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8. February 2008 @ 09:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I found a Online shop that sells component extremely cheap, well if you compare to other online stores.

I'll be getting a 24" or even a 26" monitor, 1920x1200 resolution. so would 8800GT or HD3870 good enough?

which RAM should i get(^^ they are so so cheap!)

G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR800
http://www.landmarkpc.co.za/store/gskill...r800-p-363.html

or

Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX - XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR800
http://www.landmarkpc.co.za/store/corsai...r800-p-371.html

or

Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4 - XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR800
http://www.landmarkpc.co.za/store/corsai...800-p-1318.html

or

Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR800
http://www.landmarkpc.co.za/store/crucia...r800-p-344.html

I really like the G.Skill 4Gb kit, if i get one know and another one later i would have 8GB of RAM, but would Windows support it?

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8. February 2008 @ 09:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nope, 32-bit windows will only read up to 3.5GB.
So far, the only game I can't max at 1920x1200 on my HD3870 is Crysis, and if I set shadows and shaders to low, I can max the rest of the settings. You won't be able to use AA at that resolution for Crysis (but you will for everything else) as the game uses lots of texture memory.
As for the RAM, go with
http://www.landmarkpc.co.za/store/corsai...00-p-1318.html?



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8. February 2008 @ 09:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Corsair XMS is better than XMS2 with heatsinks? The one that you reccommend is cheap, so i should be able to buy another 2Gb which makes it 4GB.

can you please tell me how many GB of ram does
-Windows 32-bits and 64-bits support?
-Windows Vista 32-bits and 64-bits support?

and which Vista is best for gaming?

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8. February 2008 @ 10:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The XMS2 does actually come with a heatsink, the whole bit that you see with the XMS logo on it is a heatspreader, the Dominator style heatsink is just a bit more obvious!
Windows 32 bit will support 3.5GB max. Windows 64-bit can theoretically support as much RAM as you like, but performance gains drop off after 4GB, and realistically you shouldn't use more than 8GB.
It's worth bearing in mind that even while running COD4 and Crysis at the same time, I can't fill 4GB of memory usage.
Always go with a 32-bit OS for playing games, there are big driver issues with 64-bit versions.
Windows XP is generally a better OS for games, you don't get DX10, but that's not enough of a disadvantage to counteract how much better it runs, plus DX10 can't render anti-aliasing.



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8. February 2008 @ 10:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes i know XP 32-bit is better for gaming but, what if i have 4GB of ram? It doesn't support it. I do photoshop, and you know that PS use a lot of ram, and i need it, or should i stay with 2GB for now, and wait for improvement on Vista.

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8. February 2008 @ 10:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It supports nearly 4GB of RAM.. :)
I've had no issues related to the amount of memory in my system, not with proper graphics drivers anyway.
If I were you, stick with XP Pro and use 4GBs.



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8. February 2008 @ 10:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
but it won't use all 4GB, but hell, rather have more than enough, than have less and need it...so you use 4GB of ram?

and you say that you can max out all games with HD3870 on 1920x1200 resolution except crysis, won't the fps be low?

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I do indeed use 4GB.
I run Call of Duty 4 at 2560x1600 and the game pretty much never drops below 30fps. Given that 1920x1200 is barely more than half the pixels - you're looking at at least 50fps with an HD3870.



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8. February 2008 @ 11:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so this is what my rig will hopefully look like next week.

Next Week:
-ASUS Maximus Formula or ASUS Blitz Formula (WHICH ONE!)
-MSI 8600GTS 256MB
-Intel Pentium Dual Core E2160
-2GB DDR2 800 A-DATA value ram
-Thermaltake ToughPower 700w
-Thermalright Ultra 120 heatsink
-Zalmen ZM-F3 120mm fan

Maybe next week:
-Acer 24"/26" monitor
-Razor Lachesis 3G mouse 4000dpi
-Razor Tarantula/Lycosa gaming keyboard

Later this year:
-Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4 - XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800
-Sapphire HD3870 512MB OR HD3870X2
-Antec Nine Hundred gaming case unless Twelve hundred is out!
-2x 500GB harddrive

which hdd company is better?

SEX
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Own: Computer, PS2, PS3, PSP and Asus UX32VD i5 Ultrabook

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8. February 2008 @ 12:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
get a cheaper x38 and better GPU

oh and id opt for the blitz. it give extra lanes to the second PCie16x to make it an 8x and 16x when xfireing



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8. February 2008 @ 12:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what do you mean by
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it give extra lanes to the second PCie16x to make it an 8x and 16x when xfireing
all ASUS X38 are expensive...or i should say X38 chipset is expensive

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8. February 2008 @ 13:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by GTR35:
what do you mean by
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it give extra lanes to the second PCie16x to make it an 8x and 16x when xfireing
all ASUS X38 are expensive...or i should say X38 chipset is expensive
the blitz formula is p35 chipset. and it is the TOPest p35 mobo you can find.

normally p35 runs xfire in 16 and 4 pcie lanes

but this board runs themin 16 and 8 pcie lanes



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8. February 2008 @ 13:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When I said don'g to nuts on the graphics card, I didn't mean it that badly. Get a proper GPU to start with and save by getting a cheaper motherboard.



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8. February 2008 @ 14:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I thought Blitz Formula has 2x PCI-E 2.0 X16?

@sam
Lol, yeah i know that, which chipset should i get then? X38 supports 2x PCI-E 2.0 x16, and bit faster. P35 only supports 1x PCI-E 2.0 x16 and 1x PCI-E 2.0 x4/x8?

Should i go for the latest chipset and the cheapest X38 chipset, that support 2x PCI-E 2.0 x16(ASUS P5E) OR kinda old P35 chipset that supports PCI-E 1.0 x16(P35-DS3R)
Gigabyte will save me quite a lot of cash but old tech, ASUS will save a little cash but better and faster?

SEX
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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 8. February 2008 @ 16:07

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Well you'll need the DS3P if you want two PCIe16x slots, not the DS3R...




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8. February 2008 @ 23:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
to save money DS3R is the choice but the only thing is that it doesn't have PCI-e 2.0. I'll have to check the prices for X38-DS4 and X38-DX5, if they are too expensive then i'll get ASUS P5E...

Ok back to topic, it seems that 3-Way Sli is having issues with Crysis:
http://www.tomsgames.com/us/2008/02/08/crysis_3waysli/

and guess what guys, you can mix HD3870 and HD3850 together, and it performs nearly as good as HD3870 CF:
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option...d=5641&Itemid=1

imagine HD3870 X2 and HD3870/HD3850 CF will do, it should be interesting, but i don't think it's worth it, anywho mix cards is new not even Nvidia can do it. Will this be the new generation of Mix CF or even SLI if thats possible?

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Now Ive got your attention please read my post above
Own: Computer, PS2, PS3, PSP and Asus UX32VD i5 Ultrabook

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 9. February 2008 @ 02:16

 
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