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help with wifi and ds lite + r4 query... help please
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card1435
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28. December 2007 @ 13:49 |
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1. the r4 menu where you can determine how bright you want the screen - this is on the top left of the touch screen - what is the green r icon for on the top right? if i push the right top button this icon goes red - why and for what purpose is this for?
2. I would like to get my ds connected to the internet via my belkin54g router i got this thru the carphone warehouse.. ive tried doing this myself but just cant get the ds connected thru the router - can someone please help me with this - i really see no point in buying the ninetendo usb wifi thingy simply because i have a wireless network already - also i am runing windows xp.
thanks for your help.
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tripplite
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5. January 2008 @ 12:57 |
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2. I would like to get my ds connected to the internet via my belkin54g router i got this thru the carphone warehouse.. ive tried doing this myself but just cant get the ds connected thru the router - can someone please help me with this - i really see no point in buying the ninetendo usb wifi thingy simply because i have a wireless network already - also i am runing windows xp.
thanks for your help.
make sure you enter you wep, wap or and other bit code your router requires, you need a password basically to enter your router, unless you've set it to open
also make sure your router is set to signal out to both b and g, see if it supports both first!
installing r4
http://portablevideogamer.com/2007/03/ho...he-nintendo-ds/
also braw check this
http://www.r4ds.com/product-en.htm#a3
and this
http://www.gba-nds.com/index.php?option=...id=89&Itemid=25
best of luck, post back, we dont bite....for the most part
-tripplite
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card1435
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5. January 2008 @ 16:16 |
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thanks for your input buddy - i appreciate this, ill try your suggestions sunday - ie 6th .
I will respond with eather positive or negative feedback, again thanks for your kind assistance.
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tripplite
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5. January 2008 @ 16:31 |
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what is the green r icon for on the top right? if i push the right top button this icon goes red - why and for what purpose is this for?
your answer
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At the right top of the touch screen it is the "Soft Reset"; Red indicator means the "Soft Reset¡± function is off; Green indicator means the ¡°Soft Reset¡± function is on. The users may point on the touch screen or press "R" button to switch the "Soft Reset" On/Off.
(i have heard of people screwing it up cause they hit it back and fourth constantly)
i can expand for you if you need
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negative feedback
i can't wait!!!
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card1435
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6. January 2008 @ 15:33 |
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i tried to get the wifi working but without any progress... im really at a loss for why it didnt happen. ive made sure the protocols where correct as you said, but it still doesnt work.. im quite confused about it all really....
Im kinda deflated at the moment - it should be easy to configure this, but for some reason it just is not happening.
Any ideas?
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tripplite
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6. January 2008 @ 15:35 |
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card i need specifics, tell me in detail where you go wrong, im sure we can help!!!
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card1435
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6. January 2008 @ 15:50 |
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ok ill have to make a list of the things ive been doing - ill do this perhaps by the next weekend - or maybe wednesday - im trying to set this up at my fianc'es gaff .
I did try tho - putting the "." after each hex decimal value for the wep password - that didnt work, then i tried going from 128 bit to 64 bit and still no joy - i did this simply because the input area for the wep password on the ds did not have enough input squares to put all 18 or so values - but alas this logical thinking was to no avail eather... "shrugs"
I visited the nintendo site and my router was listed there, so why it didnt work i have no idea - im using the same router now to access the internet and obviously to send this message.
Ill keep you posted - i do have messenger if an online chat is a way forward? - its just an idea....
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tripplite
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11. January 2008 @ 18:42 |
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card1435 WEP is case sensitive, make sure your typing in each number and letter word for word,
if possible disable your WEP key for a moment, try and see if your ds will connect through it then,
go to the computer were the router is installed on
open your internet bowser
and type 198.168.1.1 or 198.168.1.0
you maybe prompted for a password
now disable your wep
try to connect to your router now
Is you router operating with 3rd party software on a computer?(if so uninstall)
usually its just cable wire goes to modem, modem supplies innternet to
router and router send out signal,
http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/wfc/en_...alSetupHelp.jsp
it maybe you have the wrong settings set up with your ds
i suggest playing around with the settings on the connect page
this could also be your issue
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Each wireless router has an added security setting. This is the mac address. If this is on, then even if you enter the correct WEP passkey, you will still not be able to access the net. This setting will allow only your computer to access your wireless router, as no two mac addresses are same. So go to the webpage of your router and add the mac address of your psp or just disable this setting.--armykid22
you need help via aim send me pm wid da aim name:)
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MD80
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30. January 2008 @ 16:31 |
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well im havin troubles too [url=http://www.nintendowifi.com][/url]has answers there and im not sure the belkin router u mention is compatible ive got a netgear dg834v3 and i cant connct to that
Originally posted by card1435:
1. the r4 menu where you can determine how bright you want the screen - this is on the top left of the touch screen - what is the green r icon for on the top right? if i push the right top button this icon goes red - why and for what purpose is this for?
its for the quick reset function if uhold the top buttons and the x,y,b,a, buttons during gameplay or r4 menu it will turn off and turn on again as long as the r icon is green
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30. January 2008 @ 16:41 |
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Originally posted by card1435:
1. the r4 menu where you can determine how bright you want the screen - this is on the top left of the touch screen
You can press the left shoulder button to cycle through the brightness settings.
