you I am not up to snuff. I thought that all -R and +R and any DVD I would use, short of RW is a ROM. And what does pressed mean "original pressed" you mean right from the factory when they are recorded? the ones we make are not pressed?
2. Well, what I was saying with the DVD Flix was that when I used that to transcode and used Nero to burn, the cheaper DVD Player would play it but the good Denon would not. When I used Nero for everything after Binkie gave me a site to get the updates, it all worked perfectly in Nero...the transcoding, the burning, and BOTH players played the DVD To be honest, since Nero is fixed I prefer to use Nero
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22. December 2007 @ 09:12 |
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@eric
:~)No need to appologize my friend! Most of the time I don't understand things because my "scanner" is too fast, I am too impatient! And sometimes I don't understand myself if I dont take a deep breath!
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1. So it is like converting it to -R, but actually ROM you say. I thought that all -R and +R and any DVD I would use, short of RW is a ROM. And what does pressed mean "original pressed" you mean right from the factory when they are recorded? the ones we make are not pressed?
ROM= read only memory.
+/- R are not read only, you can write on them. And by pressed, yes, I mean form the factory. The ones that we make are "burned", not pressed. The pressing and burning involves a diferent process. The pressed ones, are composed of several layers of molded polycarbonate plastic, an aluminum layer...The data is "pressed" onto those layers. Just do a google search.The burned DVD uses a layer of dye instead, an organic compound that can be modified by heat to store data. The laser heats the dye and burns it,(you can notice the difference in colour of the discs, before/after burn). That dye is degradable in time, so in case you were not aware, the burned DVD won't last as long as the originals, the life span is shorter(they say max.5 years);depends on the discs you buy, the burning process, storage conditions.... Some dont last even a year.
Anyway, it's all technical, and I am not a specialist! Just reproducing stuff here. I am just an aprentice trying to learn here on AD and other "sister" sites enough to play with my toys!
Glad you got Nero working and no more playback issues.
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eric0668
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22. December 2007 @ 10:41 |
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Ah thank you Cyprus. finally one where I don't have to ask anything back and can understand it all.
You are so nice. A lot of people say I apologize for things I shouldn't. I do have a fast mind. In fact that first sentence, I even understood that but last night I must have been in a not so rare revved up mood :) LOL When I read back what I wrote, "I thought -R [read/write -R] and +R [read/write +R], everything short of RW [read/write/re-write] was ROM. So I just said I thought Read AND write was READ ONLY. You get it. I was showing that I actually DID get it last night but my mind races
Thanks so much
I am gonna leave it alone for a day. When I get an email on my BB from Afterdawn, I cringe because I don't know how I'm gonna handle it.
You know when it isn't fun you gotta take a day or two off.
But I do enjoy the people. You are so understanding in the explanations AND so patient too
have a great holiday all.
Eric
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eric0668
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18. February 2008 @ 19:34 |
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I am having some more problems with this. I am really sorry, it is nothing to do with what you all have explained, or even probably what I have, just where I am in my life.
I may head to bed, I am not feeling that well, but it anyone willing to let me tell them what I want copied, the programs I have now and what I did and give me a little or a lot of instruction maybe thru PM's, or even in here if others don't mind.
So, if u are not able to, I understand, if so I may see you when I get up from a nap or tomorrow am
Thanks so much
Eric
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eric0668
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22. February 2008 @ 21:54 |
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I am posting back in here per your advice Binkie. thanks so much, yes I take everything so personal.
I don't even know if I should be posting--I got everything working. The point is, I don't know how or why or why I had to use multiple programs, and why 2 different mods, or any people for that matter, recommend doing it differently.
So as to not get confused, let me state that my main program I have and prefer to use is Nero (I see a bunch of Nero's under Programs) but I am told normally you use Startsmart or Nero Express. I was told a few days ago that I should have burned my image in Nero Express since I was getting that all to popular error missing Dolby 2 msg. Well I put it into Express as recommended and it had 3 filetypes it had to be, and it recommended none.
I have TYPE OF FILE: VIDEO CLIP so I put it in Dvd Flick, then it came out with an image, then I used ImageBurn. Worked great except it connected both episodes.
But the point is I don't even know what I am doing. I think I need to go back and read two links put in the closed thread
I don't know why some vids burn right away and why some need an image. Are they dictated by their extension?
I would like to simply take what file I had and put it into NeroStartSmart like I do every burned TV Program with my Tuner Card. Why doesn't that need an image first?
(* as an addendum, anyone see David Archuleta on Idol--The Guy Rocks INCREDIBLE *)
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eric0668
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4. April 2008 @ 18:03 |
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Binkie
Again, having help. Same topic so I did not start a new thread, right.
