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deciding on a cpu and video card
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dragnandy
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28. January 2008 @ 18:44 |
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im going to get a GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L motherboard. and im not sure which cpu to get. im not sure which is better, conroe or wolfdale. the wolfdale seems cheaper, has more L2 cache and has 45nm. im not sure what the 45nm is though, is it better than 65nm?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcom...9115029&bop=And
im not sure,out of those three, should i get. well its either the 2.66ghz conroe, or the 3.0ghz wolfdale, but im not sure whats the difference with the core name.
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28. January 2008 @ 21:45 |
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dragnandy
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30. January 2008 @ 20:03 |
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thanks the links did help. i also want to know, would i need a special board to use 45nm cpu? or would a motherboard that supports core 2 duo 65nm chips also work with 45nm?
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30. January 2008 @ 20:25 |
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Well im pretty shure the 3 cpu's you have there in the first link will work with 1 board if of course made for it because all the socket types are the same , i read that also in the link you gave with you first post.
And just a personal note id take the core 2 duo 3.0-GHz E8400 wolfdale and its has a bigger L2 cache
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dragnandy
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30. January 2008 @ 23:37 |
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why is the wolfdale cheper than the conroe though? isnt the wolfdale one newer?
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31. January 2008 @ 09:10 |
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Yes Yes Your right and honestly i dont reallt know but it all comes down to what your trying to do like games, video editing, etc. like if the only game you want to play requiers a 2.0 cpu then buy a 2.2 and be done ,you dont need a 3.0 but it would be nice ....so what im trying to say is build your computer around you and make it do what you want it to do. also a gameing rig will cost youi a bit more then normal because of all the demanding requierments,....kinda went off subject but just an overview iwas told long time ago and helped me out :)
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31. January 2008 @ 10:07 |
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The Wolfdale is the newer C2D, that is supposed to be able to overclock to 4Ghz easily. It has a newer and better architecture, and therefore should be faster than the others.
To tell you the truth, I have no idea why they price the E6850 higher than the E8400 as the E8400 is better. I think it may have to do with the size of the chip, as the E8400 is a 45nm chip and the E6850 is 65nm.
Usually the chip that is smaller will produce less heat...
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31. January 2008 @ 13:31 |
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well i dont know either but pick the best one for your dollar, and im running a AMD64 x2 2.60 GHz and it was factory 2.32 GHz and its running at a decent 29c to 32c ( O/C ) thats not bad considering what i put it through in the run of a day.
So are you a gammer or editor of some sort .......or do you just want a freakin nice rig ? lol
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31. January 2008 @ 13:34 |
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(just for fun) but notice the ad's that are in these post's ? lol
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31. January 2008 @ 13:40 |
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Yeah, I use the rig for both, video editing and gaming.
The rig is mostly for gaming though.
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31. January 2008 @ 13:46 |
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well i say go with the wolfdale i do a bit of bolth myself and thats what i would pick and nice mobo too nicely geard
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dragnandy
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31. January 2008 @ 19:58 |
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wolfdale it is! thanks guys!
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31. January 2008 @ 21:46 |
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No prob it's what we all do !
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dragnandy
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31. January 2008 @ 22:49 |
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well since i made this thread, im also wondering, about a video card. i know im getting a HD3850, but i dont know which manufacture to get. and anybody recommend a good HD3850 from newegg? they all are essentially the same right? except for the stock fan that comes with it?
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31. January 2008 @ 22:58 |
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Well man iknow anything Nvidia is going to be a nice card , and they have good driver support for there products ,
ATI is too expensive for what you get i find anyway but do reserch
i highly recomend NVIDIA !
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1. February 2008 @ 11:48 |
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^I don't. ATi products dont cost a lot anyways, the 3870 is around $250, with the 8800GT around $270.
Besides, if you get a 3850, you have a more future proof card as DX10.1 is almost right around the corner, as well as shader 4.1.
I kinda feel bad for the people that all bought 8800GTs, and now they'll have to upgrade to a newer card when DX10.1 comes out if they want AA to work in Vista.
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ATI is too expensive for what you get i find anyway but do research
DX10.1, shader 4.1, GDDR4, PCI-e 2.0, and a card that doesn't cheat in games to get better frame rates.
EDIT: To answer your question, go for a brand like Sapphire, HIS or ASUS.
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1. February 2008 @ 16:23 |
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Well you make a good point Waymon3X6 i cant mess with that, but i get better help for my nvidia and less problems then my computer with the ATI card in it , and Nvidia is "The way its ment to be played" ....bit of humor ,lol
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dragnandy
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3. February 2008 @ 23:37 |
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i also noticed that theres an HD 3870. Do you guys think that its worth it to spend around 30 USD more for an upgrade from 3850 to 3870? is there a big difference between the two?
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4. February 2008 @ 00:03 |
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i also noticed that theres an HD 3870. Do you guys think that its worth it to spend around 30 USD more for an upgrade from 3850 to 3870? is there a big difference between the two?
100% yes. The 3870 is better than the 3850.
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dragnandy
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5. February 2008 @ 00:30 |
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just wondering though, what is the difference between those two? they both are 512mb and such. i googled the benchmarks between them and it seems like the 3870 is better than the 3850, but im not sure if its a 30USD difference. also, is it possible to overclock the 3850, making it better than an unclocked 3870? ill have a 550W psu also.
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5. February 2008 @ 10:00 |
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The 3870 is more powerful than the 3850 just because it is... Not sure exactly why. Probably the architecture/higher clock speeds. Why is the 8800GTX faster than the 8600?
I dont think you would be able to clock a 3850 to be faster than a 3870 without doing a volt mod, and you wont be able to go that high with the small cooler on the 3850.
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dragnandy
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6. February 2008 @ 01:31 |
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alright thanks. how much more of an increase can i get in clockspeed if i overclock a card?
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6. February 2008 @ 12:55 |
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Not much. Overclocking may only add about 5fps onto games with 100MHz added. Probably with a stock cooler, I would say about an extra 50Mhz on the Core and maybe 80-100Mhz on the vram max.
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6. February 2008 @ 18:33 |
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Typically the stock cooler doesn't affect how far you can overclock unless you're voltmodding, which I do not recommend. How far you can overclock a 3800 is more down to luck of the draw, but since a 3850 is pretty much an underclocked 3870, you should fare well with it.
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dragnandy
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6. February 2008 @ 18:44 |
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well if it wont do much, i think ill stick to overclocking the cpu rather than the video card.
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