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snorlax22
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30. January 2008 @ 17:16 |
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MD-80: The DS only does WEP. It will not do WPA. make sure you are set correctly.
--Original spring-loaded R4 with 2GB Class 2 Kingston
--M3 Real with 8GB Class 6 A-Data (kickgaming.com kicks butt)
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tripplite
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30. January 2008 @ 19:46 |
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sry but ds does work with WPA
http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=37637
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Installation:
- Unpack the tarball.
- Copy the file "RFloader.bin" to the root directory of an otherwise blank media card.
- Load the card into your EZ-Loader and make sure that the "registered" LED flashes.
- Insert you EZ-Loader into your DS and hold the "PASS" button down while turning on the DS. Hold the button down until the DS powers itself down.
- Remove the EZ-Loader and restart your DS. The "WEP" selection on the WFC setup screen will now prompt you to enter your WPA key.
- Enjoy.
WARNING: DO NOT SWITCH OFF YOUR DS AT ANY TIME DURING THE LOAD. DO NOT RELEASE THE "PASS" BUTTON UNTIL THE DS POWERS DOWN ON ITS OWN. FAILURE TO OBSERVE EITHER OF THESE PRECAUTIONS WILL BRICK YOUR DS. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
Version History:
v 0.01: First release. Adds WPA functionality.
sry although this function does work the download link is not something easy to find, and i cant provide you with it as it voids the contract with Nintendo...im such a prud aren't I
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snorlax22
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31. January 2008 @ 13:40 |
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MD-80: The DS only does WEP.
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sry but ds does work with WPA
Allow me to rephrase: The DS only does WEP, unless you are willing to hack it with an .02 release of software not updated since 2005 that has a strong possibility to brick it and isn't even available on the original site (http://geekboy.ca/iblog_archive/C749271838/E401408637/index.html) anymore.
--Original spring-loaded R4 with 2GB Class 2 Kingston
--M3 Real with 8GB Class 6 A-Data (kickgaming.com kicks butt)
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31. January 2008 @ 13:57 |
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Originally posted by snorlax22:
Allow me to rephrase: The DS only does WEP, unless you are willing to hack it with an .02 release of software not updated since 2005 that has a strong possibility to brick it and isn't even available on the original site (http://geekboy.ca/iblog_archive/C749271838/E401408637/index.html) anymore.
I think that should help clear up most of the confusion.
Maybe the next version of the DS will be able to support WPA natively.
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snorlax22
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31. January 2008 @ 14:20 |
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I think that's what the whole USB dongle thing was about.
If you connect your DS through a router then the DS has to stay up to date on router protocol which it hasn't or it can't comunicate. Right now, you have to run WEP which isn't secure instead of WPA or WPA2, for example.
If you use the WiFi dongle, however, then you can run the network on whatever the latest security is (WPA5000 or whatever) and the network is secure, but you have this access point (the dongle) which (at this point and as far as I know) is only good for the DS and hasn't been hacked to be an entry point for anything else (it's a pretty low power entry point anyway). In theory the dongle is a good idea.
A DS with native WPA2 would be cool. Not that I really care if anyone sees my little Pokemon flying by in wireless space, however.
Edit: I should clarify to say the dongle is a "good idea" from the standpoint of then you don't have to update the DS device and you get to sell a bunch of USB dongles. From the standpoint of putting out a proper and robust consumer product one could argue it sucks.
--Original spring-loaded R4 with 2GB Class 2 Kingston
--M3 Real with 8GB Class 6 A-Data (kickgaming.com kicks butt)
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tripplite
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31. January 2008 @ 16:32 |
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although there have been nasty rumors spread it's safe to say that the WPA will work, many people have messed up with this
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DO NOT SWITCH OFF YOUR DS AT ANY TIME DURING THE LOAD. DO NOT RELEASE THE "PASS" BUTTON UNTIL THE DS POWERS DOWN ON ITS OWN. FAILURE TO OBSERVE EITHER OF THESE PRECAUTIONS WILL BRICK YOUR DS. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
if your download link is reliable (if it's on a forum with positive feedback ) and you follow the directions you'll be fine
btw: it's safer to change your router to a wep encryption, your computers will support it, and your ds:) even psp supports wep
yes wep is older so of course it's easier to break but don't be so paranoid you'll be fine
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snorlax22
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31. January 2008 @ 18:21 |
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btw: it's safer to change your router to a wep encryption, your computers will support it, and your ds:) even psp supports wep
yes wep is older so of course it's easier to break but don't be so paranoid you'll be fine
This is very bad advice and shows a lack of understanding of the issues. WEP is in no way secure. It would take a wardriver with a can antenna, a laptop, and tools downloadable from the Net 5 minutes to crack your WEP network. The DS simply adds to the wireless packets flying around and makes the cracking easier. Don't think that MAC filtering devices will help either.