I am having a hard time with Nero. I just to to burn 5 vids I made with tuner card from American Idol of one person, go
David Archuleta, but some are Mpeg and some are flv. It did not burn flv, got an error, and I should have, right, but I converted the flv to avi and I still got the error. HOW COME. It said transcoding error. If I remember there were a couple of you, you advocated simply doing it all in Nero.
I did just make them all mpeg I will go see if it would work, but shouldn't it have worked as avi?
lemme know
thanks so much as always
Eric
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4. April 2008 @ 18:35 |
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Hi eric0668
Nero doesn't accept the flv format. I also think it may have a problem with flv converted to avi.
For those I would try DVDFlick. I'm not sure how good the quality would be though.
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eric0668
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4. April 2008 @ 22:56 |
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aahhh Binkie, I think I got it, or rather you tell me
so it does not work with flv , and it does not work with the avi, and for that matter, would it not work with flv converted to mpeg with the program FREEZ flv to avi mpeg. Because when I do that, it turns out ok on the pc, but the burned version is choppy to say the least (cannot even understand or tolerate) Is that consistent with what you were saying?
Just try to burn the flv with the DVD flick and if so, great, if not, np
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5. April 2008 @ 13:16 |
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I try and explain the best I can cause I'm not a total expert in this area but here goes :)
Yep Nero does not support flv. Now it does support avi - the catch here is what the original format the avi was converted from. Usually mpeg-2 to avi and there's probably a few other Nero usually handles well. Straight avi from say a web cam it also handles pretty well.
DVDFlick - I'm not sure if it handles flv - but it may handle the flv converted to avi. Quality though well will probably be iffy.
I don't convert flv to dvd - what I normally do is download YouTube videos - convert them w/ ImToo YouTube converter to avi to play on my Zen. Quality is not bad at all but then again it's a smaller screen :)
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eric0668
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5. April 2008 @ 21:24 |
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whoah with my comprehension level cause of my depression I cannot understand now, will have to digest then reread.
so you don't when you say convert your flv to dvd, you don't burn them onto dvd, you just make them able to be put onto your zen?
I will go with that until you get back, try to use dvdflick and get back
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6. April 2008 @ 00:14 |
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Yes I just convert them for my Zen - I download music videos to put on it. If I took those videos and converted them to a dvd compliant format I'm sure the quality wouldn't be all that great - one reason I don't.
Try DVDFlick w/ them - it may do a decent job.
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eric0668
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8. April 2008 @ 21:41 |
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Bink or Mod;
To continue, so if I got terrible DVD's using nero and I wanna try to use DVD Flix, I can try now with them all as is, mpeg. OR is there a way to change the ones from YouTube (flv?) BACK to flv? Or , like anything else, once you have lost quality ?? from the original, is it gonna be the same way when I convert it back to flv.
And back to an original question a month or so, I have tried one or two, but LIMITED ones where I can separate a portion out of an entire recording, i.e David A out of American Idol. Is there a total freeware one that will take as much in length out as you need.
thanks again. btw wish me luck, I start chemo I found out it metastocized sp?
Goodnight Bink or Mod
Eric
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9. April 2008 @ 22:21 |
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Good luck Eric - I hope all went well today.
Hmmm freeware to separate portions of the video. There probably is but on the occasions that I do edit - I just use Nero.
Just try using DVDFlick on tge flv already converted - see how it goes.
Now converting them back to flv I'm sure there is software that does it - but it's not something I've really had any need to try.
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eric0668
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9. April 2008 @ 23:43 |
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Bink, I converted the flv I have to mpeg and the quality is not good. I did not keep the original mpeg. Is there a way to tell which mpeg are actually converted ones. I can then keep the ones that were originally and still are mpeg, and then I can download new flv ? from YouTube and burn because I did burn once with dvd flicks and some did not turn out right and I am thinking they could be the converted ones
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10. April 2008 @ 22:49 |
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I think anything you download from sites like youtube and other video sites will have the same quality problem. Try to make the quality better - well I'm not really sure you can cause the native format is decent but not the greatest.
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eric0668
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12. April 2008 @ 20:15 |
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and no way to tell which ones I have converted, other than by guessing that the quality is a little worse??? Because it really doesn't get MUCH worse until burned
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13. April 2008 @ 00:06 |
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Well the file extensions are different so that's one way to tell.
The ones you download will have a file extension of say .flv, .avi - then ones you convert will be in a video_ts folder and contain files like .vob, .ifo.
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eric0668
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13. April 2008 @ 20:58 |
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No,Bink I used freez flv to MPEG and now they all have the same extension MPEG
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