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Building Tower For 1st Time, Please Help :)
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19. December 2007 @ 23:56 |
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Originally posted by cee43ja1:
the cpu should come with a heatsink/fan already. and most likely it will have a thermal pad on it. your choice if you want to use thermal compounds instead of the pad.
as for a psu, never go cheap on them. antec, corsair, thermaltake, seasonic, are the brands to look at.
Alright, for a minute i got mixed up, I didn't know a PSU was the Power Supply! LOL.. Now i know..
What would u recommend??
I found this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153058
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20. December 2007 @ 00:41 |
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The 6550 is better than the 4500, so get that if you can.
Either CPU comes with a heatsink already, so unless you're overclocking you won't need one. (You can even overclock quite well without, as long as you have a decent case).
For the PSU I recommend this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...Tpk=CMPSU-450VX
Far better than that Thermaltake.
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20. December 2007 @ 00:54 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
The 6550 is better than the 4500, so get that if you can.
Either CPU comes with a heatsink already, so unless you're overclocking you won't need one. (You can even overclock quite well without, as long as you have a decent case).
For the PSU I recommend this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...Tpk=CMPSU-450VX
Far better than that Thermaltake.
What do u mean by the 6550 is better then the 4500??
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20. December 2007 @ 01:16 |
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It's much faster and uses the same amount of power.
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20. December 2007 @ 01:33 |
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20. December 2007 @ 01:38 |
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You already have:
Hard Drive
CD/DVD Drive
Graphics card
yes?
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20. December 2007 @ 01:41 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
You already have:
Hard Drive
CD/DVD Drive
Graphics card
yes?
Yes sir i do,
Hey i have someone on another forum telling me i should get this processor.. *Sigh*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115029
i'll stick with what i already have picked out since its under my $400 mark.
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20. December 2007 @ 01:43 |
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The E6750 is a very fast CPU that overclocks like absolute magic (and will do with the components you've picked out too), but I didn't select it on the basis of budget. If you can stretch to it though, I highly recommend you do so.
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20. December 2007 @ 01:47 |
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I'll have to just wait and see if i can afford it down the road within a few weeks. But for being my 1st build i cant complain from what u helped me pick out already.. Because.. I'll be going from a ...
Intel Pentium 3 CPU
1133Hhz, 1.13Ghz
512Ram
Xp home service pack 2
........ To the NEW system i will build from u helpin me. lol
I really cant complain.. I'll have a MAJUR differnce overall everything... haha
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20. December 2007 @ 01:55 |
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Haha, well you've skipped the mediocre generation then! Athlon XPs and P4s were pretty lame for the most part. A core 2 duo will be an incredible upgrade from what you currently have.
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20. December 2007 @ 02:04 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Haha, well you've skipped the mediocre generation then! Athlon XPs and P4s were pretty lame for the most part. A core 2 duo will be an incredible upgrade from what you currently have.
yea i know im doing a HUGE skip, all i have to do now is SAVE my money!, lol...
I really can't wait to play COD4
One last thing maybe.. but for the nite yes!..
Once i get the items in the mail, Is there anything i need to know once i try to put everything together?? I mean im not that stupid when it comes to changing things out in the tower and what not but like installing the new processor n wut not..
Thanks alot for all ur help!
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20. December 2007 @ 02:06 |
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Check all the power cables are where they should be before you turn the system on, and don't touch any part of any circuit boards where there's actual circuitry (hold them by the edges).
if in doubt, ask here first.
VERY IMPORTANT : What graphics card will you be using in the new PC?
Old generation or budget model cards can NOT run COD4.
This includes the Radeon 9200 and GeForce FX5200, for example.
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20. December 2007 @ 02:09 |
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static electricity = real bad. discharge any before working, and wear latex gloves to prevent a buildup.
ps2: v7 scph-39001 - independence exploit - hdloader 0.8c - maxtor 300gb hdd
(+[__]%) psp slim ta-085v1: 6.60 PRO B10
wii (powered by bootmii/priiloader): 4.1u - d2x v10beta53-alt (base 56) - configurable usb loader v70r51/devolution r188 - wd scorpio black 7200rpm 320gig w/ ams venus ds2 enclosure
got a whole lot more to list . . .
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20. December 2007 @ 02:12 |
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whats funny is i still have static free things i used to wear on the bottom of my shoes and a static free jacket from my old job, i yet have to return them.. haha i'll wait after i get this system built first, lol
Well thanks for all ur help, i'll be building this once i get all the money and i'll probably be back here for more questions.
Bye..
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20. December 2007 @ 02:16 |
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Sure. best of luck!
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20. December 2007 @ 16:03 |
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don't wear the latex gloves. ground yourself to the case before placing components in the case. install motherboard, cpu, cpufan assembly, ram, videocard & psu then powerup system to see if posts correctly. then install the drives & repowerup to see if motherboard sees drives.
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21. December 2007 @ 01:23 |
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So far I have seen nothing leading you off the path. I just finished building a full tower with Intel Core 2 Quad using an Asus board.
When installing the chip and the cooler fan, go to the store like Fry's and pick up some silver paste, don't trust just the white stuff. I was warned not to trust the small wattage that you will be using, I went for above 600 watts. What you are using for a powersupply will stress and will probably burn out in 6 months. If you can, try to use the newer tube cables and stay away from the ribbon cables. The newer cables allow more air flow. A couple of extra fans installed would help. The black wire is the ground, red is hot. Fans are usually all 12 volt, and even old power supplies are sources to rob, if you can't afford the new pretty lit quiet ones.
Above all, like carpentry, measure twice and cut once. Do as the guy says, check it all over at least twice and then try to get it to post before proceeding.