For a secure home network, WPA or WPA 2 is the better way to go.
As for "it's safe to say that the WPA will work, many people have messed up with this" you would have a lot more credibility (any at all actually) in saying that if you would post a link to a working download instead of taking the "I could tell you but I'd have to kill you" approach.
No offense. Just saying. I'll wait.
--Original spring-loaded R4 with 2GB Class 2 Kingston
--M3 Real with 8GB Class 6 A-Data (kickgaming.com kicks butt)
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31. January 2008 @ 18:35 |
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If you're really paranoid, you can setup a 2nd wireless network at your house and use it just for your DS. Of course, you'd want your 2nd wireless on a separate subnet or VLAN so that it only has access to the Internet and not your other devices (computers, laptops, servers, etc...). It's probably overkill for most people, but at least if someone breaks the weak WEP protection on it, you don't have to worry about them getting access to your passwords, credit card info, or anything else while you surf the web from your computers.
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snorlax22
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1. February 2008 @ 00:59 |
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Originally posted by silk42:
If you're really paranoid, you can setup a 2nd wireless network at your house
Or you could just leave your one network on WPA and use the USB dongle, which is sort of the idea behind it, I suspect.
--Original spring-loaded R4 with 2GB Class 2 Kingston
--M3 Real with 8GB Class 6 A-Data (kickgaming.com kicks butt)
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1. February 2008 @ 10:32 |
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Originally posted by snorlax22:
Or you could just leave your one network on WPA and use the USB dongle, which is sort of the idea behind it, I suspect.
True. I haven't used the dongle before. If you go that route, can more than one DS use it? For example, if you have a few buddies over, can all of them connect using the dongle? I know an access point will work for this scenario, which is useful for me because I have 2 DS fats and 2 DS lites.
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snorlax22
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1. February 2008 @ 12:43 |
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Originally posted by silk42:
If you go that route, can more than one DS use it?
The desription of it says:
"Multiple Nintendo DS systems may be registered to the USB Connector and up to five (5) DS systems can enjoy online gameplay at the same time."
--Original spring-loaded R4 with 2GB Class 2 Kingston
--M3 Real with 8GB Class 6 A-Data (kickgaming.com kicks butt)
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tripplite
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1. February 2008 @ 18:45 |
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snorlax22- NO OFFENSE TAKEN BUT...the wired equivalent privacy (WEP) is easy to break yes!!BUT SO IS WPA with all the free tools, netstumbler, kismac, and aircrack both your wep and wpa and be robbed in under 10 minutes so please tell me how is wpa is safer (yes i know the breakdown of the code so....)??
+++ most of the time if you have an encrypted network people wont even try, they'll go for the unprotected one's,
a good protection is a nat fire wall which hids your SSID,and although any free app can see through it it still hides you from the naked eye
above all
THE BEST OFFENSE IS TO MONITOR YOU NETWORK, see whats going in and out!if you see something funky shut it down and generate a new key!!
http://delphi.about.com/od/fullcodeprojects/l/aa112903a.htm
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card1435
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2. February 2008 @ 05:27 |
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im sorry for not getting back to you guys recently - but again attempted to enter the wep key into my ds - but this time including "." between the digits (which as we all know was a silly idea anyway) and yes it didnt work due to the fact there was not enough spaces to enter all 18 or so hex numbers ... but atleast i know that wasnt gonna work anyway now lol
so yes it would seem im not alone with this hassle - does anyone use carphone warehouse for their internet?
has anyone actually got there carphone warehouse setup working with the ds?
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tripplite
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2. February 2008 @ 09:51 |
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card1435- just going to remind your wep are not case sensitive so don't fret when typing them in
carphone warehouse- is an ISP ehh no??
well what matters is your router and how its set up to send signal in both g and b
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snorlax22
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2. February 2008 @ 12:32 |
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Originally posted by tripplite:
both your wep and wpa and be robbed in under 10 minutes
This is FUD and simply not true. WEP is crackable. WPA and WPA2 are different ballgames. As long as strong passphrases are chosen, WPA is _much_ more secure than WEP. WPA is very susceptible to a brute force dictionary attack on initial handshake, but anybody who chooses plain dictionary words for their passphrases deserves to get hacked. WPA and WPA2 are more than adequate for most home networks.
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a good protection is a nat fire wall which hids your SSID,
Merely hiding your SSID isn't an effective security measure.
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well what matters is your router and how its set up to send signal in both g and b
The router sends what it sends. The signal protocol is backward compatible and this is absolutely nothing a regular person need pay attention to.
BTW, I'm still waiting for to see how the DS can run WPA....
Card- Your ISP shouldn't have anything to do with it. With SSID broadcast on and sitting next to the router, does the DS see the network?
--Original spring-loaded R4 with 2GB Class 2 Kingston
--M3 Real with 8GB Class 6 A-Data (kickgaming.com kicks butt)
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