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d4nnyboy
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23. March 2008 @ 10:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi all, my pc knowledge is very limited so im wondering if anyone can help? :)

which video card is best:

ATI Radeon 9200 SE (RV280), 128mb

or

NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200, 128mb

im gunna sell one of them i just want to keep the best one for me (naturally)

any help will be appriectiated :)
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23. March 2008 @ 13:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think they're about the same...

I would sell both and buy a new card - seeing that you're using AGP a 6800 or 7600 is way better than those.

d4nnyboy
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23. March 2008 @ 14:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i very well may do that!
there not bad i can run a fair amount of high demanding games on them,

if i sold them both how much dya think il get for them?
might aswell upgrade, iv rescently upgraded my processor and memory, might as well go for the hat trick.
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23. March 2008 @ 18:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'd say around 25 bucks for the ATi card, and around 15-20 for the nVidia just by looking at the prices for one on ebay.

d4nnyboy
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23. March 2008 @ 20:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks for your wisdom, i was origanally going to use one and sell the other, but i think il get a good graphics card and sell them both,

i might aswell get one more question in!

games for pc are getting very advanced so im gunna need a kick-ass graphics card, would i need a graphics card with 512mb of memory minimum?(im talking about memory built in on the card) with my 128mb's i ran games like doom3, far cry and the GTA's, but games like rainbow six vegas and GTA4 (when it eventually comes out on pc)i would imagine they will require phenominal processing power!
what graphics card would you recomend?
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23. March 2008 @ 21:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well yeah, 512mb is the standard minimum you should have if you want to play the latest games like Crysis. However, the best cards that are out are for the newer PCI-e platfom (well not really new, but newer than AGP). They are better performers and cost less than AGP cards. However, you would need a PCI-e motherboard to run one of those cards.

What is your budget for a new card?

d4nnyboy
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23. March 2008 @ 22:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
around £100 ($200)
my motherboards phisical info:
3 pci
1 agp
1 amr

cant really afford to replace mother board if i dont have the nesscessary slots!

just so you've got an inclin to what i could get, heres my basic pc spec:

CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (hyperthread)
MEMORY: 1280mb DDR SD Ram (only 3 ram slots)
GRAPHICS CARD: hope you could fill this one in ;)

basically im after the best possible graphics card to go with my pc spec, (my memory can be upgraded, ram is fairly cheap)
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23. March 2008 @ 22:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would recommend this but its outa stock on newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133176

Also, 128mb of ram is way to little. I would recommend at least a gig for games today. What kind of motherboard do you have?

A gig of ram is very cheap.

d4nnyboy
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23. March 2008 @ 23:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1280!!! mb of ram, not 128!, in my ddr sdram slots i have two 512's and one 256,

with the help of everest, heres my motherboard:

Field Value
Motherboard Properties
Motherboard ID 62-P120-001368-00101111-040201-SiS$P4S61120_P4S61 BIOS P1.20
Motherboard Name ASRock P4S61

Front Side Bus Properties
Bus Type Intel NetBurst
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 200 MHz (QDR)
Effective Clock 800 MHz
Bandwidth 6400 MB/s

Memory Bus Properties
Bus Type DDR SDRAM
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 133 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 267 MHz
Bandwidth 2133 MB/s

Chipset Bus Properties
Bus Type SiS MuTIOL
Bus Width 16-bit

Motherboard Physical Info
CPU Sockets/Slots 1 Socket 478
Expansion Slots 3 PCI, 1 AGP, 1 AMR
RAM Slots 3 DDR DIMM
Integrated Devices Audio, Video, LAN
Form Factor Micro ATX
Motherboard Size 210 mm x 240 mm
Motherboard Chipset SiS661FX
Extra Features Hybrid Booster

Motherboard Manufacturer
Company Name ASRock Inc.
Product Information http://www.asrock.com/product/index.htm
BIOS Download http://www.asrock.com/support/index_BIOS.htm
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23. March 2008 @ 23:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh sorry bout that! lol

Anyways, I would still recommend the 7600 I posted earlier.

d4nnyboy
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23. March 2008 @ 23:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
just had a look on ebay, the graphics card spec you recomended is there, but only in pci-e not agp....
ah well, il have to check out my local pc shop see what they have,

well thanks to you i know roughly what to get :)
thanks very much

.....just checked your profile, you have an awsome pc!!! if i had the money for one of those beast's id get one, but sadly my girlfriend would see different to me lol

thanks again
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24. March 2008 @ 10:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Haha, thanks for the compliment, and unfortunately I had to save up my cash for quite some time before I could afford it.

Do you live in the US or UK - just so I know which stores to look for the product.

d4nnyboy
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24. March 2008 @ 16:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
from the uk,
theres a local pc shop called hexel, its very good im sure they will have summat for me :)
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24. March 2008 @ 16:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well then I'm sure that that place will have a PCI-e 7600.

If they don't, two great sites to buy products from are

http://www.scan.co.uk/

http://www.aria.co.uk/

Another helper on this forum buys stuff from there all the time so I can assure you it's legit.

d4nnyboy
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24. March 2008 @ 17:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks for them links, i will certainly have a look,

iv been looking for graphics cards and something has come to my attention!

would the performance of a graphics card be reduced if the onboard memory type on the card is different to the memory type on the motherboard?

eg.....512mb DDR2 on card - 512mb DDR SDRAM on motherboard?
or will the graphics card not even be compatible at all?

oh and while im here....whats the difference between PCI and PCI-E,
are they the same or different interfaces?

you have your work cut out with me...lol, but im a fast learner so your wisdom WILL stick ;)
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24. March 2008 @ 21:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, well for your first question about the memory - no, they can be different. My 3870s have GDDR4 and the ram I am using in my motherboard is DDR2 - DDR4 isn't even out yet and DDR3 is just starting to become popular (although I costs a lot of money).

The difference between PCI and PCI-e (PCI express) are that basically, PCI-e is only for video cards. Regular PCI slots (usualy white slots on the motherboard) can be used for many different types of cards - like wireless cards, sound cards etc. Although you can get a video card for a regular PCI slot, they are really outdated and people only use them for a backup or if they want duel monitor support.

PCI-e come in different speeds, 1x, 16x and 2.0. 2.0 is currently the newest and is double the bandwith of a 16x slot - although cards today dont even use all of the bandwith of a 16x slot.

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d4nnyboy
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25. March 2008 @ 12:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i see, well thanks very much for your advice and knowledge:)

i shall be busy shopping for a nice new graphics card,

take it easy, thanks again
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