The most important thing I did was sit down with the manual and the motherboard and a magnifying glass and inspect where every contact went before I installed anything.
I hope you are smart enough to be using XP pro and not Vista. I could go on, but the last piece of advice is to have a copy of Norton Antivirus ready to install. You are going to need to be hooked to the internet almost right away as Windows is installing.
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21. December 2007 @ 01:27 |
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i'll have to see abut the psu, but i will be using xp yes, And being contected to the internet is no problem since i use cable 7Mg. Thank u for your help and i will fallow everything u all tell me. I'll be back im sure to let u know how it goes. It won't be for acouple weeks yet though. Thanks bye for now
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21. December 2007 @ 01:39 |
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A relatively smart post on the whole tejasmed, except for the power supplies. Cheap high wattage units will destroy PCs more often than they will power them, and are incredibly unreliable, not to mention unsafe. I can't say the wattage figure is irrelevant, but the average gaming PC uses less than 200W from the power supply. Buy quality units, and above all, NEVER nick a PSU from an old pre-built system, it will almost always be inadequate.
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21. December 2007 @ 01:41 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
A relatively smart post on the whole tejasmed, except for the power supplies. Cheap high wattage units will destroy PCs more often than they will power them, and are incredibly unreliable, not to mention unsafe. I can't say the wattage figure is irrelevant, but the average gaming PC uses less than 200W from the power supply. Buy quality units, and above all, NEVER nick a PSU from an old pre-built system, it will almost always be inadequate.
so your pretty much saying what?? lol
Should i look for a 600W Psu??
I was maybe thinking about this one...
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...2071&CatId=1483
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21. December 2007 @ 01:44 |
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Nope. The vast majority of gaming PCs (including a large number of SLI and Crossfire rigs) will work off a decent 450W unit, but that's the thing, it must be decent. That means NO to 500, or even 700W units by terrible companies like Rosewill, AOpen, Bestec, Qtec, Magna, Kingmax and other such companies.
However, the following are units I'm happy to recommend using in most gaming PCs:
Corsair VX 450 / 550W
Corsair HX 520 / 620W
OCZ StealthXStream 600W
Thermaltake Toughpower
Avoid straying from that list. Since the 450W VX is probably going to be the cheapest of that list, that's what I'd recommend. It's still a very well built unit and can deliver ample power for most PCs.
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21. December 2007 @ 01:49 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Nope. The vast majority of gaming PCs (including a large number of SLI and Crossfire rigs) will work off a decent 450W unit, but that's the thing, it must be decent. That means NO to 500, or even 700W units by terrible companies like Rosewill, AOpen, Bestec, Qtec, Magna, Kingmax and other such companies.
However, the following are units I'm happy to recommend using in most gaming PCs:
Corsair VX 450 / 550W
Corsair HX 520 / 620W
OCZ StealthXStream 600W
Thermaltake Toughpower
Avoid straying from that list. Since the 450W VX is probably going to be the cheapest of that list, that's what I'd recommend. It's still a very well built unit and can deliver ample power for most PCs.
For right now then i'll stay with this one like u said in the 1st place...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003
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25. December 2007 @ 21:06 |
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Good point on the powersupplies. Never try to take an old power supply and use it with the newer boards. I will agree that some of the cheaper models of the newer type do not have the best of power regulation electronics and that could cause surges. I like all the suggestions of the brands. What I had to look for recently was the newer power supplies having all the extra SATA plugs. Really fell in love with SATA after I found out how fast and reliable they were. As far as hard drives, I have stayed with Maxtor and had the least trouble. They have been bought out by Seagate, but I do not think it will alter the quality control in the long run.
Since this is a do it yourself forum, I will make a general suggestion to learn a bit of patience when making a decision of how to put together a new system. These forums are a great learning tool when you scan through them. The first thing I do, is get a loose leaf binder and some file folders. I will begin a list of things that are needed to build a computer. Somewhere along the line, you have made a decision as to your ultimate end use of the dream computer. Josh wants a low price, but efficient gaming computer. I wanted a new faster unit that would handle my digital media and would not hurt me when I am forced to up grade Windows in a couple of years. Line out your priority first. Now, start doing your homework. Go into the internet and drool over all the cool new stuff. Print out the pages that have all the component lists. When you see a component you have no idea what it is, go in and do a search and learn about it. I took 3 days learning just what the new slots were used for and why isa and agp slots are going away. Sit down and begin making a list of the components you want in your dream machine. Take a few days and learn the different slots needed for the CPUS that are on the market. When you finally decide which CPU chip you want to use, go into the website of that company and to the company of the mother board you choose and find out what type of compatable memory DRAMM you need. Line them all out on paper.
Then piece by piece, go into the internet and do your shopping. I found my Corsair chips at a CA store that were a hundred less a pair than another national brand. Even the same Corsair chip pair was 80 bucks cheaper by just shopping several on line stores. Try to stay away from reburbished stuff, I have been burned on boards. Maybe some of the other guys can pick up on this thread and throw some more ideas in.
Regards and luck
Tejasmed
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25. December 2007 @ 22:35 |
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Most ULTRA PSUs are bad(some, like the 700W XVS Modular are good though lol). BTW NCIX has the Corsair VX-550 for 75 dollars. You might want that in favor of the 450.
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25. December 2007 @ 22:55 |
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Abuzar 1:
How do you like the Thermaltake Armor Tower? I bought two identical ones and love them. Sure made putting together a system easy and the fans are quiet. Hansome rigs with blue lights, neat. However, they need to do something about the connectors for the audio coming in from the top. Big trouble finding a way to hook up.
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