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Mac OSx on a built PC?
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algore
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20. March 2008 @ 12:04 |
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My buddy wants to buy a Mac Pro. I'm trying to convince him to let me build him a better computer at less than half the price. If a PC is built with the Xeon processors, will it run OSx? I mean, for real, not the Hackintosh. I don't want to get into the OS debate, but this means that he is really willing to spend over 3 grand to not learn windows. Thanks a lot.
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varnull
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20. March 2008 @ 12:13 |
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Don't waste your time and his money.. just install linux. (os-x is only proprietary bsd/unix anyway dressed up for apple hardware)
mac os-x doesn't run well (if at all) on intel chipsets because it is built for very specific apple hardware. AMD kit is even worse.. close to 0% success rate.. Very few people have managed to get it to run successfully, even after hacking it to the point it can no longer be considered os-x
It can't be considered a viable full time OS for a machine.. I hear reports of no network cards and no sound drivers working at all. As you can't re-compile a kernel with the right modules for the hardware that leaves the situation of loading them afterwards as standalone modules and is fraught with difficulties.. usually because other core parts of the OS will still only use the kernel modules. As they are closed source (it is copyright proprietary software after all) there really isn't much you can do about it either.
If your friend likes the "look and feel" of os-x there are many open source alternatives which are very similar. Dreamlinux looks almost identical, right down to the ipod loader ;)
I hope that at least goes part way to explaining why this is a flawed plan from more than just a "it won't work" position.
If he wants to buy a Mac then let him.. they are excellent machines with well built applications. Excelent professionally integrated hardware and software has been Apples trademark for a very very very long time. They sell into their market of professionals and people who want things to work without question. I always found using the office mac to be a joy compared to the more powerful intel P90/windows3.1 machine that was always getting screwed up in some way or other. How times haven't changed since '94.....
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algore
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20. March 2008 @ 12:25 |
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Thanks. I forgot about Linux. I might can talk him into that.
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20. March 2008 @ 12:59 |
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Yeah agreed, Linux will work on standard PC hardware and once you know what you're doing, there's pretty much nothng it can't do.
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algore
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20. March 2008 @ 13:15 |
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What do y'all think about just getting him a OSx skin? He's not exactly tech savvy.
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20. March 2008 @ 13:22 |
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lol well that's purely down to you, whether he'd accept that. I'm not exactly sure you could pull the wool over his eyes and sneak XP on there.
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algore
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20. March 2008 @ 13:35 |
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ha, i just meant maybe he doesn't really car which he uses, he may just be familiar with the looks. i haven't seen a skin that good yet.
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20. March 2008 @ 13:43 |
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I think StyleXP's Panther Scheme is supposed to be quite good...
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27. March 2008 @ 18:07 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
I think StyleXP's Panther Scheme is supposed to be quite good...
Yea, I use that skin, it is really good. It doesn't give you the complete feel of OSX though, its just like a normal windows skin. Use ObjectDock for the dock things in OSX.
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27. March 2008 @ 18:15 |
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Last time I used stardock software, it ruined my XP install so badly I had to reformat. It was a relatively new install of XP too. Things may have improved since, but still... risky.
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algore
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27. March 2008 @ 18:21 |
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thanks everybody for responding. i tried the stylexp and it ended up giving me the blue screen. its all no good really, just buy the program you want. im done. if he wants it, he can buy a mac. sorry for the bad words.
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27. March 2008 @ 18:24 |
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That's fair enough, I never had that issue with StyleXP, but there you go, problems can happen. You'd be well advised to remove a certain word from that post though, we have young members here too.
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27. March 2008 @ 18:28 |
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Forget about it all***
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Little more "young people friendly"
lol.
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27. March 2008 @ 20:08 |
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I used to have Mac OSX on my computer. Worked perfectly, in fact the performance was much better than "real" Macs. If you want I can tell you what parts to buy to get a real install working perfectly.
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29. March 2008 @ 08:43 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Last time I used stardock software, it ruined my XP install so badly I had to reformat. It was a relatively new install of XP too. Things may have improved since, but still... risky.
I've used Objectdock for the last few years and never had any problems with it. Tried Rocketdock on my new system and it looked good, but I couldn't find where to add more than one toolbar as I like one on the top three sides. Truthfully I think anything can cause a conflict in the right environment.
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tuttie
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29. March 2008 @ 16:57 |
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BUGGGGGGIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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varnull
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29. March 2008 @ 17:35 |
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At least they are honest about the success rate.. 2-5% with fully working applications on AMD boards.
AMD 64 dual core success rate is currently 0%. everybody who claimed to have it working have now found that it doesn't survive more than a couple of reboots :lol:
You really can't go selling a hacked unstable experimental os to somebody and not expect some really harsh words WHEN.. not IF it messes up. There are plenty of advisories about running mac drivers/modules on the wrong hardware if people can be bothered to look for them. Blowing the graphics cards seems to be pretty high up on the risk list.
I'm answering the OP more than the rest of you lot here.. be cautious.. this is very experimental software. I killed a very expensive sparc64 bit cpu years ago experimenting with mac-os. Only plus was it was my hardware so I kept my teeth.
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29. March 2008 @ 17:49 |
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I knew it was unreliable, but I never realised it was that bad. Thanks a lot for the info, varnull, you've been an asset to this thread.
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29. March 2008 @ 22:10 |
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Well, You can run Mac OSX on your PC, but it would involve you downloading a mac osx for pc torrent(wich can be extremely long, mabey about 3 days) and not being able to get updates. and when your windows guy like me and start using it for a couple of days you'll realize that you should have never wasted your time downloading it
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30. March 2008 @ 00:53 |
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You do get updates, but I agree on the software being crap.
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